pico reef pest algae problem challenge

[brandon429]

oh yea

oh yea

We do need the pics to show others we aren't looney tunes for using the stuff lol


The h202 method will catch on probably about 2015 it was that kind of lag before pico reefs caught on with everybody saying they were unstable...

 

[KafudaFish]

0.5 ml H2O2 for 4 minutes out of tank with a rinse and returned to the tank.

 

[coralman123]

hey there thanks for the pm first what is preoxide and how does it work
i have snails crabs and blennies in my tank i am going to turn out the lights
and cut the feedings down to every other day for the next three days
should leave the atenic on or off i will post pic hope they show
the problem

 

[brandon429]

we are talking about 3% hydrogen peroxide you get from the grocery store, to put on cuts/wounds, gargle as mouth wash etc

Your tank might have a severe infestation we need to take it slow to be careful, right off the bat I see some peroxide sensitive xenia etc

From the pics I can't tell what kind of tank we are working with. try to take one pic standing back that shows your whole tank side to side and top to bottom, these pics are good for closeups but I can't grasp the whole scope yet. try to give us a list of all corals, shrimps and fish you have before we get started.

I look forward to this challenge its what I get for posting such a broad statement lol but I think we can beat it slowly, these pics are just to prepare an approach customized to your tank. I can see pics of the frag racks, is that all we are treating or is there tank space behind the frag racks with green algae all over the rocks>?

 

[brandon429]

the frag rack doesn't look that bad. from the coralline deposition it looks like you are maintaining alk and calcium well

the tank appears to be very aged and this algae community looks like a permanent part of the maturation inside the tank rock, removing that kind of algae community is amazingly hard work but it can be done. judging by the pics we have the algae has quite a foothold no? If you want to remove patches of algae with peroxide thats easy, just lift the target rocks outside the tank, treat with a few drops peroxide on the target, let sit for 2 mins, then rinse and reinstall in the main tank.

If you are talking about reversing the algal loading in the whole tank you are talking quite a tuneup, let me know

we just need a few more pics, standing back a little and then from the sides of the tank to really get a look at the approach.

 

[brandon429]

what are your calcium, alk and phosphate/nitrate readings and do you run a skimmer

what other filtration do you have? Also we need to know tank size and the fish loading and what you feed the tank

where does the water come from you use in this tank for topoff and salt makeup

 

[thebanker]

I've been looking into H2O2 ever since Justin Credabel's Hydrogen Peroxide video. (youtube "justin credabel peroxide" and you'll see what I mean)

I have some problem areas in my tank with Bryopsis and GHA, what is the best way to treat them with H2O2 without removing the rocks from the tank? Some rocks are very large, and removing them from my tank will be difficult / impossible without wrecking everything.

 

[brad65ford]

+ 1 I'm going to try this also with target rock/corals at first. I'm want to do the whole tank but not sure if its the best for the tank. Wonder how it effects the bacteria population.

 

[brandon429]

It is my assumption that diluted use probably boosts bacterial loading not lessens it

the immediate effect of peroxide is an increase in dissolved oxygen and the filter bacteria are notably aerobes

we are using such dilution that we've never registered ammonia readings indicating bacteria death etc
this chemical and potassium permanganate are commonly used in aquaculture as sludge digestors, boosters of microbes that digest lake and river waste.

The best way to treat a tank that you can't remove the rocks is to take the time to drain the water down to the level you need. its likely the cumulative effect of not changing enough water frequently enough is a factor in the algae target, additionally this gives another chance to remove some detritus from the tank and rock crevices

In tanks that don't show sensitive species, people online have turned off all the pumps and waited for the water to slow as best as possible, then lightly apply peroxide underwater with a diabetics syringe, slowly

the target oxygenation is still enough to affect the target algae, but this is the full on tank treatment it needs to be last resort, usually a little elbow grease in removing the rocks or draining the tank to the desired level is the best payoff

post pics!

 

[KafudaFish]

I remembered to check last night the the GHA is nice and white for the holidays.

I will get pics sometime this weekend and try and post next week.

Thanks.

 

[thebanker]

Thanks for the advice. Since I'm moving the tank in a month, maybe it's best to administer the death potion at that time, rather than playing a dangerous game now.

 

[frog.pauley]

I just finished moving all of my tank dwellers to their temp home . Gonna check U-tube vid now as well. Did take some pics of my tank, Bryopsis, hair algae, dino's! The works! I have every pest except cyano! LOL Gonna nuke everything. I found the underlying problem to be in my rock releasing huge quantities of crap!
Anways, I just started the first dose 10ml. I have 1 small ricordea that was superglued tight to a rock...we will see the effect. SWill update with pics and start my own thread with the results and the pics over the next couple weeks.

 

[brandon429]

if I had any wish for this thread it would be that every poster includes a before pic in their first post and an after pic of a spot treatment within a few posts.

 

[brandon429]

ReefMiser said I could use his pics, told him they had shock appeal and he said I could repost them. here's the opening shot that started the peroxide thread that led to hundreds of nano tanks being turned around by peroxide use. as soon as I saw them my problem with red brush algae ended.

 

[brad65ford]

I just finished moving all of my tank dwellers to their temp home . Gonna check U-tube vid now as well. Did take some pics of my tank, Bryopsis, hair algae, dino's! The works! I have every pest except cyano! LOL Gonna nuke everything. I found the underlying problem to be in my rock releasing huge quantities of crap!
Anways, I just started the first dose 10ml. I have 1 small ricordea that was superglued tight to a rock...we will see the effect. SWill update with pics and start my own thread with the results and the pics over the next couple weeks.

there isnt a popcorn smile but thats what Im thinking

 

[seanm001]

Any comments on the sensitivity of lysmata shrimp to peroxide? Specifically, all of my rocks are fixed and can't be removed from my 110 gal, but I have a few spots I'd like to treat to get bryopsis in check, maybe with a syringe. So, let's say I do that and end up using 0.5mL. Would that concentration be toxic to my cleaner shrimp?

 

[brandon429]

we have to assume it would, they appear very sensitive and I'd feel bad if you lost them because of the treatment. Given most of our testing is in nano reefs lacking the dilution you'd have, but Im shooting for a 100% success rate (no death) and those lysmatas just can't be controlled as easily.

the other option is to drain the tank down to the desired level with a $$ water change and treat the spots with 1 or 2 drops right on the target, wait, then refill. Id feel comfortable with that level of dilution but can't really think of any way other than that if the rocks absolutely can't be removed. use the reef laser option get some eyewear

 

[biecacka]

can a spot or target check be done in the tank??
corey

 

[biecacka]

just reread some post, not likely. I'm gonna try an pull a few rocks outcry

 

[brandon429]

I do mine in tank, but have no lysmata cleaners. my full tank shot on page two shows how many corals Im working with, a ton in a small space. I do in tank spot treatments all the time, ultimate convenience cuz my tank is easy to drain and expose the shot. post pics man if you do it!