PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[swine]

OK. Im going to recap for your and my sanity.

What I have:
55 gallon tank 40lbs of live rock in DT and 5 in refuge. sump with skimmer.
3x Golfball sized mexican turbo snails
3x emerald crabs
3x astreas
3x small hermits
1x skunk shrimp
1x diamond watchman goby (didnt eat the pellets at first but now seems to like them, is this because he has drained the benthic creatures?, he only sifts the sand in one spot of the tank though. Ill have to figure out how to breed more benthic creatures, thats coming up on my to research list.)
2x ocells (they are getting along great and hardly leave each others side, havent seen either trying to dominate yet)


So i'll start with a new list that in the long run will be ok with a mandarin:

Next desired purchases:

1) anemone, most likely bubble tip. to host clowns.
2) If i want another cleaner shrimp that will have a commensal relationship with a goby should I get a omnivore? all carnivores would not be commensal? I read somewhere that pistol shrimp and tiger snapping shrimp (both carnivores?) have a symbiotic relationship with gobies but what would be a true commensal relationship? I thought commensal was quite close to symbiotic.
3) more hermits & snails
4) bicolor blenny (herbivores eat pellet food?)
5) 2x cardinal fish
6) 3x chromis
7) start breeding pods and feeder shrimp for mandarin/cardinals, goby might like the shrimp too. This will be done in my 20 gallon sump.
8) Maxima Clam (I'd be willing do harvest phytoplankton. I feel like others could benefit from this too

 

[snorvich]

Decided to go with two Helfrichi's gobies first so they can go into the tank first and get comfortable. They are in quarantine now.

I have a second tank (QT/hospital tank) that can receive fish as well. I will of course stagger the introduction of all the fishes into the DT so the the biolfilter has time to adapt.

I was looking at the Bartlet anthia and have read on several sites that they don't require as large of a tank as the other anthias, so could I do 2 or 3 of these? I know they will not school in the tank and that is not the expectation.

Thanks!

Helfrichi are firefish; they are easily intimidated, so be careful what you put with them. More than a single anthias really need a larger tank than a 105 G

 

[snorvich]

OK. Im going to recap for your and my sanity.

What I have:
55 gallon tank 40lbs of live rock in DT and 5 in refuge. sump with skimmer.
3x Golfball sized mexican turbo snails
3x emerald crabs
3x astreas
3x small hermits
1x skunk shrimp
1x diamond watchman goby (didnt eat the pellets at first but now seems to like them, is this because he has drained the benthic creatures?, he only sifts the sand in one spot of the tank though.

watchman gobies are not sand sifters

Ill have to figure out how to breed more benthic creatures, thats coming up on my to research list.)
2x ocells (they are getting along great and hardly leave each others side, havent seen either trying to dominate yet)

they will, just not in the short run


So i'll start with a new list that in the long run will be ok with a mandarin:

If you want a mandarin in this sized tank, you will need a refugium

Next desired purchases:

1) anemone, most likely bubble tip. to host clowns.

You need to research better since that anemone will not have that species clownfish associate

2) If i want another cleaner shrimp that will have a commensal relationship with a goby should I get a omnivore?

cleaner shrimp do not associate with gobies

all carnivores would not be commensal? I read somewhere that pistol shrimp and tiger snapping shrimp (both carnivores?) have a symbiotic relationship with gobies but what would be a true commensal relationship? I thought commensal was quite close to symbiotic.

since this is not a discussion thread, google or a good book should help you out. This thread is only about marine fish compatibility

3) more hermits & snails
4) bicolor blenny (herbivores eat pellet food?)
5) 2x cardinal fish
6) 3x chromis they are not coming in healthy and even healthy ones will reduce to one or at most a pair
7) start breeding pods and feeder shrimp for mandarin/cardinals, goby might like the shrimp too. This will be done in my 20 gallon sump.
8) Maxima Clam (I'd be willing do harvest phytoplankton. I feel like others could benefit from this too

I only comment on marine fish compatibility. Many of the questions you ask are well beyond the scope of this thread

 

[swine]

I only comment on marine fish compatibility. Many of the questions you ask are well beyond the scope of this thread

Thank you very much

 

[abev121]

Hi I'm hoping for a bit of help. I currently have a 40g tank with 2 clown fish, a yellow watchman goby and a McCosker's flasher wrasse. I would like to add 2 of the following, in order of preference.

Red fire fish
Bicolor blenny
Green banded body
Clown goby.

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[snorvich]

Hi I'm hoping for a bit of help. I currently have a 40g tank with 2 clown fish, a yellow watchman goby and a McCosker's flasher wrasse. I would like to add 2 of the following, in order of preference.

Red fire fish
Bicolor blenny
Green banded body
Clown goby.

Thanks for your thoughts.

A bicolor blenny and the clown goby would work. The flasher wrasse will intimidate the firefish.

[welcome]

 

[mguiling]

Starki Damsels?

Starki Damsels?

Hi, I'm thinking of adding 2 Starki Damsels (Australia, or Vanuata), a Synchiropus splendidus, a Siganus unimaculatus a bicolor blenny and a scooter blenny to the tank in my signature.

TIA

 

[snorvich]

Sorry - this is what I was referring to.

While we strongly encourage your participation every where else on Reef Central, this particular thread is expert only and is answered only by Reef Central Staff. Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

 

[snorvich]

Hi, I'm thinking of adding 2 Starki Damsels (Australia, or Vanuata), a Synchiropus splendidus, a Siganus unimaculatus a bicolor blenny and a scooter blenny to the tank in my signature.

185 gal. acrylic, in basement 100 gal refugium and 140 gal sump. 2 Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Coral Beauty Angel, 1 LyreTail Anthias, 2 Cardinalfish, Purple Tang, Flasher Wrasse, Neon Goby, Saphire Damselfish, royal gamma, blue tuxedo urchin, sps and lps


I added your signature to your post so I did not have to do a "memory thing". Two dragonets (scooter blenny is a dragonet) will compete for copepods but your tank should be sufficient assuming it is mature. It is possible the flasher wrasse may try to intimidate the mandarin. Adding damsels may also be a problem. The purple tang might go after the Siganus unimaculatus. These interactions are less than clear but possible.

TIA

 

[Redhaloangel]

75 gallon

75 gallon

HI, i just got a 75 gallon bow front 4 feet wide with sump, skimmer real good lights.. (forget what kind but they have the full length reflectors on them..
about 80+ lbs of live rock, and 60 lbs of sand.

i was planning on putting in this tank:

1 Purple Tang (came with tank)
1 Powder Blue tang (would buy)
1 flame angel (came with tank)
pair dragonet (1 came with tank i want to get another)
pair blue stripe clarkii (would buy)
1 cleaner wrasse (have in 30 gallon)
2 fireshrimp (came with tank)
1 anemone (would buy)
1 pink crab (came with tank)

please let me know how that is.. we really want to get a powder blue tang but the purple tang is my favorite, and powder blue is my sons favorite.. i dont mind trading in the flame angel so that i can get a powder blue...

this is what was in the tank origionally when i bought it..

1 purple tang
1 yellow tang
1 flame angel
1 emperer angel
1 dragonet
2 maroon clownfish
1 regal blue tang (dori)

i gave the two clowns to a friend for helping to move..
i got credit for the yellow tang and emperor angel
and the regal blue went to another friends house
and i only kept three fish that i wanted

Thankyou!

 

[snorvich]

HI, i just got a 75 gallon bow front 4 feet wide with sump, skimmer real good lights.. (forget what kind but they have the full length reflectors on them..
about 80+ lbs of live rock, and 60 lbs of sand.

i was planning on putting in this tank:

1 Purple Tang (came with tank)
1 Powder Blue tang (would buy) needs a larger tank and the purple tang would not allow it into your tank
1 flame angel (came with tank)
pair dragonet (1 came with tank i want to get another) your tank is not large enough for two
pair blue stripe clarkii (would buy) these are among the more aggressive clownfish but if you do not load up your tank, it should be ok
1 cleaner wrasse (have in 30 gallon)
2 fireshrimp (came with tank)
1 anemone (would buy) be sure that it is the type that your clowns would associate with
1 pink crab (came with tank) crabs make me nervous because they often take fish. Almost no crab is a good crab

please let me know how that is.. we really want to get a powder blue tang but the purple tang is my favorite, and powder blue is my sons favorite.. i dont mind trading in the flame angel so that i can get a powder blue...

this is what was in the tank origionally when i bought it..

1 purple tang
1 yellow tang
1 flame angel
1 emperer angel
1 dragonet
2 maroon clownfish
1 regal blue tang (dori)

i gave the two clowns to a friend for helping to move..
i got credit for the yellow tang and emperor angel
and the regal blue went to another friends house
and i only kept three fish that i wanted good decision, the tank is no where large enough for all of those fish or even for one regal tang and nothing else

Thankyou!

 

[Redhaloangel]

1 Powder Blue tang (would buy) needs a larger tank and the purple tang would not allow it into your tank

ok darn! what if i switch the purple tang for a powder blue???


pair dragonet (1 came with tank i want to get another) your tank is not large enough for two

ok just one dragonet thats ok..

pair blue stripe clarkii (would buy) these are among the more aggressive clownfish but if you do not load up your tank, it should be ok

any fish i shouldnt get in this list so that i can get these two clowns??

1 anemone (would buy) be sure that it is the type that your clowns would associate with

what best anemone would associate this these clowns??


1 pink crab (came with tank) crabs make me nervous because they often take fish. Almost no crab is a good crab

it came with the tank.. and it is jsut buried in in the sand or rock..i dont htink i could catch it if i wanted to now.. its still in the tank cycling...


thankyou!

 

[snorvich]

First of all, please do not remove my magenta comments. It is difficult enough to keep track of who said what without having to figure it out

1 Powder Blue tang (would buy) needs a larger tank and the purple tang would not allow it into your tank

Still needs a larger tank even if the purple tang goes away

ok darn! what if i switch the purple tang for a powder blue???


pair dragonet (1 came with tank i want to get another) your tank is not large enough for two

ok just one dragonet thats ok..

pair blue stripe clarkii (would buy) these are among the more aggressive clownfish but if you do not load up your tank, it should be ok

any fish i shouldnt get in this list so that i can get these two clowns??

If I did not say so in my initial comments, there is no problem

1 anemone (would buy) be sure that it is the type that your clowns would associate with

what best anemone would associate this these clowns??

That is beyond the scope of this thread, however using google you should be able to research which anemones will work with A. clarkii. Google is your friend in researching aquarium stuff. This thread is your friend when it comes to behavioral interaction

1 pink crab (came with tank) crabs make me nervous because they often take fish. Almost no crab is a good crab

it came with the tank.. and it is jsut buried in in the sand or rock..i dont htink i could catch it if i wanted to now.. its still in the tank cycling...


thankyou!

 

[Jackie Blue90]

I have a 125g with a Volitan Lionfish. I was wanting to get a tang and a butteryfly to help with my algae and my bristle worm problem. has anyone ever owned a White Cheek Tang or a Pakistan Butterfly fish? they are both beautiful.

 

[snorvich]

I have a 125g with a Volitan Lionfish. I was wanting to get a tang and a butteryfly to help with my algae and my bristle worm problem. has anyone ever owned a White Cheek Tang or a Pakistan Butterfly fish? they are both beautiful.

I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks. However your lionfish would eat any of the fish you are thinking about.

 

[kevinrf]

75g 48x18x20

Already have:
(1) b&w clown
(1) extreme snowflake clown
(1) melanarus wrasse
(2) barnacle blennies
(1) midas blenny
(1) randells goby
(1) tank bred (neon dottyback) (Just purchased yesterday)
(1) scarlet shrimp
(2) harlequin shrimp
(1) emerald crab


Possibly want:
Starry Blenny. I have some algae & thought this might be a good idea. I've read it would not like fish similarly shaped.. the midas blenny is def. similarly shaped

 

[Jackie Blue90]

My boyfriend has a lawnmower and a starry blenny. The lawnmower sometimes chases the starry around, so they avoid each other for the most part, the lawnmower is a little bigger anyway. They seem to be doing great in his 125

 

[snorvich]

75g 48x18x20

Already have:
(1) b&w clown
(1) extreme snowflake clown
(1) melanarus wrasse
(2) barnacle blennies
(1) midas blenny
(1) randells goby
(1) tank bred (neon dottyback) (Just purchased yesterday)
(1) scarlet shrimp
(2) harlequin shrimp
(1) emerald crab


Possibly want:
Starry Blenny. I have some algae & thought this might be a good idea. I've read it would not like fish similarly shaped.. the midas blenny is def. similarly shaped

Neon dottybacks will not like most fish and are highly aggressive

 

[snorvich]

My boyfriend has a lawnmower and a starry blenny. The lawnmower sometimes chases the starry around, so they avoid each other for the most part, the lawnmower is a little bigger anyway. They seem to be doing great in his 125

In the long run, two blennies are not likely to do well.

 

[whiteshark]

25 gallon cube

Wishlist :

1 - Firefish goby
1 - Whiteray shrimp goby
1 - Blackray shrimp goby
1 - Benggai Cardinal (would this size tank be too small?)