PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[nlgill13]

Thanks Snorvich! The damsel is actually the shyest fish in the tank while the clowns and cardinals have been sharing dominance of the tank.

 

[milty76]

Hello,
I am setting up a Red Sea Max 250 (66gal)with 25kg live rock, 35kg live sand. Here is my intended stock list:
1 blue dot jawfish
1 purple firefish
1 pair tank bred black/white clowns
1 coral beauty
1 red mandarin(after tank is established)
1 fire shrimp
1cleaner shrimp
and the regular cuc.

I would like to add a copperband butterfly but I think its not enough room for him.
What do you think of the list?
Thanks

 

[snorvich]

Hello,
I am setting up a Red Sea Max 250 (66gal)with 25kg live rock, 35kg live sand. Here is my intended stock list:
1 blue dot jawfish for best results, this fish needs cooler temperatures; do you have a chiller? 72-75 F would be the max since they are collected in the sea of cortez
1 purple firefish
1 pair tank bred black/white clowns
1 coral beauty
1 red mandarin(after tank is established)
1 fire shrimp
1cleaner shrimp
and the regular cuc.

fine with the annotation on the one fish

I would like to add a copperband butterfly but I think its not enough room for him. not with a mandarin, but only marginal without
What do you think of the list?
Thanks

 

[milty76]

No chiller yet. I was gonna see how it ran without 1st. Thanks for the advice.

 

[snorvich]

No chiller yet. I was gonna see how it ran without 1st. Thanks for the advice.

Temperature may be a function of lights.

 

[wicz101]

Can you mix different cardinal fish or different chromis in the same tank?

 

[snorvich]

Can you mix different cardinal fish or different chromis in the same tank?

Yes, but the chromis problem of winnowing will still exist.

 

[gouramiguy]

I currently have one Slippery Dick wrasse. It's a really cool fish and was thinking about getting 3-4 more for a harem in a 120-gallon tank. Any concerns on keeping multiple halichores wrasses in a 5-foot tank?

 

[Benthos13]

Sixline Wrasse, Royal Gramma, and a banded coral shrimp in a 10 gallon tank. There is 10 pounds of live rock and about 1.5" live sand. For filtration: AC 70 with filter floss, chemi pure elite, and chaeto. 20% water changes will be done weekly.

 

[airtime23]

I know that it depends on the size of the fish, but what would be the ballpark number for a 225 gallon (72" x 27" x 27") mixed reef with a 50 gallon sump, 300 lbs of LR, and a 2 inch live sand bed.

1) I'd like to have 4 tangs (Yellow, Kole, Hippo, and Blonde Naso), if it's possible.
2) A pair of percula clowns.
3) Either a flame or coral beauty angel (yes, I know that some may nip at corals).
4) A bluethroat trigger.
5) A wrasse to be determined later (reef-safe one, of course).
6) 3 chromis
7) 3 anthias
8) Bicolor blenny
9) Diamond goby
10) Damsel (one of the least aggressive ones - or are they all mean?)
11) Mandarin (once the tank is established, of course, perhaps after a year or so)

Is that too many fish?
If not, how many more can I add?

Would welcome any input.

Thanks!

 

[BartenderSteve]

Tank will be 75 gallon (48"x18"x21") with a 30 gallon sump. 3" deep sand with as much rock as I can get.

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Starry Blenny
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish or Saddleback Butterflyfish (would either thrive in this size tank?)
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang
1 Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis)
1 Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus solorensis)
1 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
1 Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse
1 Leopard Wrasse
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Snails

Can there be too many shrimp? How many of each species would be good in my size tank?

Would it be better to only acquire 1 flasher and fairy wrasse and get a group of leopard wrassses instead? Or are there too many fish?

Do you consider one type of leopard wrasse less difficult to keep than the others?

 

[Squba]

I am only at the planning stage, but am looking at the 29 gallon Biocube HQI. Mixed Reef.

1 x Firefish Goby - (Nemateleotris magnifica)
2 x Ocellaris Clownfish - (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
1 x Pistol Shrimp Tiger/Red Banded

This might be pushing it but if anything else goes in it would be
2 x Banggai Cardinal - (Pterapogon kauderni) mated pair.

Once the tank is properly established I would love to add a clam
Derasa Clam (Tridacna derasa)

 

[snorvich]

I currently have one Slippery Dick wrasse. It's a really cool fish and was thinking about getting 3-4 more for a harem in a 120-gallon tank. Any concerns on keeping multiple halichores wrasses in a 5-foot tank?

Not really, although I have never tried it, other than competition for food. I do not think multiple males will work, however.

 

[snorvich]

Sixline Wrasse, Royal Gramma, and a banded coral shrimp in a 10 gallon tank. There is 10 pounds of live rock and about 1.5" live sand. For filtration: AC 70 with filter floss, chemi pure elite, and chaeto. 20% water changes will be done weekly.

six lines are aggressive, especially in very small tanks, banded coral shrimp can take fish

 

[snorvich]

I know that it depends on the size of the fish, but what would be the ballpark number for a 225 gallon (72" x 27" x 27") mixed reef with a 50 gallon sump, 300 lbs of LR, and a 2 inch live sand bed.

Impossible to answer, because, as you said, it depends on fish behavior

1) I'd like to have 4 tangs (Yellow, Kole, Hippo, and Blonde Naso), if it's possible. Four tangs, two of which are very large, in a six foot tank is unlikely to succeed long term
2) A pair of percula clowns.
3) Either a flame or coral beauty angel (yes, I know that some may nip at corals). correct, no dwarf angel is coral safe, especially LPS
4) A bluethroat trigger. no trigger is totally invert safe in the long run
5) A wrasse to be determined later (reef-safe one, of course).
6) 3 chromis will become one over time
7) 3 anthias anthias do best if fed multiple times per day so depends on species
8) Bicolor blenny
9) Diamond goby
10) Damsel (one of the least aggressive ones - or are they all mean?) no, and in your sized tank should not be an issue
11) Mandarin (once the tank is established, of course, perhaps after a year or so)

Is that too many fish? 5 largish fish, 4 of which occupy the same ecological niche may not be peaceful long term
If not, how many more can I add?

Would welcome any input.

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

Tank will be 75 gallon (48"x18"x21") with a 30 gallon sump. 3" deep sand with as much rock as I can get.

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Starry Blenny
1 Flame Angelfish
1 Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish or Saddleback Butterflyfish (would either thrive in this size tank?) either should be fine
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang
1 Orange-Back Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis)
1 Red Head Solon Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus solorensis) on the aggressive side and will lose coloration absent a female
1 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
1 Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse
1 Leopard Wrasse
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Snails

Can there be too many shrimp? How many of each species would be good in my size tank? cleaners should only be two, peppermint, as many as you want

Would it be better to only acquire 1 flasher and fairy wrasse and get a group of leopard wrassses instead? Or are there too many fish? leopard wrasses would be more difficult for a couple of reasons: only one male can coexist, plus competition for food in a relatively smallish tank

Do you consider one type of leopard wrasse less difficult to keep than the others? I have never had a problem keeping them if I got a healthy fish; but remember, I have large tanks with plenty of natural food. All will eat supplied food, but all also hunt the tank for copepods

 

[snorvich]

I am only at the planning stage, but am looking at the 29 gallon Biocube HQI. Mixed Reef.

1 x Firefish Goby - (Nemateleotris magnifica)
2 x Ocellaris Clownfish - (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
1 x Pistol Shrimp Tiger/Red Banded

This might be pushing it but if anything else goes in it would be
2 x Banggai Cardinal - (Pterapogon kauderni) mated pair. tank raised only

Once the tank is properly established I would love to add a clam
Derasa Clam (Tridacna derasa)

That plan will be fine

 

[Squba]

That plan will be fine

Woho! I guess reading through every single post in this thread taught me something :-D

Thank you!

 

[snorvich]

Woho! I guess reading through every single post in this thread taught me something :-D

Thank you!

You read them all!!!!??? I think over the two groups of posts (the thread had to be split twice) we are up around 15,000 posts (the current thread alone has 9000 or so).

 

[Squba]

You read them all!!!!??? I think over the two groups of posts (the thread had to be split twice) we are up around 15,000 posts (the current thread alone has 9000 or so).

I started reading after the latest split. so not "all"
Most common comments besides to large fish in to small tanks seems to be underestimating the aggressiveness of six-line wrasse, mandarin eating habits and multiple chromis :-D