If I just go one clown would this be a problem or should I stick with the pair of clowns and just not get the goby shrimp pair?
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A single clown will eventually become female and will be correspondingly aggressive. I would do the pair of clowns and no other fish. Inverts or corals would be fine though.
Thanks for the advise, I'm glad I found out it was a bad idea ahead of time
Thanks again.
A harem of Tanakas sounds great, as does one of each of the three.
What tankmates do/have you had with these peaceful fish? I've pretty much decided on a tankful of small, peaceful fish.
I was reading some of the earlier posts and wondered why it is you prefer snails to crabs?
Being an old diver, I strongly prefer a large tank (mine are all 8 footers, although 30 inches deep) with small fish which can act naturally as opposed to largish fish that make tanks look small. I love firefish, flasher wrasses, pygmy wrasses, dragonets (including weird ones like finger dragonets), yellow jawfish, etc. For me they are much more exciting and behaviorally interesting than tangs. If not a reef tank, dwarf angels are also nice active fish. But, keep in mind, I am a definite minority here. If a reef tank, one can add pipefish, etc. I have a 40 gallon refugium on both tanks so copepods are plentiful.
Great, Pipes were on the shortlist, I have a 75 gallon sump with a big Chaeto/pod refugium.
I think my larger fish days are over.
Well, I feel you will be a much more involved aquarist with a natural behavior focus. But that is admittedly my bias. I can remember many 90 minute dives spending the entire dive within a square meter.
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In the next week or two I will have a 65g tank ready for fish. I've been going over many different species that are both interesting and not too outrageous to attempt to breed. I have come up with a list of 4 pairs of fish, with most having an alternative (maybe thoughts on which of the options would be a better fit). The tank will have a 20L sump/fuge with a Vertex Omega 130 skimmer. Not looking into spending too much time with the corals, and as such plan to stick with mostly softies with maybe some choice SPS.
In no particular order:
O. longirostris (a friend has a pair that is eating pellets and are at a good weight)
L. eukrines or L. rubre (currently trying to get some more information on the prior)
C. potteri or P./C. multifasciata (Kevin at DD is acclimating both species for me, the latter won't be shipped until they eat flake or pellet, the prior will be at least eating frozen solidly)
Now the tricky part of Wetmorella tanakai or albofasciata, Pseudocheilinops ataenia, or possibly some sort of pipefish (bluestripe or Janss possibly?) pair
In no particular order:
O. longirostris (a friend has a pair that is eating pellets and are at a good weight)
L. eukrines or L. rubre (currently trying to get some more information on the prior)
C. potteri or P./C. multifasciata (Kevin at DD is acclimating both species for me, the latter won't be shipped until they eat flake or pellet, the prior will be at least eating frozen solidly)
Now the tricky part of Wetmorella tanakai or albofasciata, Pseudocheilinops ataenia, or possibly some sort of pipefish (bluestripe or Janss possibly?) pair
Although I have fish mate in my tanks, I do not breed fish. I would not be the one to advise on these. I suspect, however, that multiple pairs of fish may inhibit breeding behavior. I also know that extremely good nutrition for the breeding pairs is required as well as a way of nurturing the young (which I am not knowledgeable about)
Remember, that my interests are the extreme minority in this hobby. Most folks want large fish and what I consider crowded tanks. I am a fish behaviorist.
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I understand. My question was more along the lines if the fish I listed are compatible with each other. BTW, I'm with you and John on seeing fish behave in a natural manner and not liking too many big fish.
Now I understand. O. longirostris is a very gentle fish that needs peaceful tank mates and either
Wetmorella tanakai or albofasciata would be a great match for those. You are also probably going to need controllable lighting. In my case, mating occurs at "sunset". I vaguely recall that someone had O. longirostris mate? But I am not sure as it has been a few years. Kevin would know.
snorvich, can you explain what you mean about a six-line not being consistent with a scooter blenny and firefish? Will the wrasse harass either of them?
Regarding the yelllow tail damsel - they're less aggressive than most other damsels, correct? He would be the last fish stocked, so it shouldn't be much of an issue then?
Regarding the yelllow tail damsel - they're less aggressive than most other damsels, correct? He would be the last fish stocked, so it shouldn't be much of an issue then?
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90 gallon mixed reef w/ 30g sump: 2.5 years old tank. Current stock has been together for 1.5 years.
Current Stock:
2x Ocellaris Clownfish
2x Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred
1x Blue Sapphire Damselfish
Future prospects:
1x Orange Spotted Blenny
1x Royal Gramma Basslet
1x Yellow Assessor or Randall's Assessor
3x Black Axil Chromis
1x Lemon Chromis
1x Red Mandarin
Current Stock:
2x Ocellaris Clownfish
2x Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred
1x Blue Sapphire Damselfish
Future prospects:
1x Orange Spotted Blenny
1x Royal Gramma Basslet
1x Yellow Assessor or Randall's Assessor
3x Black Axil Chromis
1x Lemon Chromis
1x Red Mandarin
Great minds think alike is my only possible response.
Thanks again, I'l keep you updated. (Not through PM)
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