Nothing wrong with dumping plastic waste in the ocean?
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ReefingBuddha
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Didn't realize it ever died. LONG LIVE CHUCK NORRIS!
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13554039#post13554039 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
BTW silica sand is the rule on beaches outside of the narrow band of the tropicsMost of the US coastline is silica sand in fact. I can send you plenty
Took the words right out of my mouth Bill
Even in the tropics silica based beaches are quite normal as well 
supertech99
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I am not suprised, how much of an "expert" do you think you can get for 25k a year!
BurntOutReefer
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Dont know about the ocean, but some good reading here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/11/anton_wylie_phages/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/11/anton_wylie_phages/
He's kind of right in only one sense of what he said. If we continue what we do everything that can't adapt will die and I figure that by everything it means EVERYTHING period or at least close to it. Just remind him that when everything dies it could take millions of years to fix (never know) or have creatures evolve that will fix it. But then again who cares, we'll be dead because everything on land is interdependant with the oceans. Mind the sarcasm now.
barnett8
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First of all I think that the person teaching this is ludicrous for thinking that by the time that the bacteria the oceans will NOT be a barren wasteland.
As for how long it will take microbes to evolve to eat plastic people have theorized that it will take several thousand years. But they do believe that they will.
As for microbes digesting the silica sand: silica has absolutely no nutritional value where a petroleum bases thing like plastic are simply stored energy form previous microorganisms.
As for how long it will take microbes to evolve to eat plastic people have theorized that it will take several thousand years. But they do believe that they will.
As for microbes digesting the silica sand: silica has absolutely no nutritional value where a petroleum bases thing like plastic are simply stored energy form previous microorganisms.
barnett8
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We may not be scientists, but this guy is: http://www.worldwithoutus.com/did_you_know.html
"Hundreds of thousands of years: microbes will learn to digest plastic."
"Hundreds of thousands of years: microbes will learn to digest plastic."
Megalodon
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Now he's going on about how the Cook Inlet beluga, a geographically and genetically distinct species, doesn't need protection because it can just swim anywhere it wants to and it's impossible to accurately determine if their numbers have fallen or not.
Not to mention, that whole inhumane adapt or die nonsense.
Not to mention, that whole inhumane adapt or die nonsense.
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I guess he's right it's all drivel...but wait maybe he should tell that to the dinosaurs who did suddenly die out due to environmental issues. Just because something may evolve or adapt to the situation, does it mean that we as humans have the right to essentially kill the species that can't? He is right that something would likely adapt to use the plastic but can we afford to wait for it to happen?
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Very much so.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13573696#post13573696 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
I take it his philosophy is that everything should adapt to us humans without us humans taking any personal responsibility
He believes that because 99% of all species to ever exist are now extinct, there's nothing wrong with driving a species to extinction ourselves. That it's natural because we ourselves are natural. That our current rate of existence is perfectly sustainable. He says, if the world wasn't sustainable, we'd all be dead.
Not only that, he doesn't believe humans have been irresponsible. He will not even denounce illegal poaching, fishing, or logging.
He also believes conservation is pointless as it doesn't work. That there are no species that have been saved from extinction by humans.
I try telling him otherwise but he says I need to take some courses in evolutionary biology and ecology because I'm clearly uneducated about the current state of the world's ecosystems.
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Pls explain this statement - there's nothing wrong with driving a species to extinction ourselves. That it's natural because we ourselves are natural. how is that??????
there are no species that have been saved from extinction by humans.
ask him to learn how to use internet there a long list of plants and animals saved and reintroduced.
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Is he really a teacher ?? is he has moral values ?
there are no species that have been saved from extinction by humans.
ask him to learn how to use internet there a long list of plants and animals saved and reintroduced.
finally
Is he really a teacher ?? is he has moral values ?
We're heading that way. We're driving many fish populations right down the tubes, and wild caught fish are still a major food source around the world. We build developments and shopping malls on once productive farmland. The world population continues to grow, there are areas of the world that already don't have enough food to go around and do indeed have people dieing as a result. We essentially live in a box, and there's nothing being added to sustain us all, so there is going to be a limit.
BTW if any of the students and professors I know from the Dept. of Ecology and Evolution at the Universty I work at are anything to go by, that teacher will loose his bet about the outcome of you taking a few E and E courses
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