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Ok was thinking about this list for my 225. 55 gal sump w/ refugium. this is just the first run so let me know what is a no no. thanks for the input!

1. Blue Throat Trigger
2. Niger Trigger Niger triggers can be relatively docile or super aggressive depending on the fish
3. Mated Clown pair depending on species this can be fine or super aggressive (GSM)
4. Blue Dot Jawfish or Lawnmower Blenny. I read you cannot have both please advise... Blue spot jawfish is a great fish but does best long term if temperatures are more around 74-75 F since they are collected in the Sea of Cortez
5. Naso Tang Really would do better in a longer tank
6. Purple/Yellow/Scorpas Tang...one of those not all. Purple and yellow will be aggressive towards any additions especially other tangs
7. Pajama Cardinals or Lyretail Anthias. I want a schooling fish and would like it to be one of these Well neither will really "school", but anthias will shoal until they have multiple males then each male will herd his females
8. GDM
I also was thinking about a Flame Angel or Coral Beauty but do not want crazy overcrowding and unhappy fish...Let me know what you think..Thank you
The dwarf angels will do fine, the triggers are more likely to be problematic depending on aggression level, and with at least three "largish" fish your tank despite being on the larger side may look "crowded" especially with a mature naso tang of any species
 
Thank you for the input. Would a Bimac. anthias be too aggressive as well then? The leopard is pretty bold; was out, swimming, and eating frozen foods immediately after introduction.

Any other suggestions?
 
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Wow Thank you for the very fast reply! This is truly a fantastic place to find information. As for the Naso, I take it that is a no go! Reading your various responses on here I see you favor Anthias. I like them as well. How many of the Lyretail could I comfortably add with that bioload of fish? As for tangs, I am really at a loss as what to add. I would like 1 but want him happy in a tank that size. Would a Chevron be ok? Maybe with a Powder Brown. How is the load for this size? I really do not want overcrowding so maybe just the trigger and the chevron for the larger fish. Please feel free to dig in and let me have it..I can take the tough love! Thanks again for everything you do!
 
Thank you for the input. Would a Bimac. anthias be too aggressive as well then? The leopard is pretty bold; was out, swimming, and eating frozen foods immediately after introduction.

Any other suggestions?

Anthias will not interact with leopard wrasses since they do not inhabit the same ecological niche. However other wrasses will and leopard wrasses will interact with mandarins negatively. Anthias, however, like larger (longer) tanks ideally with flow since their natural environment is hovering over a reef when the current runs.

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. I am however, always ready to reanalyze stocking lists for interaction and suitability to your environment.
 
Thank you Steve for the explanation, you are a wealth of information :)

You are most welcome Michele. I suspect, however, that I have forgotten more than I currently know. I used to spend a huge amount of time under water but no longer do that because the areas I formerly frequented are not safe.
 
Wow Thank you for the very fast reply! This is truly a fantastic place to find information. As for the Naso, I take it that is a no go!

The larger tangs do best in longer tanks. Fish which exceed a foot in length when mature make smaller tanks look tiny due to perspective. Naso lituratus is one of the smaller Naso tangs so an 8 foot tank would be ok/marginally acceptable. The larger Naso tangs really look best and are "happier" (which is an anthropomorphic term not really true of fish) in 10 foot or larger tanks. Reef Central suggests that a 350 gallon tank is sufficient for some of the larger tangs like Naso Vlamingi but I remain skeptical. I have that sized tank and would not put one in.

Reading your various responses on here I see you favor Anthias. I like them as well.

Yes, I do like anthias but remember that they do best with multiple small feedings per day and prefer at least some periods of significant flow. Remember their natural environment as a planktivore hovering over a reef during the current "running".

How many of the Lyretail could I comfortably add with that bioload of fish? As for tangs, I am really at a loss as what to add. I would like 1 but want him happy in a tank that size. Would a Chevron be ok?

I personally love a Chevron, its behavior and appearance. It would be well suited to your environment.

Maybe with a Powder Brown. How is the load for this size? I really do not want overcrowding so maybe just the trigger and the chevron for the larger fish. Please feel free to dig in and let me have it..I can take the tough love!

That is not my style. I can give you a pretty good idea of what an outcome will be for a combination of inhabitants and environment but I ONLY care about having everyone be successful. This is after all, just free advice, and I have no ego involvement with whether or not you choose to ignore it.

Thanks again for everything you do!
 
I had started a new thread with this post but reposting here as it may be more approporate here (Hey - I am learning...). I have a 270 gallon fish only tank, and 1st want to express my appreciation for all the great input I have received from all you reefers out there!

I currently have a mated pair of black and white clowns, a pair of false percula clowns, a mated pair or gold headed sleeper gobies, 3 Chromis, and a magnificent fox face.

I have a wish list which I have continually narrowed down and revised. Please let me know your input on the following as well as the order I have the fish in currently. I am moving slow and steady but just looking ahead and I am ready for the next additions as all are doing well and the water levels are good. I want to add good hearty easier to maintain fish.

-Catalina Goby (love the colors - but ok with the other gobies?)
-Blond Naso Tang (ok to add now and then other tang of diff. body shape later? - Naso more milder temperment?)
-Dwarf Angels (add 2 at once and also ok with adding larger angels later??) - considering Flame, Multicolor, Golden, Eibls, Bellus
- goat fish
- Harlequin (australian for sure)
- Puffer (considering a smaller one such as valentini or leopard)
- wrasses (ok to add 2-3? ) - solorensis, scott's fairy, melanaris
- Butterfly - kleini, facula, black back
- Red sea sailfin tang
- Niger and or Blue jaw trigger
- lg angel (ok to add 2 or am I asking for trouble?) - emperor, majestic, chrysurus, goldflake ($), regal, blue line

Well - have at it. How does the order of additions seem? Any changes and comments on those and the ?'s listed above would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
I had started a new thread with this post but reposting here as it may be more approporate here (Hey - I am learning...). I have a 270 gallon fish only tank, and 1st want to express my appreciation for all the great input I have received from all you reefers out there!

This thread is different than others within Reef Central as it is an expert thread only answered by Reef Central Staff (in this case me) and is not a discussion thread.

I currently have a mated pair of black and white clowns, a pair of false percula clowns,

More than two clownfish is likely to be reduced to only two clownfish over time except in very large tanks. In the short run, it may work, in the longer run it is not likely to do so.

a mated pair or gold headed sleeper gobies

In the long run, these will deplete your sand bed of beneficial organisms and then starve to death. In a reef tank these fish have an annoying habit of creating sand storms which leave sand on corals, in a fish only tank this undesirable habit is less annoying

, 3 Chromis, In the long run, these will likely be reduced to at most a pair


and a magnificent fox face.

I have a wish list which I have continually narrowed down and revised. Please let me know your input on the following as well as the order I have the fish in currently. I am moving slow and steady but just looking ahead and I am ready for the next additions as all are doing well and the water levels are good. I want to add good hearty easier to maintain fish.

-Catalina Goby (love the colors - but ok with the other gobies?)

This is a cold water fish and will not do well long term in the warmer temperatures most people keep their tank but if you keep your tank at 73/74 it might do ok


-Blond Naso Tang (ok to add now and then other tang of diff. body shape later? - Naso more milder temperment?)

This is a large fish which is one of the smaller naso tangs but does best in an 8 foot tank or larger but is one of the more mild manner tangs and will allow additions going forward

-Dwarf Angels (add 2 at once and also ok with adding larger angels later??) - considering Flame, Multicolor, Golden, Eibls, Bellus Flame and Multicolor are hardy whereas golden and eibli are a bit more difficult; Bellus is a genicanthus angel that is not really one of the dwarf angels so mixing them is fine
- goat fish gets relatively large but is a good scavenger
- Harlequin (australian for sure) excellent fish but will decimate cleanup crew
- Puffer (considering a smaller one such as valentini or leopard)

aggressive towards tank mates
- wrasses (ok to add 2-3? ) - solorensis, scott's fairy, melanaris

Both C. scottorum and C. solorensis are on the aggressive side and without a female lose some coloration


- Butterfly - kleini, facula, black back
- Red sea sailfin tang
- Niger and or Blue jaw trigger get large and are aggressive; the Niger can be moderately aggressive or very aggressive depending on the individual fish
- lg angel (ok to add 2 or am I asking for trouble?) - emperor, majestic, chrysurus, goldflake ($), regal, blue line

One large angel for this sized tank

Well - have at it. How does the order of additions seem? Any changes and comments on those and the ?'s listed above would be GREATLY appreciated!

Despite having a medium/large tank you have a lot of largish fish and that will tend to make your tank look relatively small. Also, while not a subject for this thread, I suggest you develop a good quarantine protocol. I have one in my blog if you want ideas for doing so.
 
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Much thanks for the quick reply!

OK to add flame, multi-color, bellus and 1 Lg Angel? Which of the lg angels do you recommend?

Thoughts on the butterfly's and also adding the sailfin down the road after the Naso?

Preference as to the Niger or Blue Jaw? Either less aggressive typically?

Add 2 male wrasses and 1 female (matter which is which?)

What do you think of the order listed?

Thanks again!!
 
Much thanks for the quick reply!

OK to add flame, multi-color, bellus and 1 Lg Angel? Which of the lg angels do you recommend?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons.

Thoughts on the butterfly's

All the butterfly fish mentioned are fine given FOWLR

and also adding the sailfin down the road after the Naso?

I indicated that a naso should go in an 8 foot tank and after researching, I find that you only have a 6 foot tank so I do not recommend a naso in your tank and certainly not a sailfin in addition to it.

Preference as to the Niger or Blue Jaw? Either less aggressive typically?

Remember that triggers and the Harlequin Tusk will eat small fish. The niger is the riskier as some of them can be very aggressive

Add 2 male wrasses and 1 female (matter which is which?)

I indicated that the two species of fairy wrasse were aggressive so C. scottorum is not a good choice with any other fairy wrasse

Thanks again!!
 
28g Nano
3 Chromis Will become one chromis over time
1 Mandarin Without exceptional effort will starve to death
Six Line Wrasse (Final Addition) not compatible with a mandarin because of competition for copepods; also exceptionally aggressive and will limit other tank mates
 
A Friend of mine would like to know if his fish list is acceptable.
125 gallon, 11 months mature, Great pod population.

2 ocellaris clowns
1 orange spotted goby
1 red scooter blenny
1 green pistol shrimp
20 Red leg hermits
10 sexy shrimp

Thanks
 
Yellow assessor

Yellow assessor

Still thinking about a yellow fish for the third and final fish. I have 2 ocellaris clowns and a CUC. Will a yellow assessor make a good tank mate for my clowns?
 
A Friend of mine would like to know if his fish list is acceptable.
125 gallon, 11 months mature, Great pod population.

2 ocellaris clowns
1 orange spotted goby
1 red scooter blenny
1 green pistol shrimp
20 Red leg hermits
10 sexy shrimp

Thanks

no problem
 
stocking a 120

stocking a 120

I'm out of my cycle, did my first 25 gallon water change, set up my 10 gal quarantine tank - so I think I'm ready for a stocking list. I have Prazipro, Cupramine and Maracyn Plus on hand for the quarantine. Following these procedures:

Mind you - I was thinking of buying each line item listed every 6-8 weeks to allow quarantine and not overcrowding the 10 gallon

Water param:
pH fluctuates between 8.1 and 8.2, temp: 78, salinity 1.026
Before the water change:
nitrates 0 PPM, PO4 50 PPB, kH was low at 5.1 (hence the water change), Ca 400 PPM, Mg 1140 PPM.

Current Display - 4x2x2 foot w/ 2x mp40 (reef crest 90%), 80 pounds Pukani, 4" sugar sized sand bed, 2x Pacific Sun Triton LEDs:

  • Sand bed with beneficial infuana (bristle and spaghetti worms, pods, sandbed clams, microbrittle star fish - first priority is to not introduce things to disrupt the functioning of the sand bed or decimate the infauna
    5 microhermits (with the black and white legs)
    6 Nerite Snails
    6 Strombus Snails
    6 Mexican Turbo snails
    1 Stomatella Snail

Current sump: 4x2x16" (95 gallon) in three compartments, Reef Octopus xs225 diablo skimmer, fuge with Chaeto and red tang heaven algae (IPSF's name for it), Eheim 1262 return

So this is my wishlist for stocking (and in this order - with each line item taking 6-8 weeks of quarantine) - so yes - almost two years to complete my wish list:

  • 2 Clownfish (black and white or normal... haven't decided yet)
    Cherub Anglefish
    5 threadfin cardinals
    5 blue/green chromis
    1 foxface tang
    1 flamefin tang
    1 yellow tang

Thoughts?
 
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