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[coryhupfer]

setup:
55 gal tank uknown amount of rock or type got it all from my brother for free,with a aqua c remora S protein skimmer , whisper 60 HOB filter ,fluval sea 48-57" led light
fish:
pretty decent sized maroon clown
2 1/2 3ish maybe inch dwarf black painted angler
and a flame hawkfish which i just added today because my lionfish just died due to unknown cause?
and a fire urchin which ate the carcass of the lionfish before i could find out it died.
corals:
small green bubble tip who wasnt doing too good because my ph and calcium was low but i have fixed it all and got my supplements
a trumpet coral which has been growing new heads at a decent rate
a frogspawn which has also grown a good amount
a couple types of zoas on a few rocks
and a lot of aiptasia which i just purchased a med. matted filefish to hopefully help with that problem. should i stop adding fish or is there room for a green manderin possibly?ive really been wanting a red one but green will do and my lfs finally got one big enough that i think my frogfish won't be able to eat should i add it or would that be too much for my tank?

 

[mujtaba]

This would be crowded and the two fish I suggested not be included would have difficulty

Thanks alot for the valuable advice. Just for the sake of my knowledge...you mentioned Yellow and sailfin tang as "definitely not" for my tank. Is it that i shouldn't keep both together or i shouldn't even go for 1 of these tangs? Thanks

 

[snorvich]

Hi Steve, appreciate all your help. I just discovered, this evening, that my male Ocellaris clown was dead - looks to me like he had a gash behind his gills, which points me to the Kole Tang having slashed him. Anyway, he's dead and my larger female is alone now. All other fish are fine. Do you think I could introduce another smaller clown to pair with the female? I had the clowns for two years. Thanks!

Yes. Be sure it is the same species and tiny. More likely you have an invert such as a banded coral shrimp, or crab rather than the kole tang.

 

[snorvich]

setup:
55 gal tank uknown amount of rock or type got it all from my brother for free,with a aqua c remora S protein skimmer , whisper 60 HOB filter ,fluval sea 48-57" led light
fish:
pretty decent sized maroon clown
2 1/2 3ish maybe inch dwarf black painted angler
and a flame hawkfish which i just added today because my lionfish just died due to unknown cause?
and a fire urchin which ate the carcass of the lionfish before i could find out it died.
corals:
small green bubble tip who wasnt doing too good because my ph and calcium was low but i have fixed it all and got my supplements
a trumpet coral which has been growing new heads at a decent rate
a frogspawn which has also grown a good amount
a couple types of zoas on a few rocks
and a lot of aiptasia which i just purchased a med. matted filefish to hopefully help with that problem. should i stop adding fish or is there room for a green manderin possibly?ive really been wanting a red one but green will do and my lfs finally got one big enough that i think my frogfish won't be able to eat should i add it or would that be too much for my tank?

Sorry, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish community tanks where one fish will try to eat its tank mates. Try your question here.

 

[wcharon]

Steve...

Just want to know and be sure what is the general rule and probablly this will not be the same for all the types of fishes.

If i have an established fish of one species and will like to put another of the same species should the new one be smaller or larger than the established? In my case i a thinking in Tangs, Anthias or Clowns.

Thanks Buddy...

 

[devimik]

Yes. Be sure it is the same species and tiny. More likely you have an invert such as a banded coral shrimp, or crab rather than the kole tang.

Thanks again Steve. No banded coral shrimp, just a couple of peppermints and a skunk banded cleaner. I do have an emerald crab, but these clowns are way to fast for it and it's small, plus it's claws are not sharp. My Kole Tang is pretty aggressive - seems to dislike my Royal Gramma - he had a slice in his side too about 5 months ago and it healed well, so he's fine now, but hides more in the rockwork. I had noticed the Kole swimming around the clowns more often in the last week or two - in their corner where they hang out. I am thinking the only thing that could cut a fish like that would be the Kole since the only crab I have is the emerald.

So, on the replacement clown, the smaller the better?

 

[coryhupfer]

alright well thanks for pointing me in the right direction

 

[snorvich]

Steve...

Just want to know and be sure what is the general rule and probablly this will not be the same for all the types of fishes.

If i have an established fish of one species and will like to put another of the same species should the new one be smaller or larger than the established? In my case i a thinking in Tangs, Anthias or Clowns.

Thanks Buddy...

In general, adding a second of a given species will be a problem except in the case of social fish such as anthias. In large tanks adding two juveniles will often work where they "work out" which will be female and which will be male. In the case of clownfish, you must add a juvenile, sexually undifferentiated one.

 

[snorvich]

So, on the replacement clown, the smaller the better?

Exactly. Must be a juvenile.

 

[wcharon]

In general, adding a second of a given species will be a problem except in the case of social fish such as anthias. In large tanks adding two juveniles will often work where they "work out" which will be female and which will be male. In the case of clownfish, you must add a juvenile, sexually undifferentiated one.

Thanks... Excellent explanation...

 

[Steelen]

Currently in the planning phase. Got an IM Fusion 40 through the doorbusters at BRS.

Will be doing 10% weekly water changes or more if thats more recommended. Right now I have the following in mind I hope to stick to mostly juvies so that they can grow as I grow in the hobby:

• Wyoming Clowns (x2)
• Goby w/ Shrimp

This is what we have in mind right now. Unsure about the kind of goby we want.

Not sure what else we can add. I like the thought of adding Chromis (3-5) but afraid of the bio load.

Just something with color. Looking for suggestions as well as feedback on our current selection.

 

[snorvich]

Currently in the planning phase. Got an IM Fusion 40 through the doorbusters at BRS.

Will be doing 10% weekly water changes or more if thats more recommended. Right now I have the following in mind I hope to stick to mostly juvies so that they can grow as I grow in the hobby:

• Wyoming Clowns (x2)
• Goby w/ Shrimp

This is what we have in mind right now. Unsure about the kind of goby we want.

Good so far . . .

Not sure what else we can add. I like the thought of adding Chromis (3-5) but afraid of the bio load. A group of chromis will become one over time as the dominant one kills off the rest

Just something with color. Looking for suggestions as well as feedback on our current selection.

While I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons, I am always happy to review stocking plans provided tank size is also provided.

 

[linaalf]

Hi all,

My tank is about nine months old. Was set up around late March this year. We've had some issues, probably mostly due to listening to the LFS. But we shall overcome!

Original Equipment: 26 gal custom set up. Filstar XL. Coralife Actinic light.
Added in Sept: Power head.
Just added: CPR bak-pak 2 skimmer, UV sterilizer.

In the beginning: We had two tank raised perculas (ocellaris and da vinci) and a blood shriimp. The first addition was a valentini puffer. He was small but we suspected he was nipping them so we took him back. We had a bubble tip anemone and long spine urchin at one point but they both had issues. I think the tank couldn't support the urchin yet (I did NOT approve purchase of him, I know if was probably immature). The clowns wouldn't take to the anemone and they bit him and he did not do well. He was pretty much pooping all the time. We gave him back to the LFS for rehab. Our water always tested fine (and still does). PH, phosphates, salinity, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia- everything has always been fine! The tank even cycled within two weeks....BUT......

The. Red. Slime. It started in June. LFS told us to get the red slime remover. We tried it. Minimized feedings. Weekly 1/4 water changes. Minimized the light to about 6 hours/day. Tried to read up on it. Nothing really helped. In late September my tank co-parent dosed too much red slime and my clownies died I was devastated.

Since then we started buckling down on the red slime even more. Got some purple up as well. Added the equipment you see at the top. The LFS NEVER TOLD US TO GET A SKIMMER IN THE FIRST PLACE. We surmise this might have caused some of the slime. THe slime is at a minimum now but we are still very cautious of it and are being adamant now that we know more about it.

Current livestock: blood shrimp, 6 small hermits, firefish goby.

My questions: My tank co-parent wants maroon clowns. Will they be too aggressive with the firefish? Does anyone recommend any other equipment? The LFS suggested a wet/dry filter but they would sell us gills to go live in the tank if they could. -__-
What would be some other suitable tank mates? Would love to get another anemone and maybe a mandarin once the one year mark rolls around.

Also- if this is posted in the wrong place someone please lmk and I will repost. Thanks in advance!!

 

[snorvich]

Hi all,

My tank is about nine months old. Was set up around late March this year. We've had some issues, probably mostly due to listening to the LFS. But we shall overcome!

Original Equipment: 26 gal custom set up. Filstar XL. Coralife Actinic light.
Added in Sept: Power head.
Just added: CPR bak-pak 2 skimmer, UV sterilizer.

In the beginning: We had two tank raised perculas (ocellaris and da vinci) and a blood shriimp. The first addition was a valentini puffer. He was small but we suspected he was nipping them so we took him back. We had a bubble tip anemone and long spine urchin at one point but they both had issues. I think the tank couldn't support the urchin yet (I did NOT approve purchase of him, I know if was probably immature). The clowns wouldn't take to the anemone and they bit him and he did not do well. He was pretty much pooping all the time. We gave him back to the LFS for rehab. Our water always tested fine (and still does). PH, phosphates, salinity, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia- everything has always been fine! The tank even cycled within two weeks....BUT......

The. Red. Slime. It started in June. LFS told us to get the red slime remover. We tried it. Minimized feedings. Weekly 1/4 water changes. Minimized the light to about 6 hours/day. Tried to read up on it. Nothing really helped. In late September my tank co-parent dosed too much red slime and my clownies died I was devastated.

Since then we started buckling down on the red slime even more. Got some purple up as well. Added the equipment you see at the top. The LFS NEVER TOLD US TO GET A SKIMMER IN THE FIRST PLACE. We surmise this might have caused some of the slime. THe slime is at a minimum now but we are still very cautious of it and are being adamant now that we know more about it.

Current livestock: blood shrimp, 6 small hermits, firefish goby.

My questions: My tank co-parent wants maroon clowns. Will they be too aggressive with the firefish? Does anyone recommend any other equipment? The LFS suggested a wet/dry filter but they would sell us gills to go live in the tank if they could. -__-
What would be some other suitable tank mates? Would love to get another anemone and maybe a mandarin once the one year mark rolls around.

Also- if this is posted in the wrong place someone please lmk and I will repost. Thanks in advance!!

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility and is answered only by me. A pair of maroon clownfish need more space than your current tank provides and they would intimidate and kill the firefish. You have a small tank which requires a small number of small fish that are behaviorally compatible.

If you want general commentary, I suggest posting in the Nano Reefs Forum where there will be many similar users or in the New to the Hobby forum as a separate thread.

 

[Deep Reef]

Setup: 120 gal mixed reef DT w/40 gal sump
Current fish: kole tang, six line wrasse, 2 ocellaris clowns, Yellow watchmen goby, midas blenny, royal gamma, kaudern's cardinal and a flame angle.

Would it be acceptable to add a yellow tang?

I am also thinking about a pair of fairy wrasse

thanks for your help

 

[snorvich]

Setup: 120 gal mixed reef DT w/40 gal sump
Current fish: kole tang, six line wrasse, 2 ocellaris clowns, Yellow watchmen goby, midas blenny, royal gamma, kaudern's cardinal and a flame angle.

Would it be acceptable to add a yellow tang? long term, with another tang, this sized tank may not have sufficient algae. Also an established yellow tang will make adding additional fish difficult

I am also thinking about a pair of fairy wrasse If you take out the six line wrasse . . .

thanks for your help

Always a pleasure

 

[Deep Reef]

So it is ok to add the tang?

 

[tfrechette]

Have a Nuvo 30L (36 x 13 x 13) 20 lbs LR and LS.

Tank is 4 months old. Presently have:

Pair Kaudern cardinals
Male Flasher type wrasse

They all hide in the rocks until feeding. Would like to get something in there I can actually see.

I had a horned blenny in another tank that was amusing to watch. However I don't think my tank had enough algae for it to eat and I lost him after 2 months.

Thanks.

 

[mls228]

Setup:
120 (60") display with 120 basement sump
Bare bottom display, 4" sand in basement refuge
Established for 2.5 years
Mixed LPS and SPS reef

Current stock:
two skunk cleaner shrimp
coral banded shrimp
occelaris clown pair
purple stripe dottyback
starry blenny
coral beauty angel
yellow tang


Wishlist:
banggai cardinal
flame angel
midas blenny
anthias (ignitus? or one that doesn't require multiple feedings/day)
kole tang

Comments:
The dottyback has never shown aggression. The starry blenny seems to be the most dominant fish in the tank followed by anything that goes near the torch coral where the female clown sits.

Question:
Can I add any of the fish from the wishlist?

Thanks,

Mark

 

[snorvich]

So it is ok to add the tang?

I would not put a second tang in this sized tank.