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[snorvich]

55 gallon with sump 55lbs LR

i have two established False Perc. Clowns, Lawnmower blennie, watchman gobie

both clowns are bigger than Purple Stripe, will the clowns be ok, can they prevent the dotty from being to aggressive towards them

Size is not an indication of ability to survive aggression. Pseudochromis can be very aggressive.

 

[anpetey]

55 Gallon

55 Gallon

Hello!

I currently have a 55 gallon reef tank that has been up and running for almost two years. It's current occupants are a midas blenny and a fathead anthias.

I'm looking at adding another more fish soon and thought I would get some ideas from you guys!

Ideally I would like to have one more "mid sized" (I use that term loosely) fish. One that would spend some time cruising the tank and in the water column. I was thinking maybe a single clown (On the fence, I like clown personality but would be concerned that it would become too dominant as it ages) or a single wrasse. I was also think about putting a couple smaller fish, maybe gobies (I like the neon, greenbanded, and clown gobies) later on but I'm wondering if:

1. You can mix gobies

2. If my midas blenny will be compatible with smaller gobies (or small fish in general). He is the dominate fish in the tank and occasionally will chase after my anthias.

I'm also thinking that adding at least one more similar sized fish to my current ones might disperse some of the attention away from the anthias and then I could add some smaller fish later.

So! Do you have anymore suggestions for a single (or paired) addition first and then some small fish species that could be mixed later?

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

Hello!

I currently have a 55 gallon reef tank that has been up and running for almost two years. It's current occupants are a midas blenny and a fathead anthias.

I'm looking at adding another more fish soon and thought I would get some ideas from you guys!

Ideally I would like to have one more "mid sized" (I use that term loosely) fish. One that would spend some time cruising the tank and in the water column. I was thinking maybe a single clown (On the fence, I like clown personality but would be concerned that it would become too dominant as it ages) or a single wrasse. I was also think about putting a couple smaller fish, maybe gobies (I like the neon, greenbanded, and clown gobies) later on but I'm wondering if:

1. You can mix gobies

2. If my midas blenny will be compatible with smaller gobies (or small fish in general). He is the dominate fish in the tank and occasionally will chase after my anthias.

I'm also thinking that adding at least one more similar sized fish to my current ones might disperse some of the attention away from the anthias and then I could add some smaller fish later.

So! Do you have anymore suggestions for a single (or paired) addition first and then some small fish species that could be mixed later?

Thanks!

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. However if you provide a prospective stocking list, I will be happy to provide analysis and commentary. The Midas Blenny will continue to be aggressive, as he is currently king of the tank.

 

[anpetey]

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. However if you provide a prospective stocking list, I will be happy to provide analysis and commentary. The Midas Blenny will continue to be aggressive, as he is currently king of the tank.

Oops! Thanks Snorvich! I'll be back when I have a prospective list ready!

 

[TheSacrifice]

I have 2 Occellaris Clowns, 1 Black Cap Jawfish, 1 Skunk Shrimp, 10 hermits, 1 Turbo snail. I posted a new thread asking for suggestion but thought that I'd also just go ahead and see what you guys think here.


With my current stock what do you guys think about adding 1 Purple Firefish? Would you only add 1?

Thanks

 

[snorvich]

I have 2 Occellaris Clowns, 1 Black Cap Jawfish, 1 Skunk Shrimp, 10 hermits, 1 Turbo snail. I posted a new thread asking for suggestion but thought that I'd also just go ahead and see what you guys think here.


With my current stock what do you guys think about adding 1 Purple Firefish? Would you only add 1?

Thanks

This thread is only answered by Reef Central staff. A single purple firefish would be fine. Two would have to be a bonded male plus female pair for long term survival. Firefish are prolific jumpers so your tank would have to be tightly covered.

 

[TheSacrifice]

Thank you for the quick response.

 

[Man of Fish]

My list

My list

Please advise my list


1 yellow tang
1 powder blue tang
1 lamarcks angel
1 flame angel
1 Randall's goby pair with a Randall's pistol shrimp
1 pair of fire fish
1 striped fang blenny
1 pair of royal gramma
1 pair of clownfish (unsure on species yet)
1 yellowhead jaw fish
1 whip fin fairy wrasse
1 neon dotty back

Inverts:
3 emerald crabs
5-6 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
2 serpent stars
1 tridacna crocea clam
Bunches of snails: turbos, ceriths, stomatella, cowrys?
Hermits?

 

[North]

I spent the winter building a new 90 gal DT with 30 gal sump mostly using information found on this site. I'm upgrading from a sumpless 55 gal that has been running for the last 10 years. I've never had a very high bio load in the old tank mostly due to the limited capability of my cheap HOB equipment. I used live rock from the old tank to seed the new one and it's been running for 2 months now. Chemistry is okay with exception of a couple diatom and cyano outbreaks.

Right now, I've got 1 maroon clown and 1 six line wrasse plus very limited soft, LPS and SPS coral in the old tank. I can't get rid of either of the two fish because they both have names and my family won't let them go. But, I plan to move them to my new tank last, now that I know they can be more agressive.

I plan to also add more LPS and SPS over time to the 90 gal and experiment more now that I have a system with the capability.

Here's my list.

Already in tank:
2 purple firefish - first fish added to try to enhance the bonding process before more fish arrive

Next batch:
blue dot jawfish
orange spotted goby
gold assessor basslet
either midas blenny or tailspot blenny

Next batch:
add the maroon clown and six line wrasse - once others are established

final addition:
kole tang
green mandarin - 1-2 years from now when tank is more mature

Your comments are appreciated.

 

[accordsirh22]

setting up a 125 as my next tank, first tentative fish list:
snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish (1)
purple firefish (1)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2)
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1)
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6)
royal gramma (1)
purple tang (1)
yellow tang (1-3)
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12)

the medium want fish:
powder brown tang (1)
powder blue tang (1)
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
yellow coris wrasse (1)
6 line wrasse (1)
sunrise pseudo (1)
foxface (1)
flame angel (1) (on maybe due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)
as i said, this list is very tentative. just want to get some thoughts to revise/change

 

[snorvich]

Please advise my list


1 yellow tang
1 powder blue tang
1 lamarcks angel
1 flame angel
1 Randall's goby pair with a Randall's pistol shrimp
1 pair of fire fish
1 striped fang blenny
1 pair of royal gramma
1 pair of clownfish (unsure on species yet)
1 yellowhead jaw fish
1 whip fin fairy wrasse
1 neon dotty back

Inverts:
3 emerald crabs
5-6 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
2 serpent stars
1 tridacna crocea clam
Bunches of snails: turbos, ceriths, stomatella, cowrys?
Hermits?

tank size?

 

[Man of Fish]

tank size?

120 gallons

 

[snorvich]

I spent the winter building a new 90 gal DT with 30 gal sump mostly using information found on this site. I'm upgrading from a sumpless 55 gal that has been running for the last 10 years. I've never had a very high bio load in the old tank mostly due to the limited capability of my cheap HOB equipment. I used live rock from the old tank to seed the new one and it's been running for 2 months now. Chemistry is okay with exception of a couple diatom and cyano outbreaks.

Right now, I've got 1 maroon clown and 1 six line wrasse plus very limited soft, LPS and SPS coral in the old tank. I can't get rid of either of the two fish because they both have names and my family won't let them go. But, I plan to move them to my new tank last, now that I know they can be more agressive.

I plan to also add more LPS and SPS over time to the 90 gal and experiment more now that I have a system with the capability.

Here's my list.

Already in tank:
2 purple firefish - first fish added to try to enhance the bonding process before more fish arrive may or may not work, but it will take some months before you will know

Next batch:
blue dot jawfish needs cooler temperatures for long term survival
orange spotted goby
gold assessor basslet
either midas blenny or tailspot blenny midas blenny can be aggressive towards plankton eaters

Next batch:
add the maroon clown and six line wrasse - once others are established could be a problem since both of these are aggressive

final addition:
kole tang
green mandarin - 1-2 years from now when tank is more mature

not with a sixline wrasse

Your comments are appreciated.

 

[snorvich]

Please advise my list


1 yellow tang
1 powder blue tang
1 lamarcks angel
1 flame angel
1 Randall's goby pair with a Randall's pistol shrimp a pair only if male plus female, otherwise, one will survive
1 pair of fire fish firefish should be introduced early but two will only survive long term if they are a bonded male plus female pair
1 striped fang blenny
1 pair of royal gramma a pair may work but usually not
1 pair of clownfish (unsure on species yet) species makes a difference. The "redder" they are they more aggressive with A. percula and A. ocellaris being the least aggressive, GSM being the most
1 yellowhead jaw fish
1 whip fin fairy wrasse
1 neon dotty back super aggressive and may preclude firefish and fairy wrasses as well as some other fish in your list

Inverts:
3 emerald crabs
5-6 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
2 serpent stars
1 tridacna crocea clam
Bunches of snails: turbos, ceriths, stomatella, cowrys?
Hermits?

In general, choose hermits or snails or animals with shells. Hermits will kill for shells.

 

[snorvich]

setting up a 125 as my next tank, first tentative fish list:
snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish (1) one firefish only will survive unless a bonded pair of the same species
purple firefish (1)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2) tank raised, male plus female only
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1) super aggressive, will not be compatible with your other fish
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6) will become one or at most two IF they are healthy which most coming in recentlhy have not been.
royal gramma (1)
purple tang (1) two zebrasome tangs will not coexist most of the time
yellow tang (1-3) one onlyu
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12) one only

the medium want fish:
powder brown tang (1)
powder blue tang (1)
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
yellow coris wrasse (1)
6 line wrasse (1)
sunrise pseudo (1) super aggressive
foxface (1)
flame angel (1) (on maybe due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)
as i said, this list is very tentative. just want to get some thoughts to revise/change

Please pare this list down considerably for a real behavioral analysis; at the moment you have way too many fish and way too many groups of fish

 

[Man of Fish]

In general, choose hermits or snails or animals with shells. Hermits will kill for shells.

Thanks you. No dottyback then, maybe just one gramma, the firefish I was planning to get a mates pair, and I don't understand whatcha mean on the goby pistol pair. I'm planning to have at least 10 shells of various sizes per hermit and going with about 8 blue legs if that's fine.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks you. No dottyback then, maybe just one gramma, the firefish I was planning to get a mates pair, and I don't understand whatcha mean on the goby pistol pair. I'm planning to have at least 10 shells of various sizes per hermit and going with about 8 blue legs if that's fine.

It is highly unlikely that any LFS can provide a mated pair of firefish. A goby can be paired with one or more pistol shrimp but only one goby in a normal sized tank. Providing empty shells for hermit crabs will not stop them from killing shelled animals. However, while I mentioned that in order to save you a bit of money, it is really beyond the scope of this thread which is only marine fish compatibility

 

[Man of Fish]

It is highly unlikely that any LFS can provide a mated pair of firefish. A goby can be paired with one or more pistol shrimp but only one goby in a normal sized tank. Providing empty shells for hermit crabs will not stop them from killing shelled animals. However, while I mentioned that in order to save you a bit of money, it is really beyond the scope of this thread which is only marine fish compatibility

Ok, well if I can't find any than ill just go for 1

And how come you can't have a goby pair?

 

[snorvich]

Ok, well if I can't find any than ill just go for 1 some people try two that are hanging out together at the LFS which normally puts a bunch in a 40 gallon breeder. That works about 30% of the time but you will not know for several months if it has.

And how come you can't have a goby pair?

they occupy the same identical ecological niche. I tried it in a 240 gallon tank and first one goby stole the other goby's pistol shrimp, then killed the remaining goby.

 

[Man of Fish]

Even if it's a male and female pair?