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[curnunnos]

1 more?

1 more?

hello, and once again thank you for all the advice on this thread.

i have 30g fowlr, no amonia / nitrates / phosphates etc current stock is
- possom wrasse
- firefish
- blue/green chromis
- silver belly wrasse (Halichoeres Leucoxanthus).

i would like a blue fish so my question is can i fit one more in, and if so would 1 of the following be compatible
- blue reef chromis. - my first choice, but will the other chromis preclude this?
- fireball angel
-pygmy (cherub) angel
- flameback angel

 

[Clivus]

Thanks for your help. How many of each species should I get? Also, I thought the Niger Trigger was a peaceful one. Do they get aggressive too?

 

[snorvich]

So other than choosing between the foxface and tang, the way I have them listed will work for the order I will add them to the tank?

1 - purple firefish - currently in DT
1 - hi fin red banded goby
1 - tiger watchman goby
1 - red headed goby
1 - bicolor blenny
2 - clownfish
1 - flame angel
1 - foxface lo or yellow tang

Yes, exactly. I think between the foxface or the yellow tang, you would be happier with the foxface.

 

[snorvich]

hello, and once again thank you for all the advice on this thread.

i have 30g fowlr, no amonia / nitrates / phosphates etc current stock is
- possom wrasse
- firefish
- blue/green chromis
- silver belly wrasse (Halichoeres Leucoxanthus).

i would like a blue fish so my question is can i fit one more in, and if so would 1 of the following be compatible
- blue reef chromis. - my first choice, but will the other chromis preclude this? probably will not work
- fireball angel
-pygmy (cherub) angel
- flameback angel

one of these should work fine but it is hard to advise among the three. I have a trio of flameback angels (much larger tank) and they are superb.

 

[mlott132]

Yes, exactly. I think between the foxface or the yellow tang, you would be happier with the foxface.

As always you are very helpful. Glad I check in here first before I buy.

 

[gotwins86]

Just starting out in saltwater, here is my plan.

75 gallon w/ live rock
20 gallon sump/refugium
Will have Protein Skimmer
Want it to be a reef with beginner corals

1 or 2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Royal Gamma
1 Midas Blenny
1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse or Flame Angelfish
1 Kole Yellow Eye Tang

2 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
Lots of Snails

Probably want to add a Goby of some type too, not sure which kind. Or maybe even a Green Mandarin down the road. Would that work with this set up?

Thanks. Would it be alright to have 1 orange and white clown and 1 black and white? Or is that not recomended?

Edit. U already answered the stocking. Trying to do this on my phone and I missed your answers in the quote.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks. Would it be alright to have 1 orange and white clown and 1 black and white? Or is that not recomended?

A. percula is still a percula no matter what color, similarly with A. occelaris. They do not care about colors, even if you do. Mixing species will not work well, however.

 

[mspake86]

56 gallon column tank

56 gallon column tank

I am setting up a 56 gallon column reef tank. Going to use LR and a canister filter and a protein skimmer. My intended fish are
Cinnamon Clown
Saddleback clown
Bicolor Angel
Purple Dottyback
Green mandarin

Going to have some snails and a fire shrimp too. Please let me know what u think

 

[snorvich]

I am setting up a 56 gallon column reef tank. Going to use LR and a canister filter and a protein skimmer. My intended fish are
Cinnamon Clown only one species of clown, although coloration for that species is irrelevant
Saddleback clown
Bicolor Angel
Purple Dottyback very aggressive
Green mandarin the odds of success in this sized tank would be very poor

Going to have some snails and a fire shrimp too. Please let me know what u think

 

[mspake86]

How about a mimic saddle puffer? And the royal gamma basslet

 

[snorvich]

How about a mimic saddle puffer? And the royal gamma basslet

a royal gramma is fine, a mimic valenti may be aggressive at times, nipping the fins of tank mates, leaving a circular hole as its mark. It will also eat invertebrates found in a reef tank.

 

[lolgranny]

Hey guys :wavehand:

Display is 180 gallon, roughly 300 gallons total. The tank has a 125 gallon sump, 40 gallon frag tank and a 40 gallon cryptic zone. The sump has a 20" x 14" x 10" area with a DBS and a bunch of lr rubble.

Skimmer - SRO 5000 int with a avast swabby
Running Gfo in a deltek reactor and carbon in another.
Have roughly 300 lbs of live rock which has been in a system for over 3 years and will be adding another 80. The display will have minimal rock work, I don't like he look of the wall.
I will have about 1/2" of sand in the display for the wrasses.
Doing 30 gallon water changes every week, changing carbon and Gfo out every 2.5 weeks.
I might add a bio pellet reactor down the road, but I've been pretty lucky with no no3 or po4 problems in previous tanks

As for my stock list here is what I'm thinking so far

Inverts....
30 or so Nass snails
20 creith snails
A serpent star
Another star, maybe a blue or orange one
Possible a conch for the sand
4 peppermint shrimp
A couple emerald crabs
2 cleaner shrimp

Fish...
8-12 anthias, maybe bartletts or loris
7-9 Chromis , the basic blue and green or Acares midget Chromis
2 platinum clownfish
1 sargassum triggerfish
1 Sohal tang, I was told no no noooo for this because it's overly aggressive
1 Achilles tang
1 chevron or purple
Trio of flasher wrasses
Pair or trio of fairy wrasses
Coris wrasse
Melanarus wrasse
Bi color Benny
Sand sifting goby

I think I'll keep out a trio of wrasses truthfully. The anthias and Chromis are smaller so I figured since I have a lot of fish they won't add a ton to the bio load.

Thoughts on how you would add them to the tank first 2 nd 3 rd... Ect ect

Thanks for all the help fellas
Dave

 

[snorvich]

Hey guys :wavehand:

This thread is answered by RC staff, in this case, me

Display is 180 gallon, roughly 300 gallons total. The tank has a 125 gallon sump, 40 gallon frag tank and a 40 gallon cryptic zone. The sump has a 20" x 14" x 10" area with a DBS and a bunch of lr rubble.

Skimmer - SRO 5000 int with a avast swabby
Running Gfo in a deltek reactor and carbon in another.
Have roughly 300 lbs of live rock which has been in a system for over 3 years and will be adding another 80. The display will have minimal rock work, I don't like he look of the wall.
I will have about 1/2" of sand in the display for the wrasses.
Doing 30 gallon water changes every week, changing carbon and Gfo out every 2.5 weeks.
I might add a bio pellet reactor down the road, but I've been pretty lucky with no no3 or po4 problems in previous tanks

As for my stock list here is what I'm thinking so far

Inverts....
30 or so Nass snails
20 creith snails
A serpent star
Another star, maybe a blue or orange one
Possible a conch for the sand
4 peppermint shrimp
A couple emerald crabs can take fish when hungry, I would avoid
2 cleaner shrimp

Fish...
8-12 anthias, maybe bartletts or loris bartlett's have a tendency to convert to males over time, Lori is gorgeous but is one of those requiring multiple feedings per day
7-9 Chromis , the basic blue and green or Acares midget Chromis

chromis, over time will winnow down to one or two

2 platinum clownfish
1 sargassum triggerfish
1 Sohal tang, I was told no no noooo for this because it's overly aggressive I strongly recommend against this fish; mean and aggressive
1 Achilles tang
1 chevron or purple chevron is excellent, purple can be aggressive
Trio of flasher wrasses
Pair or trio of fairy wrasses
Coris wrasse
Melanarus wrasse
Bi color Benny
Sand sifting goby will create sand storms and deplete your sand bed of desirable organisms, then starve

You have a LOT of fish in a tank that is only moderate in size, I suggest fewer

I think I'll keep out a trio of wrasses truthfully. The anthias and Chromis are smaller so I figured since I have a lot of fish they won't add a ton to the bio load. well, lori get to be almost 5 inches, eat a lot with the corresponding bioload usage

Thoughts on how you would add them to the tank first 2 nd 3 rd... Ect ect Always most aggressive last, most gentle first

Thanks for all the help fellas
Dave

 

[lolgranny]

Hey Steve,

Thanks for the input!

I will stay away from the Sohal as I thought I would end up doing. Just wanted some added input

What anthias would u suggest if it was yourself, or what would u reccomend number wise for bartletts to keep them all from changing to males. Ideally , as most would want is one male and a bunch of females. I prefer them over loris and I hear both are fairly easy to keep. I will be feeding in the am, and 2 times during the day with a auto feeder so hopefully that will be enough. I can always up it.

Chromis are weird, I agree. I had 5 in my 75 g and have had 3 for years now. I want a lot of activity so I thought a lot of the smaller fish would look cool. Do they always end up dwindling down or is there a magic number or even a ideall one?

I plan on having a shallow sand bed so I want to make sure I don't get a lot of debris fought up in there. Do u have any suggestions on top of what I have to avoid having to cleaning the sand often. I'm use to having bare bottom, but wrasses like the sand so I want to have them happy.

Thanks again I appreciate any input

 

[snorvich]

Hey Steve,

Thanks for the input!

I will stay away from the Sohal as I thought I would end up doing. Just wanted some added input

What anthias would u suggest if it was yourself,

I like resplendent or carberryi but if you are willing to deal with the feeding requirements, Evansi are gorgeous

or what would u reccomend number wise for bartletts to keep them all from changing to males.

No recommended number

Ideally , as most would want is one male and a bunch of females. I prefer them over loris and I hear both are fairly easy to keep.

Correct

I will be feeding in the am, and 2 times during the day with a auto feeder so hopefully that will be enough. I can always up it.

getting anthias on pellets requires a bit of work

Chromis are weird, I agree. I had 5 in my 75 g and have had 3 for years now. I want a lot of activity so I thought a lot of the smaller fish would look cool. Do they always end up dwindling down or is there a magic number or even a ideall one?

there is no ideal number.

I plan on having a shallow sand bed so I want to make sure I don't get a lot of debris fought up in there. Do u have any suggestions on top of what I have to avoid having to cleaning the sand often. I'm use to having bare bottom, but wrasses like the sand so I want to have them happy.

fairy and flasher wrasses do not require sand but your other wrasses do. Fighting conch are excellent for keeping the sand clean

Thanks again I appreciate any input

 

[gsiegel]

I posted this somewhere else in this forum but figured it may be better suited here. I am in the processing of purchasing a large - 310 gallon saltwater fish aquarium and want as much feedback as I can get. I have very little experience but want to do this 1 time w/o regrets later. I will have a service come in every month (likely more often initially) and I will do the relatively simple maintenance otherwise. I was also told the feeding schedule should be 2x/week.Here is what the plan is so far:

Here are the specs for the set up - please comment:
310 Gallon Starphire Tank 80 x 30 x 30
LC 400 Gallon Wet Dry Filter
SE Reeflo Snapper 2500 GPH Pump
13 bags of Bimini Pink Sand
CL 36W Turbo Twist UV Sterilizer
Sup Mag 3 Drive Water Pump
AI Sol White Lighting (4 of them for this tank) - do you recommend the white or the blue???
AI Sol/Nano Base Controller
Living Color from Fort Lauderdale (who is on the other TV show - not Tanked) - is constructing artificial reef structures which will also hide the pipes in the tank

I know to add the fish slowly but ultimately am looking at adding a combination of some of these (of course not all) fish:
Blue spotted ray (my kids really want this)
White spotted or brown banded bamboo shark
Panther grouper
Comet
Hawkfish- flame, long nose
Spinecheeks - blue whip tail
*Angels - likely a couple smaller and larger ones added as juveniles together for cohesiveness?; small - bi-color, flame, coral beauty, bellus, blue spotted; larger- scribbled, blue, queen, emperor, tellow bar, blue faced
Clownfish (of course have to have Nemo for the kids)
Wrasse- ie: scott's fairy, exquisite fairy, solar fairy, ornate, 6-lined, moon, rainbow
Spotted mandarin, green mandarin fish
Surgeonfish-Achilles Tang and Powder Blue Tang (my 2 favorites), sailfin tang, purple tang, unicorn tang
Maybe a less aggressive trigger such as a blue chin or cross hatch (love the Clown but understand they may be more aggressive)
Pufferfish (love the personality traits I have heard of)

Fortunately I have some means to do this but I want to do this right 1 time. Other thoughts on other stunning fish to add? Other suggestions?

Thanks so much from this newbie, 1st posting member!

 

[gsiegel]

I posted this somewhere else in this forum but figured it may be better suited here. I am in the processing of purchasing a large - 310 gallon saltwater fish aquarium and want as much feedback as I can get. I have very little experience but want to do this 1 time w/o regrets later. I will have a service come in every month (likely more often initially) and I will do the relatively simple maintenance otherwise. I was also told the feeding schedule should be 2x/week.Here is what the plan is so far:

Here are the specs for the set up - please comment:
310 Gallon Starphire Tank 80 x 30 x 30
LC 400 Gallon Wet Dry Filter
SE Reeflo Snapper 2500 GPH Pump
13 bags of Bimini Pink Sand
CL 36W Turbo Twist UV Sterilizer
Sup Mag 3 Drive Water Pump
AI Sol White Lighting (4 of them for this tank) - do you recommend the white or the blue???
AI Sol/Nano Base Controller
Living Color from Fort Lauderdale (who is on the other TV show - not Tanked) - is constructing artificial reef structures which will also hide the pipes in the tank

I know to add the fish slowly but ultimately am looking at adding a combination of some of these (of course not all) fish:
Blue spotted ray (my kids really want this)
White spotted or brown banded bamboo shark
Panther grouper
Comet
Hawkfish- flame, long nose
Spinecheeks - blue whip tail
*Angels - likely a couple smaller and larger ones added as juveniles together for cohesiveness?; small - bi-color, flame, coral beauty, bellus, blue spotted; larger- scribbled, blue, queen, emperor, tellow bar, blue faced
Clownfish (of course have to have Nemo for the kids)
Wrasse- ie: scott's fairy, exquisite fairy, solar fairy, ornate, 6-lined, moon, rainbow
Spotted mandarin, green mandarin fish
Surgeonfish-Achilles Tang and Powder Blue Tang (my 2 favorites), sailfin tang, purple tang, unicorn tang
Maybe a less aggressive trigger such as a blue chin or cross hatch (love the Clown but understand they may be more aggressive)
Pufferfish (love the personality traits I have heard of)

Fortunately I have some means to do this but I want to do this right 1 time. Other thoughts on other stunning fish to add? Other suggestions?

Thanks so much from this newbie, 1st posting member!

Yes I do know not to add Angels such as the Queen and Emperor together but am hoping there may be other Angels (small and/or large) that may be fine with something like either the Queen, Emperor, or other majestic looking Angel.

Thanks for all replies

 

[Jsberry]

Question, if inch per gallon doesn't pertain to saltwater aquariums. What is considered to be a crowded rank? Thanks in advance I know it seems like a stupid question just new to saltwater and do not want to overcrowd.

 

[snorvich]

I posted this somewhere else in this forum but figured it may be better suited here. I am in the processing of purchasing a large - 310 gallon saltwater fish aquarium and want as much feedback as I can get. I have very little experience but want to do this 1 time w/o regrets later. I will have a service come in every month (likely more often initially) and I will do the relatively simple maintenance otherwise. I was also told the feeding schedule should be 2x/week.Here is what the plan is so far:

Here are the specs for the set up - please comment:
310 Gallon Starphire Tank 80 x 30 x 30
LC 400 Gallon Wet Dry Filter
SE Reeflo Snapper 2500 GPH Pump
13 bags of Bimini Pink Sand
CL 36W Turbo Twist UV Sterilizer
Sup Mag 3 Drive Water Pump
AI Sol White Lighting (4 of them for this tank) - do you recommend the white or the blue???
AI Sol/Nano Base Controller
Living Color from Fort Lauderdale (who is on the other TV show - not Tanked) - is constructing artificial reef structures which will also hide the pipes in the tank

I know to add the fish slowly but ultimately am looking at adding a combination of some of these (of course not all) fish:
Blue spotted ray (my kids really want this)
White spotted or brown banded bamboo shark
Panther grouper
Comet
Hawkfish- flame, long nose
Spinecheeks - blue whip tail
*Angels - likely a couple smaller and larger ones added as juveniles together for cohesiveness?; small - bi-color, flame, coral beauty, bellus, blue spotted; larger- scribbled, blue, queen, emperor, tellow bar, blue faced
Clownfish (of course have to have Nemo for the kids)
Wrasse- ie: scott's fairy, exquisite fairy, solar fairy, ornate, 6-lined, moon, rainbow
Spotted mandarin, green mandarin fish
Surgeonfish-Achilles Tang and Powder Blue Tang (my 2 favorites), sailfin tang, purple tang, unicorn tang
Maybe a less aggressive trigger such as a blue chin or cross hatch (love the Clown but understand they may be more aggressive)
Pufferfish (love the personality traits I have heard of)

Fortunately I have some means to do this but I want to do this right 1 time. Other thoughts on other stunning fish to add? Other suggestions?

Thanks so much from this newbie, 1st posting member!

Unfortunately I do not provide advice on aggressive fish tanks. We do have a forum for this type question which can be found here.

 

[snorvich]

Question, if inch per gallon doesn't pertain to saltwater aquariums. What is considered to be a crowded rank? Thanks in advance I know it seems like a stupid question just new to saltwater and do not want to overcrowd.

I wish there were an easy answer to that question. That is one of the reasons this thread exists and is so popular; it has been split and between the two parts, has about 200,000 views and 7,000 replies. It is almost an art form and is based on many years of experience (including screwing up)