Perry's 120 Gallon Reef
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Perry:
Incredible colors and your corals all appear super healthy. Do you have the names for any of these? They look like some of the species that are on Battlecorals' site.
Greg
Anthony357
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awesome tank!
cwegescheide
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Perry whats up buddy! The tank is lookin good my man..
plyle02
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Perry, I meant that comparing test results from two different labs on two different tanks would not be as useful as comparing two different tanks' test from one lab.
I wouldn't worry either - worrying is a waste of energy. However, I am interested in the test results and concerned about the parameters that significantly vary from natural seawater.
Yes Mindy, worry is just a total waste of time and energy, lol! I understand exactly what you mean, and the test results will certainly help to make considerations on dosing and calibration. I have not seen any real shift in parameters, except when I went to mixing my own, and likely it was a result of not shaking the containers as well as I thought, and likely the concentration was higher with parts unmixed. I do however seem to see little fluctuation with water changes, I am currently mixing with lower S.G. levels when doing water changes, due to the increased salinity over time, as a result of Component 3. Cheers
This could be, I think it is bacteria to be honest, building on the sandbed, if I disturb, the corals go nuts, so I simply do so weekly. I will be adding more sand sifters too. I just got back from vacation with no dosing all week, just feeding. Corals are all healthy, but some have darkened tissue. I am 6 weeks without a reactor exchange, did not want to pull nutrients down while on vacation, so my plans are to do a water change today, then resume dosing. In a few days, I will exchange all medias. I will update accordingly.
Yes, I am leaning on some sort of tenuis, it is a maricultured from Bali. Not a sarmentosa, at least based on my observations, once it throws branches a bit more, I will be able to maybe ID better, but for now it is called crazy maricultured, lol...
Hey Tim!
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Cheers buddy!!!
Hey Greg, I will have to look over and see, I know my Acid Trip was RMF, also JF Sour Twist, and others are maricultured Fiji. I will have to do a new post soon, I will include names
Thank You Anthony!!!
Chris, how the hell are you man!!! I was just thinking of you recently, wondering if you were still in, I certainly miss seeing you around man. Hope all is well, PM me sometime to catch up, we will have to exchange numbers again, new phone and all....
plyle02
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Update:
So gone for 7 days, no dosing, only feeding fish, once per day with a fairly large portion of food. Skimmer cup was full upon arrival, good stuff No coral issues or fish losses during this Probiotic break, the tank looks great, Red Robin, my canary in the coal mine, looks darker in the tissue, not real happy with the way it looks, and tests revealed only 5ppm on NO3 and still 0.00 PO4. So, I am thinking the Life Bio Fil stood up to the challenge of maintaining low nutrients. I am wanting to lower back to 2.5ppm on NO3, so hopefully that will occur with a media exchange, and 10% water change. I am eager to get back to dosing Energy, especially to see the Red Robin lighten up a bit, other than that, all is good on the reef. My parameters were still locked in, so that was a relief too. Hopefully I can get a pic in the next day or two 9 months in with AF and still quite pleased with the results!
So gone for 7 days, no dosing, only feeding fish, once per day with a fairly large portion of food. Skimmer cup was full upon arrival, good stuff
No coral issues or fish losses during this Probiotic break, the tank looks great, Red Robin, my canary in the coal mine, looks darker in the tissue, not real happy with the way it looks, and tests revealed only 5ppm on NO3 and still 0.00 PO4. So, I am thinking the Life Bio Fil stood up to the challenge of maintaining low nutrients. I am wanting to lower back to 2.5ppm on NO3, so hopefully that will occur with a media exchange, and 10% water change. I am eager to get back to dosing Energy, especially to see the Red Robin lighten up a bit, other than that, all is good on the reef. My parameters were still locked in, so that was a relief too. Hopefully I can get a pic in the next day or two 9 months in with AF and still quite pleased with the results!Perry does the brown thing on your sandbed also has air bubbles on them? I experience them too, I usually disturb the sand bed but they come back. At the moment it is not bothering me too much.It doesnt look like it is affecting anything or going to get worst, just aesthetically not pleasing
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Myka
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Perry, are you wanting 0.00 ppm PO4? Maybe you should cut back on the amount of PO4 media in the next media exchange, or even skip out on it until you see some? PO4 at 0.00 ppm could be the reason NO3 has risen.
plyle02
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Happy days PerryJust 1, 2 and 3 lol
Thanks Dom! Yes, 9 months in now, everything is still well, colors are drab to me right now, but I will be making a bulb change soon, and will be changing over the spectrum. I will update the journal when that happens. Other than that, just chugging along watching things grow, glad to be home from vacation, back to the grind, lol...
Perry does the brown thing on your sandbed also has air bubbles on them? I experience them too, I usually disturb the sand bed but they come back. At the moment it is not bothering me too much.It doesnt look like it is affecting anything or going to get worst, just aesthetically not pleasing
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Yes, I also see this develop as fuzz on the back wall of the tank, and also on plastics. The rock work is fairly clean and clear of it, my urchin and snails keep the rock and the tank and plastics fairly clean, fairly unnoticeable, so not really concerned. The deposits in the sand are ok as long as there is flow, if not, yes I see some bubbling, to me it appears to be bacteria, but this is a guess. The stuff once disturbed comes back, not really overly concerned at the moment. Cheers
Good thought Mindy, I actually did increase the Phosphate Minus last exchange, I also removed filter socks, and removed 4 liters of matrix and replaced with 2 liters of Life Bio Fil. While on vacation, I sort of expected to see NO3 rise a bit, still only 5PPM, but that shift will impact colors. Anyway, I will likely reduce Phosphate Minus, I use the Hanna Handheld, so 0.00 can still have presence of PO4, but it will be interesting to see the impact on colors, hmmmm..... more experiments....LOL....
Yes, I also see this develop as fuzz on the back wall of the tank, and also on plastics. The rock work is fairly clean and clear of it, my urchin and snails keep the rock and the tank and plastics fairly clean, fairly unnoticeable, so not really concerned. The deposits in the sand are ok as long as there is flow, if not, yes I see some bubbling, to me it appears to be bacteria, but this is a guess. The stuff once disturbed comes back, not really overly concerned at the moment. Cheers
Exactly similar to mine.A have a few sifters and sand dollar to help move the sand a bit .When I manually blow the sand of it sps just goes into crazy feed mode.
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Mr.Fishtank
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This is the crap that grows on my sand. I think it might be brown cyano but not certain. If I disturb the sand at all it gets so much worse. Some times it is gone for a day or two but just comes right back and worse. NO3 reads 4 and PO4 has always read 0.00 on hanna and red sea kits. But I have some gha growing in low flow area. I have gone months without using any phosphate media and still can't get a reading. I'm thinking that the stuff on the sand and the little gha that I have is giving me undetectable readings.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
MichaelW
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This is the crap that grows on my sand. I think it might be brown cyano but not certain. If I disturb the sand at all it gets so much worse. Some times it is gone for a day or two but just comes right back and worse. NO3 reads 4 and PO4 has always read 0.00 on hanna and red sea kits. But I have some gha growing in low flow area. I have gone months without using any phosphate media and still can't get a reading. I'm thinking that the stuff on the sand and the little gha that I have is giving me undetectable readings.
Thoughts?
This is very much the same as what I am getting at the moment 2. Brown slime like cyano and lots of gas bubbles over the sand and some on rocks. I have stopped dosing np pro and all coral foods (except coral b) to see if it makes a difference. I can't be sure but I think mine may have popped up when my po4 got down to 0 also.
plyle02
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Yes, the corals and vermetid snails go bonkers in my tank, they love the dirty water for the 10 minutes it stays dirty, lol... Cheers
This is the crap that grows on my sand. I think it might be brown cyano but not certain. If I disturb the sand at all it gets so much worse. Some times it is gone for a day or two but just comes right back and worse. NO3 reads 4 and PO4 has always read 0.00 on hanna and red sea kits. But I have some gha growing in low flow area. I have gone months without using any phosphate media and still can't get a reading. I'm thinking that the stuff on the sand and the little gha that I have is giving me undetectable readings.
Thoughts?
Yes, very similar, I just did an exchange, I will monitor and see what happens, I am also 0.00 on PO4, and yes, it does look similar to this. Maybe between Michael, myself and you, we can get a better idea.
Mike, very similar indeed, I am upping my NP Pro and lowering bacteria, I am still thinking it is bacteria building, I may be wrong, but it does seem to be present with lowered PO4, hmm.....
I think its bacteria also - i'm overdosing & seeing it...i was hoping the bubbles was N2 gas...my Po4 ain't zero(0.05)
MichaelW
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I would have thought that increasing np pro would only increase the "bad" bacteria, where, adding just pro bio s might only add the "good" bacteria that could outcomete this brown stuff. .. Unless the brown stuff is the pro bio s build up then maybe should stop dosing both.
I have stopped all A,V,E and flatworm stop. But I have some lameness in a few corals so don't really want to... Just can't stand the brown Crap.
You just did an exchange of what? Your sand bad? Or do you mean your media?
I have stopped all A,V,E and flatworm stop. But I have some lameness in a few corals so don't really want to... Just can't stand the brown Crap.
You just did an exchange of what? Your sand bad? Or do you mean your media?
plyle02
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Hi, yes this is the original thought
Mike,
By exchange I meant media, I stayed with 3 cups of Zeo Mix, 1.5 cups of AF Carbon, and lowered from 1.25 cups of Phosphate Minus to .75 cup. I also cleaned the sump, and added the filter sock back into use. I also removed 2 liters of siporax from the reactor to a basket, so I am now with 2 liters of siporax and 2 liters of AF Life Bio Fil. I am also encountering small patches of green cyano again, so by getting my NO3 down, my hopes are that it goes away, we shall see. All else looks good, I have no intentions of stopping Amino Mix, Vitality, Energy, or Build. Will keep you posted. Michael, you may be right, I think I will increase Pro Bio S to 5 drops and reduce NP Pro to 2 drops daily, this may be the solution, we shall see. My original thoughts were to increase carbon source to aid in NO3 breakdown, but the cyano may be starved out with reduction instead, and maybe the bacteria will starve or out compete cyano for nutrients. I will begin this tomorrow and update results.
Wrangy
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I'm sure in a week or two you'll have them back and popping like crazy again!
It's always nice coming home from a vacation, as much fun as they are! Especially returning home to a tank full of your babies lol that's the very first thing I do when I get back, feed them :love2: dump my bags by the door, rush in and give them a big helping :lolspin:Looking forward to the next update my friend and the spectrum change you go to
Why? Are you wanting to run only AF media?
plyle02
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I'm sure in a week or two you'll have them back and popping like crazy again!
Looking forward to the next update my friend and the spectrum change you go to
Yes, that is how it went down, I went straight to the tank, glad that no top off issues occurred, or dosing pump failures, or power loss, all those things way heavy on the mind, lol... Some corals have a drab appearance, but cannot expect much when the program is abandoned for a week, but glad to know I can go on vacation and still have a decent tank to look at
Hi Ed,
I just removed siporax and placed on in a spaghetti strainer with the same 2 liters, than put another strainer and placed on top of that one with 2 liters Life Bio Fil. I let the matrix go dead, so I am re-seeding after a tap water cleanse in my nano that only has matrix. That is 4 liters worth. I will let this run like this for a couple of months, and maybe put back in the sump. So right now just 2 liters of siporax and 2 liters of Life Bio Fil running passive in sump. This freed up more space as I removed a reactor that housed the siporax.
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