New gigantea from LA
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ThRoewer
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Damn! I was hoping it was the other way around and I finally had a way to get my annoying cleaner shrimp taken care off. :headwally:
CoralsAddiction
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Actually in smaller tanks chances of an invertebrate such as shrimp or snail getting eaten by a carpet anemone are significantly larger than in a bigger tank. Also depends on the level of the tank your gig settles in. Closer to the bottom means higher chance of eating shrimp and snails. Most shrimps and stuff scavenge the bottom. That's why Haddonis are so successful at taking them down. They settle on the bottom and prey on inverts. With gigs, they could settle in on mid/top level of the tank and don't bother anything. Catch the shrimp and take it to LFS for store credit or get RO/DI water for it. Shrimps are stupid and easy to catch.
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ThRoewer
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I was thinking of placing it on the bottom.
Now I'm a bit worried about my pipefish, mandarins, gobies and of course all my other shrimp and crabs.
That's why I originally wanted a crispa. But my stupid little percula ignored it and insisted on a gig ... :headwally:
Nah, these evil shrimp go to prison for their crimes: they will spend the rest of their lives in the sump and produce live food for my corals while living of foot scraps :uzi:
ThRoewer
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The last time one of these gangsters wanted to scavenge on my mini carpet it almost got stuck. Now they are a bit more careful and only steal food from the LPS and the fish - they literally chase the fish away when I try to feed them, especially the mandarins and gobies. Even the peppermint shrimp that were before always out for feedings stay now hidden and only come out at night.
These cleaner shrimps are the biggest bullies I ever had, and I had some mean clowns and damsels before.
OrionN
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My cleaner shrimp pair were the same, until they got eaten by my Harlequin Tusk.
CoralsAddiction
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You mean crimes like taking out food from anemone's mouth, ripping apart nori sheets and harassing healthy fish in an effort to clean them? LOL Yeah, I get it. It's annoying.
ThRoewer
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They are just bullies now and don't even try to clean anymore - they just chase everyone away to get their food. They even chase and harass my blue stenopus and when I added those they tore off one of the female's pinchers. A few days ago I saw them going after my sexy shrimp pair and those could only save themselves by hopping into their anemone. :angryfire:
As for the gig - it decided to take a walk and ended up leaving the dish. Now it sits on the tank bottom under the rim of the dish... Arrrg!
ThRoewer
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The gig left the dish and is now sitting mostly on the glass but also still a little on the outside of the dish which makes it now too risky to remove it. So I will leave it in the HT for now - not that I had a good place to put it right now anyway.
The good news is that it clearly started coloring up now. Some patches of tentacles show a clearly brown coloring and many other show hints of light brown color. If it goes at this rate it may be colored up again in about two to three weeks.
The mouth is now also round and closed.
I would say the treatment worked well with the modifications I made (bio filter & skimmer)
20.04.2015 Tank set up new with primed powerhead filter and water from main tank
21.04.2015 Anemone arrived and placed in tank 1. Cipro dose
22.04.2015 60% water change 2. Cipro dose
23.04.2015 100% water change - Tank transfer 3. Cipro dose
24.04.2015 60% water change 4. Cipro dose
25.04.2015 60% water change 5. Cipro dose
26.04.2015 no water change 6. Cipro dose
27.04.2015 60% water change 7. Cipro dose
28.04.2015 no water change
29.04.2015 no water change
30.04.2015 no water change
I always dosed late at night to let give the cipro a minimum of 8 hours without light.
I dissolved the cipro tablet in a small water bottle with some RO water by letting it soak while I changed the tank water. Before pouring it into the tank I shook the bottle vigorously to completely dissolve the tablet. I feel this way you don't get the particulates that you get by dissolving it between your fingers in the tank.
I usually left the skimmer running full force during the day and at a reduced strength during the night. To my observation it didn't remove any of the cipro (it didn't develop any dry foam during the treatment) but improved the oxygenation greatly. After the last day it started skimming which resulted in a light brown and slightly milky skimmate.
On the evening of the 28th I tossed one of my (now too many) anemone crabs in the anemone an the gig seems to be fine with it. Actually I feel the crab helps now by removing slime from the anemone's foot.
The good news is that it clearly started coloring up now. Some patches of tentacles show a clearly brown coloring and many other show hints of light brown color. If it goes at this rate it may be colored up again in about two to three weeks.
The mouth is now also round and closed.
I would say the treatment worked well with the modifications I made (bio filter & skimmer)
20.04.2015 Tank set up new with primed powerhead filter and water from main tank
21.04.2015 Anemone arrived and placed in tank 1. Cipro dose
22.04.2015 60% water change 2. Cipro dose
23.04.2015 100% water change - Tank transfer 3. Cipro dose
24.04.2015 60% water change 4. Cipro dose
25.04.2015 60% water change 5. Cipro dose
26.04.2015 no water change 6. Cipro dose
27.04.2015 60% water change 7. Cipro dose
28.04.2015 no water change
29.04.2015 no water change
30.04.2015 no water change
I always dosed late at night to let give the cipro a minimum of 8 hours without light.
I dissolved the cipro tablet in a small water bottle with some RO water by letting it soak while I changed the tank water. Before pouring it into the tank I shook the bottle vigorously to completely dissolve the tablet. I feel this way you don't get the particulates that you get by dissolving it between your fingers in the tank.
I usually left the skimmer running full force during the day and at a reduced strength during the night. To my observation it didn't remove any of the cipro (it didn't develop any dry foam during the treatment) but improved the oxygenation greatly. After the last day it started skimming which resulted in a light brown and slightly milky skimmate.
On the evening of the 28th I tossed one of my (now too many) anemone crabs in the anemone an the gig seems to be fine with it. Actually I feel the crab helps now by removing slime from the anemone's foot.
addictedreefer
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Am i missing something? Why can't you remove to the DT? Leaving him in a HT without water changes (even with a filter) is asking for trouble.
ThRoewer
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I'm will be doing water changes, just not daily 60% anymore. Those where only during the treatment. Once a week should be more than enough for now.
The anemone is doing fine so far and moving it to a new tank to move it soon again is likely more harmful than leaving it where it is for now.
The tank has a bio-filter, a skimmer and for light a Kessil A360WE.
There is nothing that pollutes the water or competes for space - the nem has it all for itself with the shrimp and some algea. In the current display it would have to share about twice the volume of it's current tank with 9 fish, about 20 crabs and shrimp and at least 30 corals.
It's a bit of a mess because the new tank didn't arrive at the projected time.
The anemone is doing fine so far and moving it to a new tank to move it soon again is likely more harmful than leaving it where it is for now.
The tank has a bio-filter, a skimmer and for light a Kessil A360WE.
There is nothing that pollutes the water or competes for space - the nem has it all for itself with the shrimp and some algea. In the current display it would have to share about twice the volume of it's current tank with 9 fish, about 20 crabs and shrimp and at least 30 corals.
It's a bit of a mess because the new tank didn't arrive at the projected time.
ocellaris123
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Good to see yours is doing well;
From the threads here it seems the regular liveaquaria giganteas do better with treatment than the divers den ones.
From the threads here it seems the regular liveaquaria giganteas do better with treatment than the divers den ones.
ThRoewer
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The reason might be that regular ones get to you within days of their arrival in Los Angeles. So treatment can begin right away. Also they only shipped once after their arrival in the US. So they have endured likely only 2 long shipments in the bag
Divers Den anemones are first shipped to Wisconsin and then held in QT for at least 2 weeks. That gives the disease more time to progress, even if the DD anemones look good due to optimal conditions. By the time they get to you they have gone through at least 3 shipping procedures and valuable time for treatment has been lost.
Divers Den anemones are first shipped to Wisconsin and then held in QT for at least 2 weeks. That gives the disease more time to progress, even if the DD anemones look good due to optimal conditions. By the time they get to you they have gone through at least 3 shipping procedures and valuable time for treatment has been lost.
ocellaris123
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DD treats their anemones with cipro also.
Would be interesting to see what color yours ends up. Keep up the good work.
D-Nak
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From what we've seen the DD Cipro regiment is not effective. The only way for it to work is if each nem is in an individual QT system to avoid cross-contamination. I wonder if the LA facility in Wisconsin goes through the extensive measures required to completely iradicate the pathogen. If they only do a partial treatment, they could actually be making matters worse as I suspect that the antibiotic stresses the nem (in most cases I've ended up with a bleached nem and I correlate it to the use of the antibiotic) and with the nem in an already weakened state, the pathogen can gain a foothold.
ThRoewer
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What causes the actual color, just the Zooxanthellae?
In that case I could try feeding it a bit of a blue mushroom
