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[flixxx]

That is an unanswerable question as it depends on ecological niche, behavior, and size

Thanks for the quick response.

So to allow us to get our corals eventually and not cram the aquarium would this be ideal?



2 clownfish - Ocelarris
1 turbo snail
5 nassarius snail
1 Green Chromis (Chromis viridis) six will become one over time
bubbletip sea anemone
2 Banggai Cardinal Fish (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 purple firefish

 

[miah2bzy]

The odds are stacked against you and either the LFS knows that and does not care or does not know that which is worse. SG of 1.030 is not optimum, it should be closer to 1.026 NSW. (although beyond the scope of this thread)

I thought that might be the case. They were pushing reef pod packs but I wanted to check here first. Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for the quick response.

So to allow us to get our corals eventually and not cram the aquarium would this be ideal?



2 clownfish - Ocelarris
1 turbo snail
5 nassarius snail
1 Green Chromis (Chromis viridis) six will become one over time
bubbletip sea anemone
2 Banggai Cardinal Fish (Pterapogon kauderni)
1 purple firefish

looks good; introduce the firefish early in the process

 

[eric1115]

Hi
I am cycling a 180 with 30 gallon sump. 160lb rock and 100lb of sand.
I wanted these fish but not sure the order I should introduce them.

- Golden Butterfly - Read I should introduce after 6 months but can be bully by rest of the fish on my list.
- Raccoon Butterfly - Same as above and will it fight with the other Butterfly fish?
- Majestic Angel - Shy and hard to get to eat if being bully. I read Angel should be introduce last. Confused.
- Goldflake Angel
- Lieutanant Tang - I read it's one of the more peaceful one
- Powder Blue Tang - I read it can be aggressive. Should this be the last fish or the Angel?
- Flame Angel - Should this go in after the large Angel or before?


Thank you for your help.

 

[snorvich]

Hi
I am cycling a 180 with 30 gallon sump. 160lb rock and 100lb of sand.
I wanted these fish but not sure the order I should introduce them.

- Golden Butterfly - Read I should introduce after 6 months but can be bully by rest of the fish on my list.
- Raccoon Butterfly - Same as above and will it fight with the other Butterfly fish?
- Majestic Angel - Shy and hard to get to eat if being bully. I read Angel should be introduce last. Confused.
- Goldflake Angel
- Lieutanant Tang - I read it's one of the more peaceful one
- Powder Blue Tang - I read it can be aggressive. Should this be the last fish or the Angel?
- Flame Angel - Should this go in after the large Angel or before?

The general rule is introduce the most aggressive last and the most docile/shy first. Semilarvatus are shy, and may not eat at all if you have "rowdy" tankmates and the same is true of the magestic angel. With these fish I would be reluctant to try a powder blue tang at all.
Thank you for your help.

 

[dyn0mite]

hello again! 180g reef, set up for 6 months.

currently housed:
Yellow Angelfish (Centropyge heraldi)
Blonde Naso Tang (Naso elegans)
Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Porcupine Puffer (Diodon holocanthus)
Bluespotted Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus pavoninoides)
asst snails and hermits

want to add:
Bicolor Angelfish (Centropyge bicolor)
Red Stripe Angelfish (Centropyge eibli)
Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis) 3) 2f+1m
Algae Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) - if able to add this, is a group necessary?
Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
2)Chalk Bass (Serranus tortugarum)

have 2 quarantine tanks and would like to add new ones all at once if possible. thank you for your time and for what you do at this forum!

 

[snorvich]

hello again! 180g reef, set up for 6 months.

currently housed:
Yellow Angelfish (Centropyge heraldi)
Blonde Naso Tang (Naso elegans) needs a larger (longer) tank
Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Porcupine Puffer (Diodon holocanthus) will nip fins of tank mates and is probably not totally safe with hermits
Bluespotted Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus pavoninoides)
asst snails and hermits

want to add:
Bicolor Angelfish (Centropyge bicolor) the existing angel will not be happy; add to the tank just before lights out
Red Stripe Angelfish (Centropyge eibli) the existing angel will not be happy; add to the tank just before lights out
Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis) 3) 2f+1m
Algae Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) - if able to add this, is a group necessary? No. A group with one male and multiple females will work but only until one of the females transitions to being a male
Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
2)Chalk Bass (Serranus tortugarum)

have 2 quarantine tanks and would like to add new ones all at once if possible. thank you for your time and for what you do at this forum!

 

[silverplanet]

Hello

75g bowfront with 45g sump

Skimmer and Dsb In sump with rubble and macro

Tank is 3 months old with Rock and corals from previous 28g nanocube. Probably around 70 pounds of rock

80 pounds of black moon sand

Current stock

2 clowns
1 coral beauty
1 royal gramma
1 lawnmower blenny



What I would like to add

Yellow tang - is tank going to be decent size?
Coris wrasse or leopard wrasse - will sand be to sharp for them
Pair of banghii cardinals?

Silver

 

[MBC2012]

List for new tank

List for new tank

Our new 200 gal looks to be leaning toward a fish dominate one because my love has set a system for a couple of frag tanks. So heres the list of what we have that will transfer to the new tank and a list of some I want to add
what we have
2 Borbonius anthias, Desjardin's Sailfin, flame wrasse, earl wrasse, six line, mystery, blue neon goby, yello hogfish, hawkfish, 2 llyretail anthias, watchman goby and a blenny and 2 davinci clowns

hope to add
male Lineatus, female Rhom, purple tang, Australian CBB, gold flake tang and a gold spotted rabbitfish

I presume I may need to rehome the mystery and or six line by right now they are not an issue and the tank is calm……..still in QT is the Desjardin, flame and earl only bc the tank it too small for all 75gal…

Could I add anymore Bordonius?
Thoughts?

 

[snorvich]

Hello

75g bowfront with 45g sump

Skimmer and Dsb In sump with rubble and macro

Tank is 3 months old with Rock and corals from previous 28g nanocube. Probably around 70 pounds of rock

80 pounds of black moon sand

Current stock

2 clowns
1 coral beauty
1 royal gramma
1 lawnmower blenny



What I would like to add

Yellow tang - is tank going to be decent size? Tank really needs to be larger, and this fish will limit future additions
Coris wrasse or leopard wrasse - will sand be to sharp for them they do best with fine, soft sand
Pair of banghii cardinals? tank raised male plus female is fine

Silver

 

[snorvich]

Our new 200 gal looks to be leaning toward a fish dominate one because my love has set a system for a couple of frag tanks. So heres the list of what we have that will transfer to the new tank and a list of some I want to add
what we have
2 Borbonius anthias
, Desjardin's Sailfin, Reef Central's recommended tank size for tangs can be found here and as you can see we recommend an 8 foot tank for this fish
flame wrasse, Male flames acclimate poorly to shipping stress; if established, you should be fine
earl wrasse,
six line, mystery, I would not put either with fairy wrasses or flasher wrasses
blue neon goby, short lived
yello hogfish, hawkfish,
2 llyretail anthias,
watchman goby and a
blenny and
2 davinci clowns

hope to add
male Lineatus, female Rhom, mystery wrasse and sixline will be problematical

purple tang, Australian CBB, gold flake tang and a gold spotted rabbitfish the sailfin is likely to have a problem with the tangs, CBB, and rabbitfish

I presume I may need to rehome the mystery and or six line by right now they are not an issue and the tank is calm"¦"¦..still in QT is the Desjardin, flame and earl only bc the tank it too small for all 75gal"¦

Could I add anymore Bordonius? probably yes, but these are not really a shoaling fish
Thoughts?

 

[MBC2012]

thanks steve,
the neon has been with us for 2yrs.
flames is est. been with us in qt for 6mos
do have plans to re-home the mystery and six line

purple tang, Australian CBB, gold flake tang and a gold spotted rabbitfish the sailfin is likely to have a problem with the tangs, CBB, and rabbitfish …..even if they are all introduced at the same time?

 

[snorvich]

thanks steve,
the neon has been with us for 2yrs. which is at the upper limit of normal life span
flames is est. been with us in qt for 6mos male or female; females are fine, males usually difficult
do have plans to re-home the mystery and six line

purple tang, Australian CBB, gold flake tang and a gold spotted rabbitfish the sailfin is likely to have a problem with the tangs, CBB, and rabbitfish …..even if they are all introduced at the same time?

Unfortunately yes. The CBB will have the most issues with the aggression; they are difficult to start with. Also, please do not introduce color. I use it to differentiate the answer from the question posed. Since I am color blind, additional colors make it difficult for me. Thanks.

 

[lt3058]

Hello, I am currently in the process of ordering a custom aquarium. I'm planning on a 12' long 3' wide and 3' tall aquarium. It's going to end up being somewhere around 800 gallons. I have been planning this aquarium for a long time and it has finally become real. I built it this big because I love tangs and after reading the minimum tank lengths I came up with this. I know I probably have too many fish, but these are all the fish that I like and needed someone with more experience on fish interaction than myself to help me decide. I want to keep some corals like some sps and toxic lps and maybe some softies. Can you tell me what would work the best and what I would be better off skipping?

Tangs:
Lined/Clown Tang
Orangeshoulder Tang
Mimic Tang
Sohal Tang
Chevron Tang
Blonde Naso Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Purple Tang
Yellow Tang
Anthias: (How many would you recommend?)
Squareback
Carberryi
Indian Ocean Lyretail
Longhorn Cowfish?
Wrasse:
Red Velvet Fairy Wrasse
Hooded Fairy Wrasse
Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Linespot Flasher Wrasse
Mystery Wrasse
Banana Wrasse
Bluehead Wrasse
Chiseltooth
Goldbar
Melanarus
Pinkface
Red Breast
Yellow Wrasse
Popeye Catalufa Soldierfish
Foxface Lo or Magnificent
Red Mandarin Pair
Goldstripe Maroon Clownfish
Black Ice Clownfish
Agile Chromis
Tailspot Blenny
Harptail Blenny
Striped Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Goldflake Angelfish
Female Spotbreast Angelfish
Regal Angelfish
Bandit Angelfish (If I can find one)

 

[snorvich]

Hello, I am currently in the process of ordering a custom aquarium. I'm planning on a 12' long 3' wide and 3' tall aquarium. It's going to end up being somewhere around 800 gallons. I have been planning this aquarium for a long time and it has finally become real. I built it this big because I love tangs and after reading the minimum tank lengths I came up with this. I know I probably have too many fish, but these are all the fish that I like and needed someone with more experience on fish interaction than myself to help me decide. I want to keep some corals like some sps and toxic lps and maybe some softies. Can you tell me what would work the best and what I would be better off skipping?

Tangs:
Lined/Clown Tang avoid
Orangeshoulder Tang
Mimic Tang
Sohal Tang avoid
Chevron Tang
Blonde Naso Tang
Vlamingi Tang one of my favorite fish
Desjardinii Tang
Purple Tang
Yellow Tang
Anthias: (How many would you recommend?) Difficult to say, but resplendent or carberryi would be my choice. Remember that anthias do best if fed multiple times per day
Squareback
Carberryi
Indian Ocean Lyretail
Longhorn Cowfish? avoid
Wrasse:
Red Velvet Fairy Wrasse
Hooded Fairy Wrasse
Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Linespot Flasher Wrasse
Mystery Wrasse
Banana Wrasse
Bluehead Wrasse
Chiseltooth
Goldbar
Melanarus
Pinkface
Red Breast
Yellow Wrasse
Popeye Catalufa Soldierfish
Foxface Lo or Magnificent
Red Mandarin Pair
Goldstripe Maroon Clownfish
Black Ice Clownfish
Agile Chromis
Tailspot Blenny
Harptail Blenny
Striped Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Goldflake Angelfish
Female Spotbreast Angelfish
Regal Angelfish Red sea for best results
Bandit Angelfish cooler temperatures (If I can find one)

I cannot tell you how many fish would do well but you have a lot even for this sized tank. I personally do not like crowded tanks and yours, despite its length is a bit on the crowded side. It will look best with more smallish fish and fewer larger fish. There are several fish I would definitely avoid.

 

[mkoop]

180DT

1 Starry Blenny - Salarias ramosus
1 Tailspot Blenny - Ecsenius stigmatura
7 Carberryi Anthias - Nemanthias Carberryi
1 Blue/Green Reef Chromis - Chromis viridis
1 Foceface Lo - Siganus Vulpinus
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus leptocephalus
1 Red Mandarin - Synchiropus cf. splendidus (Could I run into issues introducing him with the spotted mandarin or should they be okay?)

1 Chevron Tang - Ctenchaetus Hawaiiensis
1 Powder Brown - Acanthurus japonicus
1 Purple Tang - Zebrasoma Xanthurum

---- current inhabitants

2 Banggai Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni
2 Ocellaris Clown - Amphiprion ocellaris
1 Spotted Mandarin - Synchiropus picturatus
3 Peppermint Shrimp
2 Blood red fire shrimp
2 Scarlet Skunk cleaner shrimp

--

QT is currently empty so trying to figure out what I should add next, I'd like to get some more activity in the DT, so may look at adding the foxface or Carberryi's?

Also any recommendations to how I should introduce the tangs? I am assuming the Zebrasoma will be the last addition.

 

[snorvich]

180DT

1 Starry Blenny - Salarias ramosus only one blenny
1 Tailspot Blenny - Ecsenius stigmatura
7 Carberryi Anthias - Nemanthias Carberryi do best if fed multiple times per day
1 Blue/Green Reef Chromis - Chromis viridis
1 Foceface Lo - Siganus Vulpinus
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus leptocephalus
1 Red Mandarin - Synchiropus cf. splendidus (Could I run into issues introducing him with the spotted mandarin or should they be okay?) Most mandarins are males (prettier coloration, hence they are brought in more, and two males will fight to the death

1 Chevron Tang - Ctenchaetus Hawaiiensis I would not introduce three tangs in a six foot tank; however this one is the best of the three in terms of aggression. If you do introduce multiple tangs, they should be concurrently introduced.
1 Powder Brown - Acanthurus japonicus
1 Purple Tang - Zebrasoma Xanthurum

---- current inhabitants

2 Banggai Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni must be male plus female for long term success
2 Ocellaris Clown - Amphiprion ocellaris
1 Spotted Mandarin - Synchiropus picturatus
3 Peppermint Shrimp
2 Blood red fire shrimp
2 Scarlet Skunk cleaner shrimp

--

QT is currently empty so trying to figure out what I should add next, I'd like to get some more activity in the DT, so may look at adding the foxface or Carberryi's?

Also any recommendations to how I should introduce the tangs? I am assuming the Zebrasoma will be the last addition. yes, it must be last

 

[mkoop]

Originally Posted by mkoop View Post
180DT

1 Starry Blenny - Salarias ramosus only one blenny -- okay will remove the tailspot
7 Carberryi Anthias - Nemanthias Carberryi do best if fed multiple times per day not a problem
1 Blue/Green Reef Chromis - Chromis viridis
1 Foceface Lo - Siganus Vulpinus
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus leptocephalus
1 Red Mandarin - Synchiropus cf. splendidus (Could I run into issues introducing him with the spotted mandarin or should they be okay?) Most mandarins are males (prettier coloration, hence they are brought in more, and two males will fight to the death -- does this include all dragonets or just mandarins? Would this hold true with a red scooter dragonette mixed with the spotted mandarin?

1 Chevron Tang - Ctenchaetus Hawaiiensis I would not introduce three tangs in a six foot tank; however this one is the best of the three in terms of aggression. If you do introduce multiple tangs, they should be concurrently introduced.
1 Powder Brown - Acanthurus japonicus
1 Purple Tang - Zebrasoma Xanthurum
Do you feel that if I removed any one of the three of these, the other two could coexist peacefully?

---- current inhabitants

2 Banggai Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni must be male plus female for long term success So aside from buying a bonded pair, is it just kind of hit or miss? I may just stick to one should I lose one.
2 Ocellaris Clown - Amphiprion ocellaris
1 Spotted Mandarin - Synchiropus picturatus
3 Peppermint Shrimp
2 Blood red fire shrimp
2 Scarlet Skunk cleaner shrimp

--

QT is currently empty so trying to figure out what I should add next, I'd like to get some more activity in the DT, so may look at adding the foxface or Carberryi's?

Also any recommendations to how I should introduce the tangs? I am assuming the Zebrasoma will be the last addition. yes, it must be last

 

[snorvich]

The problem is that dragonets of all types occupy the same ecological niche in that they all consume copepods. Generally mixing conspecifics from the same ecological niche is not a good idea except in vary large (long) tanks. Mandarins, for sure, will fight even across species. I have not tried a "scooter blenny" (which of course is a dragonet not a blenny) with a mandarin.

 

[mkoop]

The problem is that dragonets of all types occupy the same ecological niche in that they all consume copepods. Generally mixing conspecifics from the same ecological niche is not a good idea except in vary large (long) tanks. Mandarins, for sure, will fight even across species. I have not tried a "scooter blenny" (which of course is a dragonet not a blenny) with a mandarin.

Thanks Steve - sometimes it is tough to take a step back from our favorites species to ensure everyone can peacefully coexist.
I think I'll just stick with the spotted and not introduce any other dragonet unless I can somehow get my current dragonet sexed and find one of the opposite.