New EcoTech Marine Vectra Return Pump

[gcarroll]

Thanks , as a fanboy I have to try my best :lol:. Though I must admit... it wasn't easy for me to keep this under wraps. I like to talk.

The pump you showed is not related to the pump that is being released, other than the fact that it shows just how long Ecotech Marine has been researching return pumps.

 

[tkeracer619]

The pump you showed is not related to the pump that is being released, other than the fact that it shows just how long Ecotech Marine has been researching return pumps.

Beyond show and tell that is the reason I posted it, if I wasn't clear enough in my post then I am sorry. I can only assume they learned from it and moved on. I'm a manufacturing engineer that works in R&D. I understand what it takes to produce something good and that you work in iterations to get a final product, it just doesn't happen out of the gate unless you are extremely lucky or choose to go the cheap and risky route of having your customers do the testing. From manufacture date of the TiTech to the release date of the Vectra I would be willing to bet everything has changed at least once if not many times over.

 

[d2mini]

I wonder how big they are planning on going?
I need something twice that powerful!
10,500 l/hr is about 2700 g/hr

 

[ca1ore]

Intriguing if the QD controller enables the same range of functions for this as it does for the vortech. Not all that useful as a return pump perhaps, but very interesting as a closed loop.

 

[sbarkey]

Perhaps they will release multiple models with more capability!

 

[joshky]

Talk about good timing, will be keeping my eye on these.

 

[tkeracer619]

For my next tank I would love a submersible water cooled pump twice that size. Would definitely save on heating costs!

 

[Chris155hp]

Wonder what's the dimensions

 

[Klaus Jansen]

This AC Pump look like as the same how a *Messner TitanTech* with different colors ? Messner is a seriosly and good factory located in germany....

best regards .. Klaus

 

[ksed]

Yup. I doubt that's what they are currently using though.

http://www.messner-pumpen.de/katalog/en/index.html#/16

 

[gcarroll]

This AC Pump look like as the same how a *Messner TitanTech* with different colors ? Messner is a seriosly and good factory located in germany....

best regards .. Klaus

Those Germans know their engineering. That's interesting info Klaus. Please tell us more about these and where we can get them.

 

[scuzy]

170watts thats a lot of power usage

 

[tkeracer619]

Not really a lot of power considering it's design and how it performs. All things the same it costs x amount of energy to move y amount of water. It is a ratio of pressure vs flow. You have to find a balance. Some of the pumps out today claiming to be more efficient may have better impellers but many of them simply have very low head pressure capabilities.

Thanks for posting that klaus! Great to know they are working with a high end German company even if it was for research. The new pump looks very similar and Messner does make dc motors.

Nobody who owns an aquarium company is going to wind their own motor blocks, it simply isn't feasible unless they decide to sell them across a broad range of markets. Since Ecotech does salt only afaik they wouldn't be doing us any service by making their own, that would cost a fortune!

Something I find interesting is the name of that pump is Eco-Tec2. Do you know how old they are? Wonder if there was a partnership there to come up with that pump. The specs on the Titech pumps do not match the specs on the Messner product list though they are similar, I suspect they aren't simply off the shelf, especially since they aren't black. It definitely looks better in Ecotech colors

I don't see anything that says it is saltwater safe, so I wonder if there are any changes regarding salt vs the standard pumps. Looks like it would cost a lot of cash to get one here in the states. Since the dollar is strong right now it wouldn't be too bad maybe $500+. Just a few years ago I bet you were looking at $900+ usd landed for this bad boy before any modifications. I'm not surprised at all. I expected them to be expensive. Sure is a great starting point

 

[oseymour]

How often would you adjust the flow rate of your return pump?

I thought it would be a cool concept and it changed the water level in my sump - could've cause my ATO to go haywire.

 

[fishresponse]

Sign me up for one. I'm assuming my Jebao will fail at some point. This will give me an excuse to finally get a nice backup without spending money on a red dragon.

 

[nuxx]

Sign me up for one. I'm assuming my Jebao will fail at some point. This will give me an excuse to finally get a nice backup without spending money on a red dragon.

Might be surprised...

Had mine running nearly 2 years and just had a power supply go out. $30 bucks later and 4 days it was back online.

Also that's why I run two return pumps...

 

[scuzy]

It cheaper to get a mean well PS to replace the shitty one from jebao

 

[slief]

How often would you adjust the flow rate of your return pump?

I thought it would be a cool concept and it changed the water level in my sump - could've cause my ATO to go haywire.

It would also cause your skimmer to go haywire if you run an internal one. No real reason to adjust the flow rate of a return pump once you have it dialed in. Also no reason to adjust your sump level once it's set and your skimmer is dialed.

 

[jonkyo]

I could possibly change out my return pump for an EcoTech one for sure. But, it would have to offer me something above what is currently out there.

Oh, and did anyone else notice the similarities to the BLdC pump that RB reviewed in March. Look at the images. Looks to be the same mold to me. Just a different power supply and then the QD control module.

 

[Chris155hp]

I was thinking the same thing I was eying the bldc but I think I'm going to hold off and see what this one offers