pico reef pest algae problem challenge

Very nice that's a helpful post

If there's been another neomeris kill I don't remember, nice to have spot application proof. I was about to recommend nacl step up dilution level if 3% wasn't working tankwide...but you zapped it with direct diluted 3%
 
So glad this thread is still going have been following since the beginning..was one of the first to give it a shot on this thread..and I will say although I am still fighting the battle it is significantly easier. Once a month or every 6 weeks I pull a few pieces out here and there but am not worried about a whole tank take over any longer. Anyone still on the fence..GIVE IT A SHOT! I had tried it all with no relief but this has helped a lot.
 
Heys guys. I read through this thread and decided to try the experiment on a fairly new tank I have. It's been up for 2 1/2 months now and have quite a bit of hair algae. I picked one rock I had that was easy to pull out and target with peroxide. I removed the rock and placed it in a container and simply poured it from a brand new bottle of 3% peroxide. Allowed it to stay on it for 3 minutes and then rinsed with fresh saltwater and placed back in the tank.
Here's the order of the pics.
1. before treatment
2. day 1
3. day 2
4. day 3
5. day 4
6. day 5
7. day 6
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Continued on next post......
 
Continued from last post showing days 5 and 6.
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As you can see, it's almost gone!!! I've considered dosing the entire tank because I have a ton of hair algae in this tank. It's a fowlr at the moment, so I'm not concerned with any corals. Anyway, just thought I'd share how it worked for me. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
Yes, neometris is very sensitive I have found. I had a snail that had 3 neometris on it. I grabbed the snail, held it upside down for 3 min in 50/50 3%, washed him (or her) off, and put back in the tank. The snail is now sweeky clean :eek2:

On another rock, simply several drops of the 50/50 mix on the neometris and it was already detaching and bubbling.
 
drtechno said:
Here is my favia, with spot application around the edges of it of 50/50 3%.. Notice the neometris is toast.
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Thanx for this post! I was beginning to think that I was the only one in this hobby with the neomeris problem. So do tell, I see you did 50/50 3% did you dip or drain and treat?

Would you mind sharing your water parameters for comparison to my own
 
Napi napoli Make sure to read previous page

Drtechno has direct kill pics

We currently advise any pest complainant do exactly what is featured in pics as a proven kill

If you want to be the first to review a systemic dosing of fresh peroxide on neomeris go righty ahead, skimmer on. The peroxide will cause the pull of more organics, it will work overtime.

After reading the whole thread for lists of sensitives if you want to dose id do 1.5 mils per ten gallons, twice a week, big water change on weekends it might die in two weeks.

If making headway into peroxide science isn't your goal as much as simply curing your tank, the last page shows two neomeris confirmed kills

May I ask why you won't do a 50% tank drain? We could easily run spot treatment on top, submerged spot treatment for the neomeris left on the lower rock.

Whole tank dosing is last, last recommended among peroxide treatments but as you can see people typically are getting similar results to our drain runs...


Nacl

I thought that was pretty good timing for drtechno to post neo kill pics right when you posted I emailed his post link to a buddy earlier today, neomeris is becoming more popular it seems. I've never seen it in person before
 
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brandon429 said:
You can dip those in a 5o/5o no prob take us some before and after pics

On the neomeris, I know they are tough! Before nuking can you try some kind of direct peroxide contact instead of a tank dose, i'm really interested in seeing if its the first plant based organism out of these 20 pages that can tolerate a direct contact of any kind. Perhaps the tankwide dose is just too diluted to work with out being doubled or tripled...hopefully there is some test rock you can lift out or there is some growth up top easy to get to with a 20% tank drain, just one little direct contact test would be such helpful data!
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I'm gonna knock out a 50/50 dip on the same rock and report back in a couple days. If I can contribute to the post to help anyone before the nuke I will.:blown:

Brandon I'll send ya some if you want to see it.. in fact I'll send ya 100 gal of it hahahahahaha
 
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Done! Did a 50/50 3% on a rock I could pull out with nothing else on it. submerged for roughly 3-4 min It looked like an airstone, amphipods were jumping ship so something was happening for sure. I'll report back once I see any change
 
Great can't wait to see how it does

Napoli it seemed like a nice modification for your approach to pre measure out the days dose and apply it as a submerged spot treatment, with pumps off etc

Any form of brief concentrated application will be better/faster than the basic systemic dose
 
Tank OD

Tank OD

I have been debating with myself about another update. My previous was on page 15. I decided it could help some people on the fence or with serious outbreaks. Long post here.
I OD'ed my tank twice now. The first time intentionally. I am using 35 % straight up. Dosage was about 1ml per gal.

Losses shrimp, scallop. My bad and I am not happy, enough said.

No affect on fish.

All corels shrivel up and recover. Softies, leather, zoos.

The tank actually bubbled vigoruosly and coated everything with bubbles. Skimming did in a day what would take 3 days. Very smelly with organics.
PO4 went to .21 from .06.
Results. No more bubble algae, hair algae near gone, cyano bacteria gone.

It takes a couple days to a week with weekly water changes for the corals to get back to normal and open up again. Fish seems totally unaffected. Snails unaffected.

I continue to treat my pumps by directly dipping them in 35%. 50% diluted
I continue to clean my glass with paper towels and 35 % 50 % diluted


My tank is much cleaner and right now very white but starting to colour up again.

Anyone who is afraid to pull out a rock and treat it directly should not be.

Whole tank dosing I would say should be done with precious items removed for a couple days. The affects seem to hit the softies for that period of time.

I have just done regular weekly water changes since.

My PO4 is as of last weekend tested 0 for the first time ever.

I continue to use GFO changed out weekly until PO4 stabalizes.
 
Ha now that's a party

I ditched 3% too its a move akin to upgrading from wine coolers to everclear... Skip the middle man lol?

Did you notice loss of pods or brittle stars
 
Pods did not observe before or after, will have to check my sump it did have lots. I have a brown star who is not very happy with it. Sensitive for sure.
If you find more about the chemistry I would like to read it. The O2 release ( I'm assuming ) was amazing. Also the coraline loss. It's like starting over for the tank but it comes back quick. My pellets also still have lots of bacteria froth in them. I'm going to try and find good bacteria to keep away the bad and stop this stuff from growing. I still have a light green dust algae on my glass every couple days.
 
brandon429 said:
Napi napoli Make sure to read previous page

Drtechno has direct kill pics

We currently advise any pest complainant do exactly what is featured in pics as a proven kill

If you want to be the first to review a systemic dosing of fresh peroxide on neomeris go righty ahead, skimmer on. The peroxide will cause the pull of more organics, it will work overtime.

After reading the whole thread for lists of sensitives if you want to dose id do 1.5 mils per ten gallons, twice a week, big water change on weekends it might die in two weeks.

If making headway into peroxide science isn't your goal as much as simply curing your tank, the last page shows two neomeris confirmed kills

May I ask why you won't do a 50% tank drain? We could easily run spot treatment on top, submerged spot treatment for the neomeris left on the lower rock.

Whole tank dosing is last, last recommended among peroxide treatments but as you can see people typically are getting similar results to our drain runs...


Nacl

I thought that was pretty good timing for drtechno to post neo kill pics right when you posted I emailed his post link to a buddy earlier today, neomeris is becoming more popular it seems. I've never seen it in person before
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If I do 50% tank drain how do you apply it to the lower submerged rocks?
 
I'm looking for your pics again link them back to me man I see so many they are running together lol

The perfect strategy comes from pics

Don't think i'm crazy but would it be possible for you to take one pic right now, full tank shot of the problem tank face on so I can see it clearly? I think I remember wanting to get a full picture of your surrounding details, the initial problem shot was just a rock

There's no way it'll survive a direct contact run, so I recommend we do the work to drain the tank and access it, or remove the rocks which you didn't want to do.


My idea was to at least experience a 50% loss to marvel at and take the rest in stride, maybe one more run later, after this partial water change and initial dieoff. If two big water change runs in a month is all it takes to clean your tank id say its worth the effort considering everything stays in tact

whole tank dosing is slow...

Did you try the technique of applying peroxide right to patches a few times or was it just added to tank water


Also, was the bottle absolutely new, unopened before your application?
 
Ok thanks I remember now, you had the holding tank for corals that is helpful. Before starting a big job you want to try a little test first? How about taking a few mls from a new bottle and spot injecting your worst area, underwater, with pumps off for a second just to concentrate a single spot.

Id like to see just a test patch response, you should see a loss of algae there almost in 24 hours since its that heavy green type, greens die fast. Maybe two days since its a submerged run...

I want to see how big of an area dies off. Id try to catch/hold elsewhere the shrimp if possible, corals shouldn't mind such a small test run. There's a huge chance shrimp wouldn't either, in that dilution, but if you can catch them why not be safe...

What if your treatment is as simple as managing nice water changes and a couple spot treatments for two weeks and you don't have to remove anything except shrimp and any corals that show some attitude

now that I see your pics again and note the size of the tank this seems a safe test run, just one slow targeted injection, using a diabetic syringe, right into your test area. It could be way less than the total mls you would use on a 1:10 test run

If that was my tank id try this quick run first just to gauge the amount of work to prepare for

A drain if you really wanted to hit it hard could be 2/3rds down, enough for fish to swim but a nice exposure of all top green for a quick 24 hour kill since it would be direct contact

But this submerged spot treatment might get you an easy ticket

Take good closeup pics for us in your test area!
 
OK

If I do a partial drain and do what I can with the rock that is exposed, the rest of the rock that is under water has that green film all over it and a spot treatment isn't going to work with water in there
 
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