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[Fire.is.fun]

So I've upgraded to a 120 gallon high and it's cycled and been up for a month now with,
90-100lbs of live rock
6-8" of "live" fine sand,
A bunch of Lps, soft, mushroom and a birds nest Corel
A mated pair of bangi cardinal
1 engineer gobie
Ocellairs clown
Six line wrase
Two spotted gobie
Lawnmower blenny
Scooter blenny
2 emerald crabs
Clean up crew including cleaner skunk shrimp and peppermint shrimp.

I am interested in purchasing the following fish as my tank starts to mature:

A Red Banded Goby
A mated pair Pajama Cardinal
A Pistol Shrimp ( paired with the red banded goby)
Fire Goby
Schauinsla Sand Perch
Candy striped Hogfish

I am also in the process of setting up a 40 galling long sump with a fuge and my tank has a foam/dry rock wall with lots of shelfs and swim throughs. Again any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[snorvich]

So I've upgraded to a 120 gallon high and it's cycled and been up for a month now with,
90-100lbs of live rock
6-8" of "live" fine sand,
A bunch of Lps, soft, mushroom and a birds nest Corel
A mated pair of bangi cardinal
1 engineer gobie I am pretty sure you will come to regret this fish
Ocellairs clown
Six line wrase very aggressive, limits options going forward
Two spotted gobie a difficult fish to sustain long term
Lawnmower blenny
Scooter blenny
2 emerald crabs
Clean up crew including cleaner skunk shrimp and peppermint shrimp.

I am interested in purchasing the following fish as my tank starts to mature:

A Red Banded Goby
A mated pair Pajama Cardinal
A Pistol Shrimp ( paired with the red banded goby)
Fire Goby
Schauinsla Sand Perch not invert or fish safe
Candy striped Hogfish not invert safe

I am also in the process of setting up a 40 galling long sump with a fuge and my tank has a foam/dry rock wall with lots of shelfs and swim throughs. Again any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[ridleywr24cb]

Help with stocklist

Help with stocklist

300 Gallon, No sump. have filters. have skimmer. have powerheads several koralias. 250 lbs of live rock. 2 inch live sand bed. tank 79 degrees. nitrite ammonia nitrate all 0. I would like to add this stocklist please help with order of adding and if can live within the same tank.

mandarrin, humu trigger, blue damsel, green chromi, osc clown, pj cardinal, chocolate chip star, male and female lyretail anthia, blue hippo tang, flame angel, juvenile emporer angel, harlequin tuskfish.

 

[snorvich]

300 Gallon, No sump. have filters. have skimmer. have powerheads several koralias. 250 lbs of live rock. 2 inch live sand bed. tank 79 degrees. nitrite ammonia nitrate all 0. I would like to add this stocklist please help with order of adding and if can live within the same tank.

mandarrin, humu trigger, blue damsel, green chromi, osc clown, pj cardinal, chocolate chip star, male and female lyretail anthia, blue hippo tang, flame angel, juvenile emporer angel, harlequin tuskfish.

Most passive first, most aggressive last. Be sure to quarantine everything properly.

 

[Fire.is.fun]

Thanks Steve,

Is there any way to help keep the aggressive fish a little more happy or would it be best just to find a new home for the six line?

I've been trying to find information about the Schauinsla Sand Perch but everything I've came across about them is very vauge

 

[snorvich]

Thanks Steve,

Is there any way to help keep the aggressive fish a little more happy or would it be best just to find a new home for the six line?

Unfortunately, it is just the way they are. There is some variation by specific fish but that is more accidental than deterministic.

I've been trying to find information about the Schauinsla Sand Perch but everything I've came across about them is very vauge

They are ambush predators. Usually not sold in the aquarium trade because of this and because they are sort of boring. Back when I was doing underwater photography, I used to do closeups of their teeth.

 

[Fire.is.fun]

Ah alright well thank you very much for your help

 

[Wretch]

Just putting together a 50g mixed tank. It will have a 29g sump/fuge and BM curve 5 protein skimmer. 50-60lbs of live rock and 2" of live sand. Just not sure what kind of bioload I can put in a tank that size.

Yellow Clown Goby
Blue and Gold Blenny
Carpenters Flasher Wrasse (1 male 2 female)
Bartletts Anthias
Would like to add one or more of the following if you think its possible: orange back fairy, blue flasher, McKosker Flasher, or Filamented flasher wrasse.

Thanks for your help. I hope I didnt totally mess up my stocking list.

 

[snorvich]

Just putting together a 50g mixed tank. It will have a 29g sump/fuge and BM curve 5 protein skimmer. 50-60lbs of live rock and 2" of live sand. Just not sure what kind of bioload I can put in a tank that size.

Yellow Clown Goby
Blue and Gold Blenny
Carpenters Flasher Wrasse (1 male 2 female)

up to here you are fine, however adding additional fairy/flasher wrasses won't work well. You could add a less intensive fish such as a pygmy wrasse or a goby/pistol shrimp combination. Fairy/flasher wrasse combinations requires a larger tank than a 50 gallon. Remember that flasher wrasses can/will jump so your tank must be tightly covered.

Bartletts Anthias needs a larger tank
Would like to add one or more of the following if you think its possible: orange back fairy, blue flasher, McKosker Flasher, or Filamented flasher wrasse.

Thanks for your help. I hope I didnt totally mess up my stocking list.

 

[ricwilli]

achellis tang

achellis tang

I have a 300 gallon tank with a powder blue, yellow tang and a Sailfin tang. They are all 5 inches. Can I add a 3 1/2 to 4 inch achellis tang? Would there be a problem me adding other fish not in the tang family to the tank?

Thanks

 

[snorvich]

I have a 300 gallon tank with a powder blue, yellow tang and a Sailfin tang. They are all 5 inches. Can I add a 3 1/2 to 4 inch achellis tang? Would there be a problem me adding other fish not in the tang family to the tank?

Thanks

The fish most likely to object to adding another tang is the yellow tang, second most likely is the sailfin tang. Depending on the other fish you wish to add, the yellow tang may still object, although that may pass.

 

[Fish Biscuit]

I am still trying to sort out what to do with the 28 g when I set it up. Current inhabitants in the 12 will stay where they are. 30 to 40# of LR will be in there, 3" sand bed & corals will be LPS

Is it possible to put a trio of a peaceful flasher wrasse in there or is it not enough swimming room? Live Aquaria shows filamented, red tail, yellowfin & blue flashers suitable for a 30 g. Are there any peaceful fairy wrasses that would work too? If not a trio is a pair possible? I can wait for a pair to show up online or at Old Town if this is possible.

I have seen listed online that a mystery wrasse needs 50 g but then another vendor shows 30 as being suitable. What is the truth on tank size? Is this an option with 1 other fish if it goes in last or ideally should it be the only fish if it is ok for my tank size? I know they can either be ok or make maroon clowns look sweet.

If I'm at 2 strikes by now, what about...
Bonded Helfrichi firefish pair - in first
Gold Assessor - ?
Pink Streaked &/or possum wrasse

Or sell my dressage horse for a 300 g reef?

Is Live Aquaria the best place to look for fish as far as recommended tank size or are the others that are in the ballpark too? There are some places I look at tank sizes & fall off my chair from laughing, I'm sure someone would tell me to cram 10 fish in the tank.

Thank you for your help, it is much appreciated

 

[eutimio]

55G HEX stocking and more questions..

55G HEX stocking and more questions..

Ive got a 55G hex-25"x25"
30 pound live rock
2 bags aragalive substrate(2-3 inch deep sand bed)

Just set it up today.Have no place for a sump and im running a Fluval FX5 canister filter on it filled with ceramic rings and pads for mechanical filtration.Ive seen people recommending against canisters on marine setups.
What is the best option to run on this tank?
I understand 25% water changes per day can be beneficial during the cycle?
I dont have a RO/DI water unit.Am i safe using tap water mixed with salt til the cycle ends?Planning on buying RO water from my LFS for water changes after i get fish.
What other pieces of equipment are needed in order to keep optimal water parameters-protein skimmers...etc?
Ultimately, ive been advised by one of my friends at the LFS to add a maximum of 5 fish in this tank each of them reaching adult sizes of 4-5 inches.Would you consider that adequate?
Im a newbie to this so please go easy on me.Thanks

 

[snorvich]

I am still trying to sort out what to do with the 28 g when I set it up. Current inhabitants in the 12 will stay where they are. 30 to 40# of LR will be in there, 3" sand bed & corals will be LPS

Is it possible to put a trio of a peaceful flasher wrasse in there or is it not enough swimming room? Live Aquaria shows filamented, red tail, yellowfin & blue flashers suitable for a 30 g. Are there any peaceful fairy wrasses that would work too? If not a trio is a pair possible? I can wait for a pair to show up online or at Old Town if this is possible.

Nice to see you again, Michele. If you are going to have a group of flasher wrasses, you really need more like a 50 gallon tank. Live Aquaria has excellent minimum tank sizes, more realistic than almost any other vendor, but what would work for one does not translate to a group of more thzn one.

I have seen listed online that a mystery wrasse needs 50 g but then another vendor shows 30 as being suitable. What is the truth on tank size? Is this an option with 1 other fish if it goes in last or ideally should it be the only fish if it is ok for my tank size? I know they can either be ok or make maroon clowns look sweet.

Remember the inherent conflict of interests which a vendor has with an aquarist. They sell fish, an aquarist looks for long term success.

If I'm at 2 strikes by now, what about...
Bonded Helfrichi firefish pair - in first
Gold Assessor - ?
Pink Streaked &/or possum wrasse

An excellent stocking list

Or sell my dressage horse for a 300 g reef?

a 300 gallon reef tank is a nontrivial "investment" because of the animals not because of the initial cost.

Is Live Aquaria the best place to look for fish as far as recommended tank size or are the others that are in the ballpark too? There are some places I look at tank sizes & fall off my chair from laughing, I'm sure someone would tell me to cram 10 fish in the tank.

I endorse Live Aquaria's advice, but remember that minimum tank size is for one not more than one.

Thank you for your help, it is much appreciated

 

[snorvich]

Ive got a 55G hex-25"x25"
30 pound live rock
2 bags aragalive substrate(2-3 inch deep sand bed)

Just set it up today.Have no place for a sump and im running a Fluval FX5 canister filter on it filled with ceramic rings and pads for mechanical filtration.Ive seen people recommending against canisters on marine setups.
What is the best option to run on this tank?
I understand 25% water changes per day can be beneficial during the cycle?
I dont have a RO/DI water unit.Am i safe using tap water mixed with salt til the cycle ends?Planning on buying RO water from my LFS for water changes after i get fish.
What other pieces of equipment are needed in order to keep optimal water parameters-protein skimmers...etc?

This thread is about marine fish compatibility. The questions above would get much response in a separate thread in New to the Hobby.

Ultimately, ive been advised by one of my friends at the LFS to add a maximum of 5 fish in this tank each of them reaching adult sizes of 4-5 inches.Would you consider that adequate?
Im a newbie to this so please go easy on me.Thanks

That size fish would be a bit much for your sized tank. However the number is reasonable with fish that behaviorally are compatible.

[welcome]

 

[Fish Biscuit]

Thank you very much Steve. I was thinking the 28 might be a tight squeeze for wrasses other than the pink streaked & the possum.

I probably will go with both wrasses, firefish pair, & gold assessor. What goes in after the firefish or does it not matter since they are all peaceful?

The horse would be able to pay for the tank up to the point of it being completely stocked, lucky for him I'm quite attached at this point

I'll be back for more questions if they come up as like most girls I change my mind all the time.

 

[ricwilli]

The fish most likely to object to adding another tang is the yellow tang, second most likely is the sailfin tang. Depending on the other fish you wish to add, the yellow tang may still object, although that may pass.

Thanks for the responce.

Do you have any recommendation on introducing the achellis tang to the rest of the tangs?

 

[snorvich]

Thank you very much Steve. I was thinking the 28 might be a tight squeeze for wrasses other than the pink streaked & the possum.

I probably will go with both wrasses, firefish pair, & gold assessor. What goes in after the firefish or does it not matter since they are all peaceful?

all are peaceful, but firefish always do best if first.

The horse would be able to pay for the tank up to the point of it being completely stocked, lucky for him I'm quite attached at this point

literally or figuratively?

I'll be back for more questions if they come up as like most girls I change my mind all the time.

No problem, come on down . . .

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for the responce.

Do you have any recommendation on introducing the achellis tang to the rest of the tangs?

First of all, quarantine. Once quarantined, acclimation boxes can help to a degree.

 

[Empty Bottles]

A 60" 100 gallon LPS dominated mixed reef

1 ocellaris clown
1 blue flasher wrasse
1 solon wrasse
1 midas blenny
1 tailspot blenny
1 flame fin tang
1 pyramid butterfly
1 bangai cardinal
1 royal gramma
1 purple firefish

I think all the fish are going to be compatible, but if you see any issues please let me know. I am running a skimmer, GFO reactor and carbon. Please comment on the bioload too.