pico reef pest algae problem challenge

Thank you those are great pics and going faster than predicted! Truly my only concern is the grow back rate, sometimes we get really lucky and it stays gone other times we consider this the initial lawn mowing and a concerted effort is required to keep it that way. Either way, your tang enjoys steamed veggies lol not raw ones its a repeating theme in peroxide threads, clean up crews start to pay attention after the roasting


The colors in your tank make me jealous, dark substrate, bright polyps and color pop its really a great system

That Bali slimer if thats what it is has heavily encrusted the base, nice biomass adding here
 
Hey everyone. About 2 weeks ago I followed Brandon's advice. Unfortunately most of my rocks are interlaced and I was afraid of hurting my tunnel burrowing YWG and pistol shrimp so I removed a couple of the looser top rocks to "experiment". As you can see from the pictures... it works! Parameters remained steady/normal and the only issue was a slight discoloration of a daisy polyp colony compared to the mother colony. Again.. you can see the difference between the treated/untreated rocks and the natural/discolored polyp colony. I think to treat the rest I may try dosing.. but again, do not want to cause harm. And yes.. I realize there is an aptasia problem.... that's next on my list.
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So its been a little over a week for me. I ended up re-aquascaping my whole tank, just so i could get to each rock with all of my algae one it. Before the peroxide i was battling a huge problem. Now that i have NUKED 95% on the HA, i feel like i have a running chance to concentrate on my coral now.
I have noticed a few things which i will discuss when i have pictures up, but overall i am very happy with the results, and lost NOTHING! But be careful when trying to attack HA that surrounds a frag. I used a syringe to try not to get it on the actual frag.
I found best results by letting the H202 sit on HA spots for a minute or two, then scrub with a tooth brush, pour more H202 on it, then rinse with tank water, and put back into display tank. Like i said i will post results this evening.
 
I noticed that where i didn't use the tooth brush to scrub, the byropis is slowly growing back. I will have to re-dose and scrub with tooth brush.
 
Lowe
Thank you very much for the follow up I hope this initial mowing gives you the upper hand! I imported your early before pic just to have a side by side:
 

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Green Algae Problem

Green Algae Problem

Hi All
Last night I posted that I had an Algae problem and Brandon was nice enough to tell me about this thread. Here is my problem most of my algae growth is on my gravel, what is the best way to attack this? I would like to dose my entire tank but I do have one clean shrimp and Calurpa in my refugium.
I have been changing 20gal every two week but that doesn't seem to help.
I use a GFO reactor tried different media but doesn't help.
I due dose my tank with volka 3ml daily.
Can I spot dose my gravel with peroxide with out removing it from my tank.
If so what strength should I use?
 

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Hi Luke thank you for stopping in


I hope you will see a recurring theme in the thread is algae kill even when not necessarily by peroxide. The posts here outline the possibility of whole tank dosing, especially the underwater spot injection techniques from the last six pages check those posts out in detail.

The cellophane capture might be especially suited for gravel use
Need more close up pics can't see the kind of algae but then again we said ID doesn't matter :) and it doesn't, we kill all kinds except neomeris and some deep seeded valonia lol sorry snakebyt pal from lubbock



But if your tank was mine I wouldn't start with peroxide

For all substrate invasions I start with dedicated removal of the patches of substrate via siphon or scoop

Small portions, this is nutrient releasing as it kicks up small clouds of waste. Change water well during your peroxide work, its a time of change for your tank you aren't keeping things the same and the captive reef will adapt. Be creative with peroxide work, ponder how you can get it in and out quickly, or any little side maintenance things you can do like detritus removal if you will already be deep into the tank anyway

Have a partner hold your siphon hose so when you scoop up a substrate sample for cleaning they are there to remove that waste cloud before it casts around. In tank use should almost always be a pumps off application technique. There should always be the initial test sample portion in any in tank work...we aren't jumping off and doing anyone's whole tank first pass.



Maybe do a small portion as peroxide underwater spot injection, then the bulk as manual removal of substrate portions with clean and replace, see which patch looks better after a week before evaluating the whole tank as a peroxide method fix

I'm always thinking manually remove more than you dose in tank, those who test that mode on a small section vs running whole tank right off the bat nearly always revert back to external treatments at least as the initial kill.

You correctly id'd the sensitive animals in your tank so thats either a quarantine date or let's go cold turkey on this bad boy and see if they survive. For any in tank work I predict the sensitive species will not.


Also consider this variable

I don't recall anyone in fifty pages dosing vodka or any other carbon source in conjunction with peroxide

Its uncharted

*thank you* for mentioning that my concern is a future date in tank doser will forget to mention that practice or exceptional chemistry situations where people target high end alk parameters. Perhaps its harmless like a lot of the aspects of peroxide use, don't know.

What does the peroxide do to your bacterial complexes which are the key association with vsv methods? Anyone answering that pro or con is a guessing man or lady, its not been formally studied in marine aquaria. none of this has, we get first documentation among many web threads where others post their findings with in tank peroxide work

Your tank can be as experimental as you like, but if we brainstorm and type first, before work, your tank comes out safe like the rest

I recommend all in tank dosers consider the effects to their tank of stopping vsv work, heavy photoperiods/intensity for high level in tank dosing (recall some of our calculated upper limit doses were in excess of 4 mls per ten gallons) lowering high alkalinity maintenance which is a known stressor to sps, and we start brainstorming anything that interacts with oxygen content or free radical production as separate from in tank peroxide work and not to be ran at the same time

If ceasing a current method of major tank chemistry support would stress your tank, I can't see how adding peroxide to the mix will help things. Consider this before starting.

My tank doesn't use any alcohol help we just down a bunch of 35% up in here let no keeper judge another's crutch lol

Using more gfo and phosphate stripping is not recommended as a recurring theme in this thread. We are removers, those are preventers. Some have success with any method of algae control, algal turf guys can starve it off your rocks. Nutrient restrictors can starve it. Grazer specialist will have it picked clean regardless of the po4 levels in your tank, the key is what is right for your tank.

Rather than convince anyone to try this, I recommend you do all others first.
 
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Brandon
Thanks for the post
Whenever I do a water change ever 2 weeks I siphon out the patches of gravel that have algae growing, however I have been siphoning the gravel the algae comes back. My gravel bed is very low because I dumped out a lot of gravel. How would you recommend to dose my gravel, you mentioned spot dosing but how much is to much and I have a lot of affected gravel. Should I straight peroxide or dilute it 50/50? Should I remove my shrimp and calurpa from my sump for a while? After I treat the gravel should I do a water change ASAP?
 
In the last six pages we talk about the application doses and ways to use tarping etc its all there
It was underwater spot treatments with the pumps off

But only one single tiny section as a test

Wait a week see what it does

Just do that first, a single test section from any technique mentioned starting six pages ago up until now, we cover the in tank and external treatment options and dilutions

Worry about the whole tank later, spot test a section first make before and after pics of just one section
 
can u put the peroxide in a spray bottle? would this be quicker? and a better alternative to dunking... this might be the thread that just saved my tank :-0
 
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i also qt'd the mushroom rock. and picked off all i could before the algae
then double shotted it with 3% hydrogen peroxide
 
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hey can u tell me what this is? is this brush algae? its all over the back of my tank now for a 2.5 weeks now. - just the otherday it covered my magnet . which was really scary .
what do i need to do? do i need to drain my whole tank - whipe it all ? squirt on my rocks - then replace?
ill take pics tomorrow of my sandbed O_O
my wife thinks the tank is fine - i feel like we are doomed unless we get on it soon
going to get LFS water monday for the tank - and have someone check out my RO machine next week.
 
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Algae on gravel

Algae on gravel

Hi Brandon
Its been a few days since my post.
Here are my pics of my tank. Tomorrow I am going to try target dosing a part of my gravel in my tank.
I am doing a water change so why not try it.
I started to read the thread at page 53, can you tell me what is the saran wrap method and medicated bottle method is? I also read that 1ml per 10 gal is recommend is that correct, my tank is a 90 gal so can I do 9ml?
I have attacked a few pic of my tank, my main algae growth is on the bottom where the gravel is, I have a little on the rocks but not that much. When I do my water change which is every 2 weeks I take out about 25 gal, I always siphon out the gravel, but this algae always comes back.
 

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V10 thank you for the update and nice to meet you! LS90 those little patches should be so easy to get...you lay a square of saran wrap on that area, weight it down with rocks, inject the 9ml factored against your sensitive animals right up under the tarp pumps off
 
Hello, this is an update from page 56.

I can say without a doubt that peroxide saved my coral! The bazooka joe has rebounded and is growing ever since I started H2O2 treatments. This is the 1st time it has grown in a year and a half.

Since my last post I have changed the method of application. First I put H202 in a container, just enough to cover the bottom. Next I take the coral out of the tank and dry it; i dab the disc and everything but the coral with a paper towel. Then I place the coral in the container, the H2O2 level is usually lower than the disc. I take a small paint brush and dip it in the H202. I "paint" all areas except the coral flesh. But I do make sure to get the edges of the coral and it does not harm it at all. Then I place it back in the tank, no rinsing. I do this in under 2 miuites because I don't want to keep it out of the water too long. I treat when I need to, when algae is on the frag. So far so good! My coral is growing and I no longer have aglae surrounding the edges restricting it. I can post pics of the method if you want.

Bad news is the dinos are back, even after a 2 month black out and H2O2 treatments of the rocks outside the tank. Some how they survived, i think in all the holes in the rocks. My PO4 is 0, and NO3 is 0.5 I think I need do a complete restart. Im planning to dry the tank and sump completly for a week and start over with dry rock. But I may wait till my all corals grow a bit more. Hope this helps out someone. Thanks

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after treatment
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dinos in tank
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=8305&pictureid=58858
 
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