pico reef pest algae problem challenge

I like the upflow ones Santa Monica is posting about they take up less room... also their smaller footprint may mean less water yellowing
how big is your tank with the ATS kafuda
 
brandon429 said:
I like the upflow ones Santa Monica is posting about they take up less room... also their smaller footprint may mean less water yellowing
how big is your tank with the ATS kafuda
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Please stop spreading false information about algae scrubbers. They don't make the water yellow, not following directions makes the water yellow.
 
brandon429 said:
I like the upflow ones Santa Monica is posting about they take up less room... also their smaller footprint may mean less water yellowing
how big is your tank with the ATS kafuda
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Just a 5.5 with a small above tank sump that holds 4 of my mangroves so total water volume is probably right at 5 gallons: 4.25 display, the aquaclear, and the sump.
 
Srusso I was referring to Adey systems, yes it can :) google it.

We know there are ways to tweak it, locate an ATS thread and details are inside. Not trying to slight your system. High doc concentration has been noted in the past, its worth considering.

Neither ATS nor peroxide are perfect systems. A resounding theme in ATS searches with wash trays is yellowing water. I have no doubt your setup is perfect.
 
The yellowing is impacted by bioloading, freq of water changes if any, and biota of the filter compartment, accessory filtration (carbon) etc. new users relying on ATS as pure stand alone tank support will find this in searches. The technique ranges back to the 60's, its well covered.

To be fair, its possible to kill your whole system with peroxide, maybe that evens out worst case scenarios for you. I'm sure a proponent of ATS won't agree to many limitations...if so, which ones would you state?

One of several links available:
http://netclub.athiel.com/Ianrefug.htm

You can combat the yellowing in ways listed above. Some of Santa Monica's posters have found ways to limit it using accessory devices and regular screen cleaning. As said above, ATS are valid by all means try one, thousands of people in sm's thread have blizzards of success pictures, all reefkeeping approaches do.
 
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brandon429 said:
To be fair, its possible to kill your whole system with peroxide, maybe that evens out worst case scenarios for you. I'm sure a proponent of ATS won't agree to many limitations...if so, which ones would you state?
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Yeah, this is more of what I was referring to, any thing done wrong can lead to bad or undesirable outcomes. :beer:

Scrubbers only limitation IMHO is the general reefing communities understanding of them all together and the lack of a commercial product. Because of this fact, 100% of scrubbers are built by hand and range GREATLY in quality. That is its biggest limitation.

Now back to the H2O2! :spin3:
Sorry for derailing!
 
Its no prob. Im getting humbled by some of these p treatments that aren't panning out nacl's devastation with neomeris is just like rktek's, after the initial wipe it came back. I think that means it beat the challenge :(
 
Having ceded to the evil macro n. Annulata id love to see anything kick its butt.

Following nacl's threads on acid bath/bleaching I think he's heading towards some style of ATS for nutrient control and I want it to work or he will hate reefkeeping

At least I learned from his posts if the stuff ever gets in my vase kill the first sprig with 60 seconds of direct propane fire on the rock forsaking any bystanders. I'll chalk it worst invader to have, even over string diatoms maybe
 
brandon429 said:
Having ceded to the evil macro n. Annulata id love to see anything kick its butt.

Following nacl's threads on acid bath/bleaching I think he's heading towards some style of ATS for nutrient control and I want it to work or he will hate reefkeeping

At least I learned from his posts if the stuff ever gets in my vase kill the first sprig with 60 seconds of direct propane fire on the rock forsaking any bystanders. I'll chalk it worst invader to have, even over string diatoms maybe
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I'm hanging in here Brandon. although the plan didn't work for me, to be fair I gave the challenge a hell a test! on the bright side the H2O2 did in fact knock out the cyno and the fuzzy brown/green algae I had scattered about. I also showed anyone following along that some species of corals can survive even extreme measures. I know if I had pulled the plug faster on my run I could have saved a lot more. Also I did have a friend with a couple sprouts of neo that he hit early with a pump off underwater soaking that died and have not come back.

As you mentioned I'm in the process of a bleach/acid reincarnation. I know I will love the things we do in this hobby once I can get back to seeing the things that are the reasons we do it. We can rebuild it and it will be stronger and better :hammer::hammer: and if I have anything to deal with on the next run you can believe I'll be here posting h2o2 results hahahaha :rollface:
 
Hi fellow Lubbockite :)

yes we have about 5 examples of that valonia cure in this thread w pics, somewhere around the middle lol theres so many pages I can't recall which ones but they are there!

bubble algae turns white and disappears in just a few days after an emersed spot treatment thanks for stopping by, see you at aquarilease man
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I took out alot of my rock and soaked it in a bucket with 64oz of peroxide and a power head...soaked for about 25 hours. Then rinsed really well and dried it out..but there are still some rocks that I need to spot treat before I upgrade in a couple weeks...David told me about it. But I have learned alot from the thread...thanks for the info
 
I found it on 82 next to where old zuchinni's used to be, quaker shop center, health food store twenty bucks!! Can't remember name but its on the north wall of shopping center across from abuelos
 
Thank you Brandon for starting this thread. I have almost pulled the plug on this hobby, after 12 yrs and countless $$$$ wasted. I started doing external dips on my zoa and ric frags, most are doing awesome. Once we (mostly me) are done with my son's 1st birthday week:celeb1: (yeah I said week...my wife's idea :headwallblue:) I will start pulling out the rocks and spot treating. I will try to post pics.


Thanks

Kris
 
Thanks Kris! its not a perfect method but for some tanks its all that works after exhaustive efforts...I know it was for my tank.

Kong, we want pics.

A recurring tenet on this thread is finding ways to kill algae when other popular methods fail

If you are willing to trade off stray electrical current in the reef for a chemical assault that's fine...just post pics and let me see how id use that in a vase with a half inch opening around my target area.
 
So you can run the treatment on a full tank of water?

I noticed the pic you posted here is the same one on the website. do you have other pics to show? Im thinking from your R and D phases, you had to experiment on lots of different scenarios (you mentioned bubble algae too) and Id like to see those.

Before we buy (literally) into anything we like to see tons of research pics. The website has a couple details in it that give me some more questions too but lets start with as many pics as you have for the invaders the device is said to manage/

some of the tanks in this thread that were cleaned up were 80% wrecked with bryopsis...so for your device, how large is the treated area per "zap", meaning how many pokes and prods around the tank will it take to clean out a whole rock surface covered in bryopsis, not just a tiny area like in your first photograph?
 
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Update: we had posts from member Kong to which I was responding... An electrical device to shock algae
His posts are now deleted so this meant sales spam...ok back to peroxide lol

On the big nano-reef thread, look at the spreadsheet poster enigma has compiled about her systemic run w/ outcomes! Its at the bottom
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=268706&st=820&start=820

A cool take away fact again relates to acropora sps...I've yet to come across any negative reaction using any treatment method...sps acros are resistant to peroxide consistently
 
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