PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Thanks Steve - sometimes it is tough to take a step back from our favorites species to ensure everyone can peacefully coexist.
I think I'll just stick with the spotted and not introduce any other dragonet unless I can somehow get my current dragonet sexed and find one of the opposite.

Sexing is easy (except for one problem). The dorsal fin on males is spiked; the dorsal fin on females is not (normally rounded). However, I have seen dealers cut off the spike to "create a female" morphologically but it does not fool the other dragonet, just the buyer.

 

[ThaBeast]

Please check over my updated stock list

Currently in tank:
Yellow halichores wrasse
Randall's goby
Royal gramma
One spot Foxface
Midas blenny

Would like to add in this order

Macneilli assessor
Pr ocellaris clowns
Spotted mandarin
Starcki damsel
Pr of watanabei or Lamarck angels

In a 4ft 160

 

[snorvich]

Please check over my updated stock list

Currently in tank:
Yellow halichores wrasse
Randall's goby
Royal gramma
One spot Foxface
Midas blenny can nip at fins of tank mates

Would like to add in this order

Macneilli assessor
Pr ocellaris clowns
Spotted mandarin assumes the tank is 9 months or more mature
Starcki damsel
Pr of watanabei or Lamarck angels Male Genicanthus are very difficult shippers; pairs of this family should be added concurrently. Watanabei are the most difficult as females can become males rather easily unless the pair added are a bonded pair. If that happens one is likely to be killed.

In a 4ft 160

 

[ThaBeast]

Would a pair of Lamarcks be easier? I realize I must purchase a bonded pair.

 

[snorvich]

Would a pair of Lamarcks be easier? I realize I must purchase a bonded pair.

Similar issue with the male in terms of shipping but less susceptible to transformations. As such, more likely than Watanabei. Females are easy.

 

[RickyRicardo]

PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

Revised combination below, can you also offer advice on order of additions?



Originally Posted by RickyRicardo

Hello, I am actually looking for a suggestion for a larger fish and tangs for a 116 gallon corner tank plus sump and refugium (20 gal?).



I currently have

- two false perculae I have owned since they were juvenile

- 3 sexy shrimps

- one tricnacda clam



I want to add

- 3 cleaner shrimp (skunk)

- 2 red blood shrimp

- one firefish (or pair if possible)

- 2 Kaudern's Cardinal

- 3 neon goby

- 1 tuxedo urchin

- 3 orchid dotty back

- one watchmen goby (pair if possible)

- one blue dragonet (in 6 months)

- one kole tang

- one spotted dragonet (in one year, based on healthy pod population)

- one fire angel



Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

Revised combination below, can you also offer advice on order of additions?



Originally Posted by RickyRicardo

Hello, I am actually looking for a suggestion for a larger fish and tangs for a 116 gallon corner tank plus sump and refugium (20 gal?).



I currently have

- two false perculae I have owned since they were juvenile

- 3 sexy shrimps

- one tricnacda clam



I want to add

- 3 cleaner shrimp (skunk)

- 2 red blood shrimp

- one firefish (or pair if possible)

- 2 Kaudern's Cardinal tank raised male plus female only

- 3 neon goby only one unless you have a mated pair

- 1 tuxedo urchin

- 3 orchid dotty back only one

- one watchmen goby (pair if possible) only one

- one blue dragonet (in 6 months) only one dragonet

- one kole tang

- one spotted dragonet (in one year, based on healthy pod population)

- one fire angel



Thanks!

fine, except as noted; kole tang last

 

[lt3058]

Okay revised stocking list for 800g 12' long 3' tall and 3' wide aquarium

Tangs:
Orangeshoulder
Chevron
Vlamingi
Desjardinii
Blonde Naso

Anthias:
Carberryi
Squareback 1 male 5 females?

Wrasse:

Red Velvet
Golden Rhomboidalis 1 male 1 female?
McCosker's 1 male 1 female?
Linespot Flasher
Mystery
Banana
Goldbar
Pinkface

Others:
Popeye Catalufa Soldierfish
Foxface Lo
Goldstripe Maroon Clownfish Pair
Black Ice Clownfish Pair
Agile Chromis (possible number?)
Harptail Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Goldflake Angel
Regal Angel

Am I doing better on narrowing things down? Any number recommendations for the wrasse or anthias would be great. I've never tried to stock something this big and the possibilities are almost overwhelming in a good way

 

[maxter]

i have a 65 gal with 20 sump 60 lb of live rock and 40 of live sand , stock list

1 yellow tang
3 green crhomis
1 clown fish
1 purple fire fish .

want to buy two reef safe wrasse and one goby or another purple fire fish

what do you thing guys ?

 

[snorvich]

Okay revised stocking list for 800g 12' long 3' tall and 3' wide aquarium

Tangs:
Orangeshoulder
Chevron
Vlamingi
Desjardinii must be last
Blonde Naso

Anthias:
Carberryi
Squareback 1 male 5 females?

Wrasse:

Red Velvet
Golden Rhomboidalis 1 male 1 female?
McCosker's 1 male 1 female?
Linespot Flasher
Mystery may be an issue
Banana
Goldbar
Pinkface

Others:
Popeye Catalufa Soldierfish
Foxface Lo
Goldstripe Maroon Clownfish Pair super aggressive
Black Ice Clownfish Pair only one pair of clownfish, especially with GSM
Agile Chromis (possible number?)
Harptail Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Goldflake Angel
Regal Angel red sea origin is best

Am I doing better on narrowing things down?

better and the mix of large versus smaller is much better

Any number recommendations for the wrasse or anthias would be great. I've never tried to stock something this big and the possibilities are almost overwhelming in a good way

I would have a group of anthias (but remember they need to be fed multiple times per day) of a male and ten females

 

[snorvich]

i have a 65 gal with 20 sump 60 lb of live rock and 40 of live sand , stock list

1 yellow tang needs a larger tank
3 green crhomis will become one over time
1 clown fish
1 purple fire fish .

want to buy two reef safe wrasse and one goby or another purple fire fish only one firefish, but depending on species of wrasse, it may require a larger tank

what do you thing guys ?

 

[Sgchick]

I have a 29 gallon biocube hqi with 15 lbs of live rock. My fav fish is a toby puffer. Would like to add 2 clowns also. I have in the biocube a bumble bee snail and a nassarius snail. Could I add any more to the cleanup crew and at least one more fish like the possum wrasse? Thanks

 

[snorvich]

I have a 29 gallon biocube hqi with 15 lbs of live rock. My fav fish is a toby puffer. Would like to add 2 clowns also. I have in the biocube a bumble bee snail and a nassarius snail. Could I add any more to the cleanup crew and at least one more fish like the possum wrasse? Thanks

Toby puffers (all puffers really) tend to eat invertebrates so your clean up crew would be at risk. Depending on the species of clownfish, they may or may not be doable in your sized tank. Possum wrasses are excellent in your sized tank.

 

[Sgchick]

Oops. I have more like 50 lbs of live rock.

 

[snorvich]

Oops. I have more like 50 lbs of live rock.

which is a good thing but not relevant for behavioral analysis.

 

[Sgchick]

Toby puffers (all puffers really) tend to eat invertebrates so your clean up crew would be at risk. Depending on the species of clownfish, they may or may not be doable in your sized tank. Possum wrasses are excellent in your sized tank.

Thanks Steve!! I may have to rethink my puffer...for now... Guess I could always get another tank.

 

[Sgchick]

Revised stocking list for my 29 Biocube ...2 ocillaris/percula clownfish, one possum wrasse, I watchman gobie and shrimp. Will that work? Do I have room for any more invertebrates? Any particular order to add them? Thanks

 

[snorvich]

Revised stocking list for my 29 Biocube ...2 ocillaris/percula clownfish, one possum wrasse, I watchman gobie and shrimp. Will that work? Do I have room for any more invertebrates? Thanks

Yes, that will work well. Invertebrates don't really count towards bioload, but there is interaction there to consider as well. For example, hermits and snails tend to be mutually exclusive since hermits kill snails for their shells. If there is insufficient food available for any animal, the population of that animal will decrease until food available matches population requirements for food.

 

[Sgchick]

Yes, that will work well. Invertebrates don't really count towards bioload, but there is interaction there to consider as well. For example, hermits and snails tend to be mutually exclusive since hermits kill snails for their shells. If there is insufficient food available for any animal, the population of that animal will decrease until food available matches population requirements for food.

Thanks again Steve!! Does the order that I add them to my tank matter?

 

[snorvich]

Thanks again Steve!! Does the order that I add them to my tank matter?

In your case, no. But the general rule is always to add most aggressive last, most passive/shy first. In some cases, even adding the most aggressive last is not sufficient but that is not relevant in your case.