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[A_Z]

thanks I think this is my final list. 75g w/20g sump/Refugium

added in order

Blue/Green Chromis
Occ Clown (False Perc)
Yellow Clown Goby
Lyretail anthias
Flame Wrasse Terminal male
Lineatus Wrasse Terminal male
Spotted Mandarin (once mature)*
Marginalis Butterflyfish (once mature 6 months +)**
Kole or similar small peaceful tang

Inverts: (not really a mixed reef just some easy corals might as well)
Leather Coral
Clove Coral
Hawaiian Feather Duster
Cleaner Shrimp
CUC

*I know an importer for the Marginalis Butterflyfish who gets these, which is great news, true no butterfly is not truely really reef safe but hopefully this one won't nip as I have heard they are generally fine for non stony reefs or non meaty corals
**Is it ok to have this and the mandarin? How much LR to sustain both do you think it would take?

thank you

 

[liamblair1987]

Hey guys... currently running with a 500Litre main tank with a 80Litre sump. about 100 + Kilograms liverock.

Stocking at the moment
- 1 x Strawberry dottyback (Pseudochromis porphyreus)
- 3 x Blue Damsel (Chrysiptera cyanea)
- 1 x Blue Linckia Star (Linckia laevigata)
- 1 x Australian Big Polyp Blastomussa (Blastomussa wellsi)

The tank has been running just over 8 months and the fish and blasto are doing quite nicely..i just want to go with the less is more approach and focus on making sure i can control all fish in the tank instead of having too many fish and losing control on each individual and there requirements for healthy living.

I'm at a crossroads as to whether maintain fish only or start loading more corals/inverts.

so stocking wish list comprises of
- 1 x Flame angel (Centropyge loriculus)
- 1 x Niger trigger ( Odonus niger) or Picasso trigger (Rhinecanthus aculeatus)
- 2/3 x Auriga Butterfly (Chaetodon auriga)or Double Saddle Butterfly (Chaetodon ulietensis) or Raccoon Butterflyfish (Chaetodon lunula)
- 1 x Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
- 1 x Flame Hawkfish (Neocirrhitus armatus)
- 1 x Random Nudibranch
- 1 x Australian Sea Apple (Pseudocolochirus axilogus)
- 1 x Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Lysmata debelius)

I understand the angel/butterfly/trigger combos mean the chances of having any sort of corals go out the window. Is there any possible way to keep snails/shrimp and corals with these guys without them getting chomped on?

Actively making sure all fish are fed properly, will they still naturally go and chew on these guys? (i would love some sort of cleaner shrimp)

Is this amount of fish way too many for this size tank?

Will the Blenny and Hawkfish be able to hold there own with all fish in this tank?

Are Hermit crabs too aggressive as a cleanup alternative? even in this size tank? will they become a snack for a trigger?

Thanks for all your input!

 

[M88A2]

Just wanted to run my revised stock list to see if it will work and also if there is an order inwhich i should add them. I have a 75g with 20g sump/fuge.

2 ocellaris clowns
1 yellowfin flasher wrasse
1 mcoskers flasher wrasse
1 dot and dash flasher wrasse
1 blue flasher wrasse
1 filamented flasher wrasse
1 rose velvet fairy wrasse
1 pink margin fairy wrasse
1 lubbocks fairy wrasse
1 blue head fairy wrasse

It seems like it might be too many fish to me but a fellow reefer told me it was ok

 

[snorvich]

thanks I think this is my final list. 75g w/20g sump/Refugium

added in order

Blue/Green Chromis
Occ Clown (False Perc)
Yellow Clown Goby
Lyretail anthias
Flame Wrasse Terminal male
Lineatus Wrasse Terminal male
Spotted Mandarin (once mature)*
Marginalis Butterflyfish (once mature 6 months +)**
Kole or similar small peaceful tang

Inverts: (not really a mixed reef just some easy corals might as well)
Leather Coral
Clove Coral
Hawaiian Feather Duster
Cleaner Shrimp
CUC

*I know an importer for the Marginalis Butterflyfish who gets these, which is great news, true no butterfly is not truely really reef safe but hopefully this one won't nip as I have heard they are generally fine for non stony reefs or non meaty corals
**Is it ok to have this and the mandarin? How much LR to sustain both do you think it would take?

thank you

I think it is pretty good. Maybe a bit heavy with larger fish for that sized tank. C. Marginalis are excellent fish but be sure to get a healthy one and QT.

 

[snorvich]

Hey guys... currently running with a 500Litre main tank with a 80Litre sump. about 100 + Kilograms liverock.

Stocking at the moment
- 1 x Strawberry dottyback (Pseudochromis porphyreus) Potentially very aggressive to newcomers
- 3 x Blue Damsel (Chrysiptera cyanea) Again, very aggressive to new fish
- 1 x Blue Linckia Star (Linckia laevigata)
- 1 x Australian Big Polyp Blastomussa (Blastomussa wellsi)

The tank has been running just over 8 months and the fish and blasto are doing quite nicely..i just want to go with the less is more approach and focus on making sure i can control all fish in the tank instead of having too many fish and losing control on each individual and there requirements for healthy living.

I'm at a crossroads as to whether maintain fish only or start loading more corals/inverts.

so stocking wish list comprises of
- 1 x Flame angel (Centropyge loriculus)
- 1 x Niger trigger ( Odonus niger) or Picasso trigger (Rhinecanthus aculeatus) Can be peaceful or aggressive, but more likely the latter. Gets to be large
- 2/3 x Auriga Butterfly (Chaetodon auriga)or Double Saddle Butterfly (Chaetodon ulietensis) or Raccoon Butterflyfish (Chaetodon lunula)

Definitely not reef safe, and must be quarantined

- 1 x Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
- 1 x Flame Hawkfish (Neocirrhitus armatus) Great fish but not shrimp safe
- 1 x Random Nudibranch Which eats what?
- 1 x Australian Sea Apple (Pseudocolochirus axilogus) Difficult to feed and potentially toxic with triggers
- 1 x Blood Red Fire Shrimp (Lysmata debelius) Not safe with a red flame hawk

I understand the angel/butterfly/trigger combos mean the chances of having any sort of corals go out the window. Is there any possible way to keep snails/shrimp and corals with these guys without them getting chomped on?

Probably not

Actively making sure all fish are fed properly, will they still naturally go and chew on these guys? (i would love some sort of cleaner shrimp)

Is this amount of fish way too many for this size tank?

When you put large fish such as a trigger in a smaller tank, the tank will look crowded. But even from a bioload perspective you are running a bit high

Will the Blenny and Hawkfish be able to hold there own with all fish in this tank?

Yes

Are Hermit crabs too aggressive as a cleanup alternative? even in this size tank? will they become a snack for a trigger?

Probably. I prefer all snails and shrimp but you have fish which preclude shrimp

Thanks for all your input!

 

[snorvich]

Just wanted to run my revised stock list to see if it will work and also if there is an order inwhich i should add them. I have a 75g with 20g sump/fuge.

2 ocellaris clowns
1 yellowfin flasher wrasse
1 mcoskers flasher wrasse
1 dot and dash flasher wrasse
1 blue flasher wrasse
1 filamented flasher wrasse
1 rose velvet fairy wrasse
1 pink margin fairy wrasse Aggressive
1 lubbocks fairy wrasse
1 blue head fairy wrasse Aggressive, not recommended

It seems like it might be too many fish to me but a fellow reefer told me it was ok

Yes, in my opinion it is too many fish for your sized tank. If you subtract the aggressive fairy wrasses you should be ok.

 

[cincyjim]

Can I have a foxface with...

Can I have a foxface with...

Is it possible to have a blue hippo, a coral beauty, and a foxface in the same tank? The only future fish I plan to add would be a clown and a couple of small non-aggressive fish.

Currently I have:
1 blue hippo,
1 coral beauty,
1 Lawnmower blenney,
hermit crabs and snails,
1 emerald crab,
2 cleaner shrimp,
3 peppermint shrimp.

75 gallon (about 8 weeks old)
live rock and sand
20 gallon sump

Thanks!
Jim

 

[snorvich]

Is it possible to have a blue hippo, a coral beauty, and a foxface in the same tank? The only future fish I plan to add would be a clown and a couple of small non-aggressive fish.

Currently I have:
1 blue hippo, Well this fish really needs a 10 foot tank, it grows to one foot and becomes progressively aggressive
1 coral beauty,
1 Lawnmower blenney,
hermit crabs and snails,
1 emerald crab,
2 cleaner shrimp,
3 peppermint shrimp.

75 gallon (about 8 weeks old)
live rock and sand
20 gallon sump

Thanks!

I don't see a problem with a foxface and coral beauty, but the hepatus tang is a problem

Jim

 

[snorvich]

75 gallon (about 8 weeks old)
live rock and sand
20 gallon sump

Thanks!
Jim

I noticed your tank age and stocking level. I think you need to go slower. Also, Hepatus tangs are ich magnets so I hope you quarantined it.

 

[cincyjim]

Thanks for the reply. I have read a lot on the forum here that patience is the key to success with salt water tanks. I'll wait awhile before picking one up. Any idea/best guess how long I should wait to put another fish in the tank?

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for the reply. I have read a lot on the forum here that patience is the key to success with salt water tanks. I'll wait awhile before picking one up. Any idea/best guess how long I should wait to put another fish in the tank?

Given that you do not quarantine (although we recommend that you do) I would suggest six weeks in between fish to make sure that there are no issues with the existing embedded base

 

[cincyjim]

I didn't quarantine as you had stated and I honestly didn't know I was supposed to. Of course after the fact is always too late but I did learn a lesson and luckily it wasn't at the expense of any fish. I do appreciate the advice and as hard as it will be, I will wait on adding another fish.

 

[snorvich]

I didn't quarantine as you had stated and I honestly didn't know I was supposed to. Of course after the fact is always too late but I did learn a lesson and luckily it wasn't at the expense of any fish. I do appreciate the advice and as hard as it will be, I will wait on adding another fish.

I have been there and it is not easy doing the right thing. There are some stickies in this forum that are useful to you or you can read some of my blog entries for additional information.

 

[liamblair1987]

Thanks for the input. I think ill just scrap the idea with triggers go with some butterfly 2 or 3? the blenny and hawkfish...and have a think about the flame angel and chuck some snails in there aswell. is that revised list a better option bioload wise?

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for the input. I think ill just scrap the idea with triggers go with some butterfly 2 or 3? the blenny and hawkfish...and have a think about the flame angel and chuck some snails in there aswell. is that revised list a better option bioload wise?

Yes, that would help a lot.

 

[cincyjim]

Any suggestions of what I could put in with the blue hippo or is it too late at this point? Thanks.

 

[snorvich]

Any suggestions of what I could put in with the blue hippo or is it too late at this point? Thanks.

Unfortunately, it is difficult to give advice once a fish is in the tank. So sorry. That is why the thread is about checking BEFORE adding a fish

 

[ufgators2k]

Need Help Picking a Few Livestock Additions

Need Help Picking a Few Livestock Additions

I have a 75g Reef Tank, 10g Sump (building a 29g w/ refug. soon), 70lbs Live Rock (waiting on more), with the following inhabitants:

Fish
2 clowns
1 Yellow Watchman
1 Sleeper Blue Dot Goby
3 Firefish
1 Melanurus Wrasse
1 Sailfin Tang

Coral
Frogspawn, Ricordia, Maze Brain, Star Polyp, Zoos

I want to add a Flame Angel and I have thought about adding a Foxface as well. Thoughts?

 

[snorvich]

I have a 75g Reef Tank, 10g Sump (building a 29g w/ refug. soon), 70lbs Live Rock (waiting on more), with the following inhabitants:

Fish
2 clowns
1 Yellow Watchman
1 Sleeper Blue Dot Goby
3 Firefish Firefish do not do well long term as multiples except as bonded pairs
1 Melanurus Wrasse
1 Sailfin Tang Your tank is not large enough for this fish

Coral
Frogspawn, Ricordia, Maze Brain, Star Polyp, Zoos

I want to add a Flame Angel and I have thought about adding a Foxface as well. Thoughts?

A flame angel may be fine, a second large fish will not

 

[Mylilreef]

in the next month or so i will have my 150g mixed reef (very few if any SPS) tank with 30g sump up & running along with a separate 20g tall. everything from my current 55g, 30g tank (to be made into the sump), & fish from my quarantine/kenya tree forrest, lol (i know if i ever have to medicate they will be gone, but no big loss) will be transfered over. about 200lb of live rock and about 100lb of live sand.

so i have 2 setups and lists with the ability to kind of move things around.

current fish in quarantine:
1 pair of ORA Spotcinctus (A. bicinctus) - I do believe they are a mated pair as they were purchased at the LFS as the only two ordered in, were maybe 1" at time of purchase, have been in the same quarantine together for almost 6 months, and are showing what looks to me like mating behavior? I don't know for sure as i have never before had a pair of clowns until these two.

current fish in 30g:
1 sixline wrasse
1 very large 4-stripe damsel (he's going to be a sump/refugium fish since i had to remove him from the 55g because of aggression issues)

contents of 55g:
1 ORA Ocellaris (been alone for over 7 years)
1 gold spotted rabbitfish
1 sailfin tang (these two are best buds & race eachother back & forth)
1 McCoskers Flasher Wrasse
1 Engineer Goby/Convict Blenny (guess it depends who you ask)


In the 150g i would like to put:
1 pair of ORA Spotcinctus
1 convict blenny
1 gold spotted rabbitfish
1 sailfin tang
1 mccokers flasher wrasse

things I would like to add:
my 1 sixline wrasse (not sure if he would get along with the mccoskers wrasse? introduced to the tank later?)
3 Royal Gramma (I've heard that they get along in multiples in a big enough tank, also not sure how they would do with the wrasses)
2 of these tangs (been looking at orange shoulder, naso, & atlantic blue)

the Ocellaris will be a resident of the 20g and if need be maybe 1 of the wrasses.