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[NarumiHayaashi]

Thanks a Lot

Thanks a Lot

Actually, it will be impossible.

Oh, well that definitely changes things. I'll have to look up some non-aggressive species then. Think you can head me in the right direction? and thanks

 

[snorvich]

Oh, well that definitely changes things. I'll have to look up some non-aggressive species then. Think you can head me in the right direction? and thanks

Well, Live Aquaria has pretty good descriptions in their marine fish section. I would look there as a great place to evaluate. It also, pretty realistically, gives recommended minimum tank sizes.

 

[Butchhe]

I have a 29g with a mated pair of false percs (a 3.5" f/2.5" m) and a YWG/Pistol shrimp combo. I know from reading the insightful information you have provided in this thread that the clowns will pretty much rule the tank. I would like to add 1 more fish that could hold its own against the clowns. I was thinking of putting a 6 line wrasse in there due to their reputation.

Would that be a good choice or would you suggest something different like a dwarf angel due to their size? I plan to make this tank a anemone only tank in the near future (currently a FOWLR) if that aids in the decision making.

 

[reckless1]

hello i have a 72x30x30 reef tank cuurently stocked with:
1 x chromis (started with 12)
1 x 5inch naso tang
1 x 3inch yellow tang
2 x blue hippo
1 x flame hawk

i have am looking at a crosshatch trigger, but i have a question about this fish as it relates to tank temperature (what temperature should the water be kept at).. are their any other requirements for this fish based on my setup....

sincerely,

robin

 

[reckless1]

magnificent foxface

magnificent foxface

also planning on adding a magnificent foxface

 

[snorvich]

I have a 29g with a mated pair of false percs (a 3.5" f/2.5" m) and a YWG/Pistol shrimp combo. I know from reading the insightful information you have provided in this thread that the clowns will pretty much rule the tank. I would like to add 1 more fish that could hold its own against the clowns. I was thinking of putting a 6 line wrasse in there due to their reputation.

Would that be a good choice or would you suggest something different like a dwarf angel due to their size? I plan to make this tank a anemone only tank in the near future (currently a FOWLR) if that aids in the decision making.

I do not believe in matching aggression with aggression. What happens there is that ultimately there is likely to be a winner, especially in a small tank where territories cannot be established. If you are going to go the anemone direction, dwarf angels may still work and they would be less hassled by your mated clownfish

 

[snorvich]

hello i have a 72x30x30 reef tank cuurently stocked with:
1 x chromis (started with 12)
1 x 5inch naso tang
1 x 3inch yellow tang
2 x blue hippo
1 x flame hawk

i have am looking at a crosshatch trigger, but i have a question about this fish as it relates to tank temperature (what temperature should the water be kept at).. are their any other requirements for this fish based on my setup....

sincerely,

robin

I love crosshatch triggers. Friendly and gorgeous but rather hard on invertebrates. I generally recommend keeping water temperature at the middle 70's for this fish.

 

[snorvich]

also planning on adding a magnificent foxface

My only concern there is that you have a LOT of fish that will be large and love to swim (Naso, hepatus, etc.) and are algae grazers. In my opinion your tank is not large enough (length) for those fish already.

 

[reckless1]

thanks steve, i basically had them before without giving it much thought. now i am researching every fish before i purchase so that i dont have any problems later on and then have to worry about what to do with them. most people down here in jamaica dont have large tanks so its not like i could eventually sell or give them to someone else... so i will take all this into consideration...

robin

 

[reckless1]

some people say you can keep several yellow tangs in the same tank (3 or 4) without having them fight (more than two)... is this actually so???

 

[snorvich]

some people say you can keep several yellow tangs in the same tank (3 or 4) without having them fight (more than two)... is this actually so???

It depends on tank size. Any grazers will be aggressive towards others that inhabit their ecological niche and if they feel crowded, they will reduce the number of competitors or be reduced themselves. Unfortunately, this is exceptionally relative, which means that as a fish grows, their perception of their place in the environment changes. So, a 3 inch fish may perceive that they are fine in a six foot tank with other grazers, but when it reaches 9 inches or a foot, that perception will be modified. I know I am getting into more complex issues than you are really asking about, so I apologize.

By the way, I have done a few (200-300) dives in Jamaica before the reefs became so fished out, and it is still one of my favorite places. I took my divemaster course there and fondly remember eating in the nontouristy places.

 

[Butchhe]

I do not believe in matching aggression with aggression. What happens there is that ultimately there is likely to be a winner, especially in a small tank where territories cannot be established. If you are going to go the anemone direction, dwarf angels may still work and they would be less hassled by your mated clownfish

Thanks Steve. I appreciate your guidance.

 

[tgr26]

I do not believe in matching aggression with aggression. What happens there is that ultimately there is likely to be a winner, especially in a small tank where territories cannot be established. If you are going to go the anemone direction, dwarf angels may still work and they would be less hassled by your mated clownfish

Will this be the case if I've had a single clownfish in my tank for a few months and want to add another fish (not a clownfish)? Do you think it's best to add two fish at the same time to ease the likelihood of one-on-one aggression?

I want to add a Cardinalfish and then not sure on the other one.

 

[snorvich]

Will this be the case if I've had a single clownfish in my tank for a few months and want to add another fish (not a clownfish)? Do you think it's best to add two fish at the same time to ease the likelihood of one-on-one aggression?

I want to add a Cardinalfish and then not sure on the other one.

A single unsexually differentiated clownfish will not be as aggressive as one that has become female. If you pick fish that are not aggressive there is less need to worry about such issues. However, if you choose fish, e.g. firefish, that are naturally timid, they should be introduced first.

 

[reckless1]

It depends on tank size. Any grazers will be aggressive towards others that inhabit their ecological niche and if they feel crowded, they will reduce the number of competitors or be reduced themselves. Unfortunately, this is exceptionally relative, which means that as a fish grows, their perception of their place in the environment changes. So, a 3 inch fish may perceive that they are fine in a six foot tank with other grazers, but when it reaches 9 inches or a foot, that perception will be modified. I know I am getting into more complex issues than you are really asking about, so I apologize.

By the way, I have done a few (200-300) dives in Jamaica before the reefs became so fished out, and it is still one of my favorite places. I took my divemaster course there and fondly remember eating in the nontouristy places.

thanks for the info steve, and you are not babbling on... you have actually really opened my eyes with your explanation and i never considered any of it before.... i dive frequently still but unfortunately the pristine reefs we once had that were filled with acros and other corals have all being destroyed now mostly with mans influence and some with mother nature. to see anything of worth now we have to go below 70 feet...

thanks again for the great insightfull info....

robin

 

[saigonsteve]

new setup

new setup

Will be stocking a 135 gallon tank this weekend:
Has a chiller,
skimmer of a Vietnamese variety,
a filter box filled with ceramic like tubes and blocks.
3 lights , about 36" long for each.

Sand bottom

Options available to me include numerous soft and hard corals, and up to 30 fish.

Of course with a 3 year old at home I will have to include at least a couple of clown fish and the appropriate coral for their habitat.

They have some tube corals, the mobile kind, am not sure of the phylla name or hobbyist name, as well as an extensive selection of other corals.

Also any comments on using a sand base instead of the crushed coral that is much more common here. i understand that bottom feeders cannot be used on the coral, and it can accumulate detrital material faster than the sand base does. Any downside to using a sand base?

Saign Steve

 

[snorvich]

Will be stocking a 135 gallon tank this weekend:
Has a chiller,
skimmer of a Vietnamese variety,
a filter box filled with ceramic like tubes and blocks.
3 lights , about 36" long for each.

Sand bottom

Options available to me include numerous soft and hard corals, and up to 30 fish.

Of course with a 3 year old at home I will have to include at least a couple of clown fish and the appropriate coral for their habitat.

They have some tube corals, the mobile kind, am not sure of the phylla name or hobbyist name, as well as an extensive selection of other corals.

Also any comments on using a sand base instead of the crushed coral that is much more common here. i understand that bottom feeders cannot be used on the coral, and it can accumulate detrital material faster than the sand base does. Any downside to using a sand base?

Saign Steve

While this thread is about fish compatibility with each other and with the environment you are providing, I personally much prefer sand over crushed coral.

 

[redwingrob40]

So getting ready to add some more fish to my tank. 55 Gallon reef that has been running for a year now. Mainly SPS and all fish have been in QT for the past 10 weeks due to ich, getting ready to put em back into the DT and want to add a some new fish.

Here is what I currently have:
Occ/Perc pair
Pink spot goby
Lubbocks Fairy wrasse

So here is my narrowed down list. What do you think?

Red lined wrasse
Red velvet fairy wrasse
Lyretail anthias or starry blenny.

 

[snorvich]

So here is my narrowed down list. What do you think?

Red lined wrasse
Red velvet fairy wrasse
Lyretail anthias or starry blenny.

Your fish list is fine. How were you treating fish for ich?

 

[redwingrob40]

Your fish list is fine. How were you treating fish for ich?

Thanks for the response Steve. Cupramine in the QT at .5 ppm testing at first biweekly, but the last week every night (thanks for the suggestion) with a seachem copper test kit to make sure conc. was at .5 (total of 3 weeks treatment). Adding carbon this week, then will observe for the next two to make sure there is no relapse.