pico reef pest algae problem challenge
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calistyle
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OK so, last week I removed 8G of water, applied 8ml of H202 targeting top rocks, waited 5 min, put backin 8G of old water...then a 5G water changed that night, followed by another 5G water change the following day.
The end result was this:
A week later (last night), I move on to 3ML of 3% H202 targeting worse area, and 10ml of 3:1 ratio H202 / Tank water scattered around top 2 rocks. 5G water change, another after work today. Here is what things are looking like today...
Day 1: Treatment 2 (1 treatment per week)
CleanerShrimp continues to be fine.
The end result was this:
A week later (last night), I move on to 3ML of 3% H202 targeting worse area, and 10ml of 3:1 ratio H202 / Tank water scattered around top 2 rocks. 5G water change, another after work today. Here is what things are looking like today...
Day 1: Treatment 2 (1 treatment per week)
CleanerShrimp continues to be fine.
I posted this pic yesterday and was planning to provide daily updates on this patch of bryopsis over the next couple of days...
When I got home from work and was ready to take my day 2 picture, I was blown away. I treated the patch around 9pm last night, got home around 4pm to this
All I can say is WOW!!!
Not really sure why it has turned that bright orange color but I'm sold on this method of treatment. I used a small syringe and treated just the problem area with about 3 syringes full of straight 3%. The acan was mad for about 5 minutes but is now as nice and puffy as ever.
Might have to sacrifice or move my cleaner shrimp for awhile and attempt a full tank dose.
When I got home from work and was ready to take my day 2 picture, I was blown away. I treated the patch around 9pm last night, got home around 4pm to this
All I can say is WOW!!!
Not really sure why it has turned that bright orange color but I'm sold on this method of treatment. I used a small syringe and treated just the problem area with about 3 syringes full of straight 3%. The acan was mad for about 5 minutes but is now as nice and puffy as ever.
Might have to sacrifice or move my cleaner shrimp for awhile and attempt a full tank dose.
glxtrix
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Honestly, if you can...pull your rock out and spray with a spray bottle filled with peroxide (on rocks that have corals) or dunk in peroxide if it's just a rock. It's faster than a full tank dose and you wont have to relocate anything. Your progress is looking great!
Brandon,
Can you provide a summary for dealing with dinos?
:debi:
Can you provide a summary for dealing with dinos?
:debi:
brandon429
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I do not want you to have to deal with them, start with pure denial cuz they are hideous.
let me at least link the good dino discussion from the chem forum for alternate ideas, I rate peroxide in my opinion as a good cure for them 50% of the time, not the higest ratio, but not terrible to try either.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962886&page=20
one of the last posters simply did the 1:10 dosing and zapped them. there are other preferred methods in that link though... If it was my tank here would be my action:
remove all dinos via siphon 100% clean
lights out solid for three days, plastic taped to tank lights out, not the half way of ambient room light getting in. starve em is my recommendation.
peek in once a day to see if spots are regrowing, then underwater spot injections right on them and or more siphon removal. my primary actions just based on reading threads is lights out moreso than peroxide, but as you can see 1:10 does work for some!
let me at least link the good dino discussion from the chem forum for alternate ideas, I rate peroxide in my opinion as a good cure for them 50% of the time, not the higest ratio, but not terrible to try either.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1962886&page=20
one of the last posters simply did the 1:10 dosing and zapped them. there are other preferred methods in that link though... If it was my tank here would be my action:
remove all dinos via siphon 100% clean
lights out solid for three days, plastic taped to tank lights out, not the half way of ambient room light getting in. starve em is my recommendation.
peek in once a day to see if spots are regrowing, then underwater spot injections right on them and or more siphon removal. my primary actions just based on reading threads is lights out moreso than peroxide, but as you can see 1:10 does work for some!
Trust me I think I was in denial and was focused on my algae issues that we discussed recently. I was hoping that by taking care of one the other would soon follow.
Nope.
Thanks for the link and I think it is time to do some reading.
I have done lights out before on other tanks with success and remember how good aquabucket's tank looked so I am not worried about that path.
Ever use your 35% on zoas and dinos directly?
Nope.
Thanks for the link and I think it is time to do some reading.
I have done lights out before on other tanks with success and remember how good aquabucket's tank looked so I am not worried about that path.
Ever use your 35% on zoas and dinos directly?
brandon429
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Yes I have, tried to kill my brown zoanthids and red shrooms with a ten min drain and treat direct application
Then they reproduced even more its these and Keith Richards...
Then they reproduced even more its these and Keith Richards...
Ok, I have to play the game 
Any natural born killer for blue clove polyps? We have a metric ton that we are not exactly sure how they got introduced. We think off a rock we purchased with green star polyps. I don't think the tabs are in store for us so I've been looking at creatures with that sort of appetite.
I mean they are not too bad if under control so I really don't care (look at the number of zoa's) but they are covering the poor zoa's. We wanted to add a couple different color frags of Montipora but will wait I guess.
Thanks for any tips or suggestions. I really don't want to remove the rocks out of the tank. I thought about it for a while after the bubble tip split then thought better of it. Not sure what I will do when that fella splits again.
Have a good day all.
Any natural born killer for blue clove polyps? We have a metric ton that we are not exactly sure how they got introduced. We think off a rock we purchased with green star polyps. I don't think the tabs are in store for us so I've been looking at creatures with that sort of appetite.
I mean they are not too bad if under control so I really don't care (look at the number of zoa's) but they are covering the poor zoa's. We wanted to add a couple different color frags of Montipora but will wait I guess.
Thanks for any tips or suggestions. I really don't want to remove the rocks out of the tank. I thought about it for a while after the bubble tip split then thought better of it. Not sure what I will do when that fella splits again.
Have a good day all.
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brandon429
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Thank you for posting! I truly think peroxide will not work for that. I will defer to the community for input on killing blue cloves, thanks for warning me to never buy some they look initially nice. thats what I thought about red shrooms too
brandon429
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I consider this a VERY helpful resource in any peroxide experimentation
the accidental, worst case scenario mega dose overdose w pics, heading over to nr.com to post there too. this documentation was invaluable, Id give anything to have him run an ammonia test after a large water change to assess the impact on bacterial populations, not the initial ammonia spike from bioload loss
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2258094
thanks to Disc1 from chem forum for calculation:
190 mls per 10 gallons
the accidental, worst case scenario mega dose overdose w pics, heading over to nr.com to post there too. this documentation was invaluable, Id give anything to have him run an ammonia test after a large water change to assess the impact on bacterial populations, not the initial ammonia spike from bioload loss
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2258094
thanks to Disc1 from chem forum for calculation:
190 mls per 10 gallons
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Anthony.Luciano
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Sorry I wasn't able to update in a while. I think the only way to really do this is as you said by taking out the rocks. I used 5 standard bottles of 3% peroxide water. I put a full bottle in every day for a week. It didn't do anything because the rocks are still covered. While I did this I also turned off filtration for an hour and just let the vortech circulate the water in the display.
brandon429
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thanks for that update Anthony I remember your tank from several pages back. if it didnt work in that diluted manner thats ok would you mind confirming any unintended losses if any...have any dead pods floating, dead micro stars, loss of lr benthics/sponges?
this inverse feedback is valuable as we continue to set ranges of known safety across reef tanks. whether or not it works on the target is clearly variable
this inverse feedback is valuable as we continue to set ranges of known safety across reef tanks. whether or not it works on the target is clearly variable
Anthony.Luciano
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The only thing I noticed were lps coral shriveled up for a few hours after I put in the bottle each day but then would be fine. SPS got a little pale but all still alive. I did have a mandarin goby that was living and I no longer see him around that tank. I can't confirm that this was the cause but I haven't seen him in weeks.
thanks for that update Anthony I remember your tank from several pages back. if it didnt work in that diluted manner thats ok would you mind confirming any unintended losses if any...have any dead pods floating, dead micro stars, loss of lr benthics/sponges?
this inverse feedback is valuable as we continue to set ranges of known safety across reef tanks. whether or not it works on the target is clearly variable
brandon429
Active member
thank you for feedback. so whats the next attack plan, there are other peroxide application modes and then theres magnesium boosting that gets a huge anecdotal following for a good reason
it might be nice for your large tank so you arent taking things apart to spot treat. then I could mention what is considered a cussword in this thread...phosphate control lol
it might be nice for your large tank so you arent taking things apart to spot treat. then I could mention what is considered a cussword in this thread...phosphate control lol
Anthony.Luciano
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I forgot to mention. I did buy some red slime remover power I believe it was called chemiclean. My friend told me it would get rid of green algae too but it didn't do anything. I used 600 gallons worth two times and it didn't do anything.
After closer examination, I always call it green hair algae but it is really bryopsis algae that is all over the rocks.
I am willing to try more things as long as they are not too expensive. Reason being, I am waiting on my top college choose acceptance result march 15th. If I get in I'll be going away and put the tank up for sale. If not I'll be going to a college where I can live home.
After closer examination, I always call it green hair algae but it is really bryopsis algae that is all over the rocks.
I am willing to try more things as long as they are not too expensive. Reason being, I am waiting on my top college choose acceptance result march 15th. If I get in I'll be going away and put the tank up for sale. If not I'll be going to a college where I can live home.
brandon429
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hey you should check out that guys overdosage thread. some things have survived 190 mls per ten gallons of peroxide addition in a mixed reef. to me its the most amazing peroxide post Ive ever read.
