PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Thanks, snorvich... a few questions:

1. What type of filtration would you then recommend? Canister? Sump? I'll have to start with this, but maybe can upgrade it before I add fish.

This thread is about fish: compatibility with each other and the environment provided. Pose a separate question in New to the hobby and you should get a lot of help

2. 4 green chromis actually come with the tank already... so maybe I won't add the 5th, and I'll just see what happens with the 4 that are coming with the setup. Should I only school the cardinals, or can I school something else (suggestion)?

Well neither fish will actually school and your tank is not of a size to be trying to create shoals. Cardinals are primarily nocturnal and in the long run will pair up rather than shoal.

3. I am getting the peppermint shrimp primarily because I already know that the tank has a population of aips. After doing the research, I decided the peppermint shrimp were my preferred way of dealing with, and controlling them. Can I get both cleaner shrimp and peppermint shrimp?

You can get both. Peppermint shrimp may or may not help with aiptasia. Also be careful that you get true peppermints as there are similars being sold that are not reef safe

4. Mini brittle stars it is. I do not want the mushrooms to take over the tank... some kinda polyp... button... better choice, iyo?

Wait until you are farther along, then ask the question as a separate thread in NTTH

And finally...

5. Is there maybe another very showy fish I can add, that maybe I'm not thinking of, that you could point towards checking out?

Our tastes and budget differ, so I almost never recommend fish, but will comment on stocking lists

Thanks for the great advice. I do really appreciate it.

My pleasure

-Rich

 

[snorvich]

Sorry, I think I missed this one

I'm taking some time before adding any fish to my 30g tank. I had a distastrous experience wherein I lost two fish (Flame Hawk, Royal Gramma) because of beginner's mistakes.

But during that process I noticed that the rather small, tank-bred clown was harrassing (not really biting or attacking) the basslet on a regular basis.

Is this because it has lived alone in the tank for several years? (I inherited this tank and I did rearrange the aquascaping before I added the fish)

It is because clowns get ornery/aggressive once they sexually differentiate and yours is likely now a female

Can you recommend a good fish that can hold it's own? Is that kind of behavior from the clown something that would dissipate after a while?

We don't really recommend fish as our tastes and budgets are likely different. We can comment on your choices, however

Would I be better off with a bottom / cave dweller such as a blenny or goby?

Assuming sand, a shrimp goby pair is always interesting

 

[A_Z]

alright I should be fine with one anthias then right?

which is the hardiest and most suitable to my tank (75g), Bartletts, Squareback, Lyretail or Bicolor?

 

[snorvich]

alright I should be fine with one anthias then right?

which is the hardiest and most suitable to my tank (75g), Bartletts, Squareback, Lyretail or Bicolor?

One is fine. Lyretail or Bartletts.

 

[timskloss]

Adding inverts to fowlr

Adding inverts to fowlr

Time to add more life to my 100 gal corner tank. My 120# of LR I cured back in May has exploded with interesting life including tiny soft corals, tube worms and sponges. I don't want newbies to eat this stuff, only the little tufts of green and red hair algae.

I want a peaceful tank and so far have 3 chromis, 2 ocillaris and a maroon clown that lives in a 8 inch wide GBTA. Snails include nassarius and Cerith. No new guys in two months and tank chemistry is good.

Would any of the following break the peace or eat the furniture?

Snowflake eel
Reef lobster
Cleaner shrimp
Flame angel
Brittle star

Thanks for all your great advice!

 

[snorvich]

Time to add more life to my 100 gal corner tank. My 120# of LR I cured back in May has exploded with interesting life including tiny soft corals, tube worms and sponges. I don't want newbies to eat this stuff, only the little tufts of green and red hair algae.

I want a peaceful tank and so far have 3 chromis, 2 ocillaris and a maroon clown that lives in a 8 inch wide GBTA.

Three clowns will not survive long term in a 100 gallon tank

Snails include nassarius and Cerith. No new guys in two months and tank chemistry is good.

Would any of the following break the peace or eat the furniture?

Snowflake eel Not for a peaceful tank
Reef lobster Not reef safe
Cleaner shrimp Excellent
Flame angel Not LPS safe
Brittle star Mini brittle stars are excellent, green brittle stars eat fish

Thanks for all your great advice!

 

[Sanveann]

Hi, Steve! Thanks for the great thread -- I've learned so much

We are still in the inverts-only stage of our tank, but are hoping to get a plan together for our fish. This is what we're thinking:

* One yellow watchman goby
* One or two ocellaris clowns (not sure if it's best to have a pair, or just to keep one)
* One flasher wrasse (recommendations welcome, if you have a preference)
* One foxface lo
* One royal gramma

Tank is 75G, Octopus Reef BH1000 skimmer, no sump (hoping to add one later), about 65 pounds of live rock and 3" of sand. No corals as of yet, but hoping to add them down the road, once we get more experienced. Current residents are one emerald crab, one peppermint shrimp, and a handful of nassarius and tiger trochus snails.

I'd also appreciate any advice you have on the order we should add our fish in

 

[snorvich]

Hi, Steve! Thanks for the great thread -- I've learned so much

Terrific, that is why we do this

We are still in the inverts-only stage of our tank, but are hoping to get a plan together for our fish. This is what we're thinking:

* One yellow watchman goby
* One or two ocellaris clowns (not sure if it's best to have a pair, or just to keep one)
* One flasher wrasse (recommendations welcome, if you have a preference)

Well, I like them all so whichever appearance appeals, that is what you should select. You have room for a pair if you can acquire a female

* One foxface lo
* One royal gramma

I think your list is fine. Foxface need to be well fed or they can be non reef safe

Tank is 75G, Octopus Reef BH1000 skimmer, no sump (hoping to add one later), about 65 pounds of live rock and 3" of sand. No corals as of yet, but hoping to add them down the road, once we get more experienced. Current residents are one emerald crab, one peppermint shrimp, and a handful of nassarius and tiger trochus snails.

I am not big on any crabs. Crabs can get large and become interest in fish. Even small hermits can kill snails for their shells

I'd also appreciate any advice you have on the order we should add our fish in

Foxface last. If you do two clowns, next to last; however the downside to two clowns is that sexually mature pairs are aggressive. Also you might consider cleaner shrimp as they clean up food well.

 

[Sanveann]

Thanks, Steve! So do you prefer just one clown, then? And if we just get one, does order matter much?

I'm thinking going something like this:

1. Goby
2. Clown (we have three little kids who desperately want a Nemo!)
3. Gramma
4. Wrasse(s)
5. Foxface

The crab is super tiny ... we plan to keep a close eye on him and possibly put him in the sump/fuge when we get one, if he becomes a problem. My husband just had his heart set on him, which is why I caved, and I have to admit he's a cute little guy.

We do plan on adding more of a CuC ... a few more snails and some cleaner shrimp as well. They will get along with our peppermint, won't they? (Very fond of him, as he's taken out our aiptasia as soon as they cropped up!)

 

[unfamous]

Okay, gimmie so ideas!

90 gal, FOWLR, 3" sand base, 50 lbs mixed LR, 30 lbs dry rock, 12"x30"x8" deep sump with LR in sump. Tank is in cycle but figured I'd start looking around for ideas.

I would like 2 small Clowns to start with. I understand they stay near the bottom. Not real sure what else. Maybe a mid depth fish and a top dweller. Really only want about 5 fish in the tank anyway. I saw a Foxface that looked kinda neat and they claim its a peacefull fish. NO FIGHTING IN MY TANK!!! Maybe a RS Tang? I'll have a cucumber or two and maybe a peppermint shrimp or 3 as well a snails for a CUC.

Please offer suggestions and reasoning.

THANKS!

 

[KendallC]

I have a 55gal and plan on getting a snowflake eel, yellow tang, 2 ocellaris clowns,one firefish,one blue/green reef chromis, a tiger striped sea star,3 turbo snails,some shrimp and some hermit crabs.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks, Steve! So do you prefer just one clown, then? And if we just get one, does order matter much?

I'm thinking going something like this:

1. Goby
2. Clown (we have three little kids who desperately want a Nemo!)
3. Gramma
4. Wrasse(s)
5. Foxface

That order is fine. One clown is better than two especially if only to keep your kids happy (just don't think about Dory)

The crab is super tiny ... we plan to keep a close eye on him and possibly put him in the sump/fuge when we get one, if he becomes a problem. My husband just had his heart set on him, which is why I caved, and I have to admit he's a cute little guy.

We do plan on adding more of a CuC ... a few more snails and some cleaner shrimp as well. They will get along with our peppermint, won't they? (Very fond of him, as he's taken out our aiptasia as soon as they cropped up!)

Yes, cleaner shrimp should not even notice peppermints

 

[snorvich]

Okay, gimmie so ideas!

90 gal, FOWLR, 3" sand base, 50 lbs mixed LR, 30 lbs dry rock, 12"x30"x8" deep sump with LR in sump. Tank is in cycle but figured I'd start looking around for ideas.

I would like 2 small Clowns to start with. I understand they stay near the bottom. Not real sure what else. Maybe a mid depth fish and a top dweller. Really only want about 5 fish in the tank anyway. I saw a Foxface that looked kinda neat and they claim its a peacefull fish. NO FIGHTING IN MY TANK!!! Maybe a RS Tang? I'll have a cucumber or two and maybe a peppermint shrimp or 3 as well a snails for a CUC.

Please offer suggestions and reasoning.

THANKS!

RS Tang? (what is that?) If you mean a hepatus tang, you would need a much larger tank. We don't do suggestions as your taste and budget are not the same as ours.

 

[unfamous]

Okay, RS as described on various online stores including sponsors here means REEF SAFE or docile, non aggressive. I have read many of the posts pertaining to what some conceder too small of a tank. I do subscribe to this, but nearly all of the mentioned online stores suggest that some do quite well in 90 gallon tanks. I understand you reasoning and I WILL keep this in mind when it comes time to decide. Most of the books I have read also state a 90 as a minimum size for them.

I also find it hard to believe that no one offers suggestions no matter cost or taste. This site it full of just that. Buy this pump/powerhead/whatever because it's the best is in nearly every thread. I came here asking what you folks with experience suggest because I don't want to make a mistake and kill a living creature or combine some that might harm each other. I will make my own choice and won't bother asking you again. Thanks.

 

[snorvich]

Okay, RS as described on various online stores including sponsors here means REEF SAFE or docile, non aggressive. I have read many of the posts pertaining to what some conceder too small of a tank. I do subscribe to this, but nearly all of the mentioned online stores suggest that some do quite well in 90 gallon tanks. I understand you reasoning and I WILL keep this in mind when it comes time to decide. Most of the books I have read also state a 90 as a minimum size for them.

RS used in "reef safe" is not common usage. And by the way reef safe and docile are no way synonymous. Online stores sell fish, we do not. Closest to being accurate about tank size is Drs. Foster and Smith.

I also find it hard to believe that no one offers suggestions no matter cost or taste. This site it full of just that. Buy this pump/powerhead/whatever because it's the best is in nearly every thread. I came here asking what you folks with experience suggest because I don't want to make a mistake and kill a living creature or combine some that might harm each other. I will make my own choice and won't bother asking you again. Thanks.

I buy top of the line equipment, most people do not. I also have fish that cost 4 figures, most do not. And finally I have about 1000 gallons of tank space, most do not. Many people will suggest "buy this or buy that" but you need to understand their perspective in suggesting X or Y.

And finally, lose the attitude. I am (was) trying to help you.

 

[snorvich]

I have a 55gal and plan on getting a snowflake eel, yellow tang, 2 ocellaris clowns,one firefish,one blue/green reef chromis, a tiger striped sea star,3 turbo snails,some shrimp and some hermit crabs.

That is way too much bioload for that tank size. Also a tang or eel of that size will not do well in that sized tank. Sea stars will starve in that sized tank.

 

[pickles1994]

fish advice for my 70L salt water tank

fish advice for my 70L salt water tank

Hey everyone
I have only just started my marine tank 4 days ago, i need some advice on what type of fish species i should get, could you please look at this video of my tank and let me know what fish would be suitable thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2Qjji9NeE

 

[unfamous]

Not going to get into a flame match. I came hear to learn how not to make mistakes. You showed me an attitude I simply reciprocated. This isn't my first forum. My post count may be low and my lowly 90 gallon tank may not excite you. You assume that others don't buy good equipment and that they can't afford your extravigant tastes. Just because someone is just starting doesn't mean they are complete idiots or poor or trying to cut corners. FWIW, Fosters and Smith use the term "reef safe" and the last time I looked they set a minimum tank size for the fish in question as 90 gallons.

Goodbye

 

[snorvich]

Hey everyone
I have only just started my marine tank 4 days ago, i need some advice on what type of fish species i should get, could you please look at this video of my tank and let me know what fish would be suitable thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2Qjji9NeE

This thread is about fish compatibility with each other and with the environment provided. We do not make recommendations because our taste and budget will not coincide

 

[snorvich]

Not going to get into a flame match. I came hear to learn how not to make mistakes. You showed me an attitude I simply reciprocated. This isn't my first forum. My post count may be low and my lowly 90 gallon tank may not excite you. You assume that others don't buy good equipment and that they can't afford your extravigant tastes. Just because someone is just starting doesn't mean they are complete idiots or poor or trying to cut corners. FWIW, Fosters and Smith use the term "reef safe" and the last time I looked they set a minimum tank size for the fish in question as 90 gallons.

Goodbye

This particular thread provides information about fish compatibility with each other (according to whatever stocking list you provide) and with the environment you provide. There are many other places on RC to get opinions and recommendations; those are discussion threads, this one is not.

Dr. Foster and Smith does not use the abbreviation of "RS" although they do use terms "Reef Safe" and "Reef Safe with Caution.

There will be no flame wars. We simply do not tolerate that on this board and if you want to do that I suggest patronizing another board. I did not give you attitude, I simply tried to explain the purpose of this particular thread. And I definitely suggest that going to a different thread would be best for you. You seem to be looking for trouble, so you might reexamine how you come across.