PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

I forgot to ask about a royal gramma with my list before.

royal grammas require rockwork that they can hide within; they are semicryptic. Not compatible with any of the pseudochromis species.

 

[ashnat]

I have lots of rockwork with many caves.

Thanks again

 

[Roman120G]

Hello Steve

have a follow up question.

Can I add Firefish, Purple (Nemateleotris decora) pair to my list?

they will go under #3 instead of Sailfin blenny.

if yes, should I add them in the beginning to get established?

and will they be ok later on with bicolour blenny ( pair) and yasha goby ( with two pistols) and madarin goby ( possible pair)

there will be no Marine Gamma and tangs will be added towards the end of the list.

thank you

 

[Roman120G]

strange, i did the "quote" of my OP but it doesnt show up.

here is UPDATED list:

1. True percula Clownfish x 2
2. Bicolour blenny - pair ?
3. Firefish, Purple (Nemateleotris decora) pair
4. Yasha Goby - Stonogobiops yasha with Candy Stripe Pistol Shrimp -
5. Royal gramma basslet "“ pair?
6. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse, could I get more then 1?
7. Copperband butterflyfish - have not decided yet.
8. Mandarin goby- after 6-9months, I know
9. Blue powder tang "“ would prefer to add it in the mid list, but read that all tangs should be added at the same time in order to avoid fighting.
10. Yellow tang "“ know it should be one of the last

thank you

 

[snorvich]

strange, i did the "quote" of my OP but it doesnt show up.

here is UPDATED list:

1. True percula Clownfish x 2
2. Bicolour blenny - pair ? If and ONLYl if they are a bonded, mated pair, otherwise, only one
3. Firefish, Purple (Nemateleotris decora) pair If and ONLYl if they are a bonded, mated pair, otherwise, only one
4. Yasha Goby - Stonogobiops yasha with Candy Stripe Pistol Shrimp -
5. Royal gramma basslet "“ pair? If and ONLYl if they are a bonded, mated pair, otherwise, only one
6. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse, could I get more then 1? yes, if you have a male and female
7. Copperband butterflyfish - have not decided yet. expert level fish, best chance is with an Australian collected one
8. Mandarin goby- after 6-9months, I know
9. Blue powder tang "“ would prefer to add it in the mid list, but read that all tangs should be added at the same time in order to avoid fighting.
10. Yellow tang "“ know it should be one of the last must be last

thank you

 

[Roman120G]

thank you for quick answer,

just to make sure I understand correctly what "bonded, mated pair" means.

I asked one LFS regarding mated bicolor blenny, he said that it is pretty impossible, since they may come from different places and only meet at LFS.

so, when fish is at LFS, they need to stay together for a while to see, if they bond? and I and LFS manager keep an eye on the process and if ok, then I purchase them.

or if any of the pairs ( gammas, blennies, firefish) are tank raised then it would be easier to get a bonded pair. But not sure if it is possible to breed these in tanks. They may all come in wild.

please, correct me, if I am wrong.

thank you

 

[snorvich]

thank you for quick answer,

just to make sure I understand correctly what "bonded, mated pair" means.

Bonded pairs are a male + female that have bonded and are collected/captured together.

I asked one LFS regarding mated bicolor blenny, he said that it is pretty impossible, since they may come from different places and only meet at LFS.

Difficult, yes, impossible, no. Fish which "meet" at the LFS will coexist in the LFS tank but will almost certainly NOT coexist long term in your tank. In general, more than one of a species will not tolerate long term others of the same sex. The exception is certain fish which are morphologically different sexually such as flasher wrasses where it is easy to differentiate the sexes.

so, when fish is at LFS, they need to stay together for a while to see, if they bond? and I and LFS manager keep an eye on the process and if ok, then I purchase them.

No, sorry. That will not work.

or if any of the pairs ( gammas, blennies, firefish) are tank raised then it would be easier to get a bonded pair.

No. Fish do not sexually differentiate until more mature and tank raised fish are intentionally sold before they do so.

But not sure if it is possible to breed these in tanks. They may all come in wild.

please, correct me, if I am wrong.

I did.

thank you

You are most welcome.

 

[korkus]

In my 90g mixed reef I currently have

1 diamond goby
1 red firefish

My stocking list in order I was planning to add them

1 carpenters flasher wrasse
1 royal gramma
2 common ocellaris clowns
1 one spot foxface
1 kole tang

How is the bioload with this list. Could a coral beauty be added as well or is this the limit?I plan on mostly soft corals in the tank with a few shrimp.

 

[snorvich]

In my 90g mixed reef I currently have

1 diamond goby
1 red firefish

My stocking list in order I was planning to add them

1 carpenters flasher wrasse
1 royal gramma
2 common ocellaris clowns
1 one spot foxface
1 kole tang

How is the bioload with this list. Could a coral beauty be added as well or is this the limit?I plan on mostly soft corals in the tank with a few shrimp.

bioload should be ok but two large grazers preclude a coral beauty unless you supplement with nori

 

[surgy]

my first marine tank

my first marine tank

i have been in fresh water for a while now. wanted to go marine so i bought a new tank. All water test were done with jungle brand strips. (i know i know i need better) specific gravity was tested using an instant ocean hydrometer. Salt is instant ocean sea salt. the tank is 3 days old. so im not ready for animals yet. at least from my experience in fresh water. but i do want to run my plan by you guys and see what you say. I need to know any specifics i need to do to make the water perfect for the animals i wish to keep. List of animals is included at the bottom.

the tank:
36 gallon aqueon bow front
size 40 aqueon powerfilter (came with tank)
100 watt aqueon submersible heater
floating glass thermometer
single T-5 full spectrum lamp made into canopy
petco brand king 160 powerhead

whats in it now:
2-3 inch bed of light brown caribsea aragonite sand
11 lb live rock (getting more soon)
8 lb base rock (used hold fast to make two small formations)
lots of amphipods and a few bristle worms

water:
35 gallons of distilled water from grocery store
Ammonia 0 ppm
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate 0 ppm
KH (alkalinity) 300 ppm
PH 7.8
Specific Gravity 1.022 (31 PPT)

Animals i want to add in the order i want to add them:
(advice here please. how long to wait between and would it be better in a different order?)

1 Common Ocellaris Clown
1 Banded Coral Shrimp
1 Citrinis Clown Goby
Undecided snail
undecided hermit crab

 

[snorvich]

i have been in fresh water for a while now. wanted to go marine so i bought a new tank. All water test were done with jungle brand strips. (i know i know i need better) specific gravity was tested using an instant ocean hydrometer. Salt is instant ocean sea salt. the tank is 3 days old. so im not ready for animals yet. at least from my experience in fresh water. but i do want to run my plan by you guys and see what you say. I need to know any specifics i need to do to make the water perfect for the animals i wish to keep.

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility and is only answered by Reef Central Staff. If you wish to know about water conditioning, equipment, etc. it is best to start a separate thread in the New to the hobby forum.

List of animals is included at the bottom.

the tank:
36 gallon aqueon bow front
size 40 aqueon powerfilter (came with tank)
100 watt aqueon submersible heater
floating glass thermometer
single T-5 full spectrum lamp made into canopy
petco brand king 160 powerhead

whats in it now:
2-3 inch bed of light brown caribsea aragonite sand
11 lb live rock (getting more soon)
8 lb base rock (used hold fast to make two small formations)
lots of amphipods and a few bristle worms

water:
35 gallons of distilled water from grocery store
Ammonia 0 ppm
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate 0 ppm
KH (alkalinity) 300 ppm
PH 7.8
Specific Gravity 1.022 (31 PPT)

Animals i want to add in the order i want to add them:
(advice here please. how long to wait between and would it be better in a different order?)

1 Common Ocellaris Clown fine
1 Banded Coral Shrimp can take fish, undesirable, especially in a small tank
1 Citrinis Clown Goby fine
Undecided snail
undecided hermit crab hermit crabs kill snails for their shells, so it is best to decide on various snails or hermit crabs but not both

 

[newaquarist]

New Tank

New Tank

I am putting up a 180gallon mixed reef tank. 150 lbs of very porus live rock and 180 pounds of sand. This is my dream end-state stocking. I will get there very slowly and perhaps not at all if its too much. Is it too much, if everything is done right?

Fishes:
- 2 pair of clowns
- 3 tangs (yellow, red-sea sailfin and sohal)
- 2 hawkfish, one flame and one long nose
- 2 mandarins
- 1 marine betta
- 2 wrasses
- 1 goby
- 1 blue-spotted jaw
- 1 Starry blenny
- 1 longhorn cowfish (if im feeling brave)
- 1 dwarf angel
- 1 toby puffer (if i'm feeling brave)

Mixed Corals, LPS and SPS mix
2 Anemones
1 Clam

I plan on having a refugium, a top-quality skimmer, bio-pellet reactor and UV (both in time, once things get going)

Last, I plan on purchasing juvenile specimens only. If certain fish outgrow the tank in 3 to 5 years, that's fine... i will upgrade or move them on....

So, does this all sound feasible or overload... if overload, by how much?

Thanks!

 

[Roman120G]

You are most welcome.

thank you, will be requesting bonded pairs from LFS and hope for the best.

 

[snorvich]

I am putting up a 180gallon mixed reef tank. 150 lbs of very porus live rock and 180 pounds of sand. This is my dream end-state stocking. I will get there very slowly and perhaps not at all if its too much. Is it too much, if everything is done right?

Fishes:
- 2 pair of clowns depends on species, some are moderately aggressive, others vary aggressive
- 3 tangs (yellow, red-sea sailfin and sohal) A sohal tang, long term will kill the other two tangs, perhaps other fish as well. An established yellow will be a problem for additions
- 2 hawkfish, one flame and one long nose not shrimp safe, but excellent fish
- 2 mandarins only if a male plus feame
- 1 marine betta may eat smaller fish, primarily nocturnal
- 2 wrasses
- 1 goby
- 1 blue-spotted jaw needs cooler temperatures for long term success
- 1 Starry blenny
- 1 longhorn cowfish (if im feeling brave) I would never be that brave
- 1 dwarf angel not reef safe
- 1 toby puffer (if i'm feeling brave) I would never be that brave

Mixed Corals, LPS and SPS mix
2 Anemones
1 Clam

I plan on having a refugium, a top-quality skimmer, bio-pellet reactor and UV (both in time, once things get going)

Last, I plan on purchasing juvenile specimens only. If certain fish outgrow the tank in 3 to 5 years, that's fine... i will upgrade or move them on....

Reef central suggests buying fish for the tank you have that can exist long term within it.

So, does this all sound feasible or overload... if overload, by how much?

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

thank you, will be requesting bonded pairs from LFS and hope for the best.

Realizing, of course, that they will not be bonded, and one will die

 

[Toxic Slurpee]

90 gallon system. A few LPS/SPS corals.

Already in the tank:

- Yellow Watchman Goby
- Pistol Shrimp
- Chalk Bass
- Royal Gramma
- Tailspot Blenny
- Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse

Would like to add:

- Bellus Angel, Genicanthus bellus
- Coral beauty, Centropyge bispinosa
- Pygmy Wrasse, Wetmorella tanakai
- Yellow Jawish, Opistognathus aurifrons

--

How's the bioload / compatibility? Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

90 gallon system. A few LPS/SPS corals.

Already in the tank:

- Yellow Watchman Goby
- Pistol Shrimp
- Chalk Bass
- Royal Gramma
- Tailspot Blenny
- Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse

Would like to add:

- Bellus Angel, Genicanthus bellus Any Genicanthus species does better in a six foot or longer tank
- Coral beauty, Centropyge bispinosa not reef safe, especially towards meaty LPS corals
- Pygmy Wrasse, Wetmorella tanakai
- Yellow Jawish, Opistognathus aurifrons

--

How's the bioload / compatibility? Thanks!

Bioload should be fine

 

[newaquarist]

I appreciate the feedback but I am frankly not sure what to so with it. It seems that it is the absolute most conservative feedback that one could receive. For example, I have 3 friends with dwarf angels -- and one with a larger angel, I think a koran(spl?) and none have ever had a problem in multiple years. My lfs has a sohal in their Dt for 4 years with lots if other tangs and no problems. To say that it WILL kill the other tangs seems ridiculous. So I find the advice unfortunately of limited value. The point about the blue spot sounds likely to be useful and will probably have to cross that one off the list.

 

[snorvich]

I appreciate the feedback but I am frankly not sure what to so with it. It seems that it is the absolute most conservative feedback that one could receive. For example, I have 3 friends with dwarf angels -- and one with a larger angel, I think a koran(spl?) and none have ever had a problem in multiple years. My lfs has a sohal in their Dt for 4 years with lots if other tangs and no problems. To say that it WILL kill the other tangs seems ridiculous. So I find the advice unfortunately of limited value. The point about the blue spot sounds likely to be useful and will probably have to cross that one off the list.

No problem. It is best to listen to your friends and the LFS.

 

[sleepydoc]

I was thinking about getting a Bartlett's anthia, but have read in a couple places that they prefer to be fed several times a day. Since this will be difficult with my schedule, I wanted to check with people to see if they do OK with once a day feeding, or if I would be best off choosing a different fish.