PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Even if it's a male and female pair?

Can you tell the difference? I thought not. A bonded male/female pair would work, as it will with most other "pairs" of fish, but since there is no morphological difference that I know of for these fish, other than asking them, I am not sure how you would accomplish that.

 

[Man of Fish]

Oh :/

 

[snorvich]

Oh :/

But if you speak fish, give it a shot. :fun4:

 

[Man of Fish]

So for my 120 does this list sounds better then?

1 yellow tang
1 lamarcks angel
1 flame angel
1 Yellow watchman goby with a Tiger pistol shrimp
1 pair of fire fish or singleton
1 striped fang blenny
1 pair of royal gramma or singleton
1 pair of clowns: percula, occelaris, maroon, or skunk
1 yellowhead jaw fish
1 whip fin fairy wrasse

Inverts:
5-6 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
2 serpent stars
1 tridacna crocea clam
Bunches of snails: turbos, ceriths, stomatella, cowrys
Maybe an urchin

 

[snorvich]

So for my 120 does this list sounds better then?

1 yellow tang
1 lamarcks angel
1 flame angel
1 Yellow watchman goby with a Tiger pistol shrimp
1 pair of fire fish or singleton introduce early on to allow establishment
1 striped fang blenny
1 pair of royal gramma or singleton
1 pair of clowns: percula, occelaris, maroon, or skunk the first two, fine, the last two, less so. Remember that once clownfish are sexually mature, bond, and start mating, they will want to control from 25-50 gallons depending on species
1 yellowhead jaw fish
1 whip fin fairy wrasse

Inverts:
5-6 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire shrimp
2 serpent stars
1 tridacna crocea clam
Bunches of snails: turbos, ceriths, stomatella, cowrys
Maybe an urchin

except as noted, should be fine.

 

[Man of Fish]

Thanks

 

[accordsirh22]

Originally Posted by accordsirh22 View Post
setting up a 125 as my next tank, first tentative fish list:
snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish (1) one firefish only will survive unless a bonded pair of the same species good to know i was under the impression they could be mixed and matched, in that case i will go with a pair of 1 or the other, not sure which yet though, since i like both
purple firefish (1)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2) tank raised, male plus female only thats the plan
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1) super aggressive, will not be compatible with your other fish the current one i have is not aggressive at all *shrug
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6) will become one or at most two IF they are healthy which most coming in recentlhy have not been. so all chromis have been coming in bad? i know greens had but i had not heard anything about blues. either way, these are a long time in the future
royal gramma (1)
purple tang (1) two zebrasome tangs will not coexist most of the time so not much hope for a purple and yellow together?
yellow tang (1-3) one onlyu
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12) one only why only one? i have 3 in a 7.5 atm and they get along fine. black/green/yellow.

the medium want fish:
powder brown tang (1)
powder blue tang (1)
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
yellow coris wrasse (1)
6 line wrasse (1)
sunrise pseudo (1) super aggressive same as with my dottyback, my last one was very timid, but i dont HAVE to have one *shrug
foxface (1)
flame angel (1) (on maybe due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)
as i said, this list is very tentative. just want to get some thoughts to revise/change
Please pare this list down considerably for a real behavioral analysis; at the moment you have way too many fish and way too many groups of fish


i could drop all the fish from the maybe list pretty easily cept the 2 butterflies.

sorry couldnt figure out how to quote all of it together

 

[Justin1997]

Just starting a reef tank 60 gallon cube (2ftx3), it is a work in progress i have 1.5-2" of sand, marine land canister filter and just got some of my live rock. I have read a lot about the fish I am looking into buy as I've learned from helping my dad build his fish only tank, everything is hit or miss. Anyways rambling on here. I am not sure what coral I am going to get, mostly softies starting off with coco worms zoas and mushrooms (any tips on that stuff is greatly appreciated). The fish I am considering is a big list not sure how many I am able to put in the tank but here it goes, Blue Spotted Jaw Fish, Yellow Watchmen Goby, Helfrichi Firefish, Purple Headed Firefish, 2 Ocellaris Clowns, Biocolour Dottyback, Citrinis Clown Goby, Yellowhead Jawfish, Tailspot Blenny, Tankas Pygmy Wrasse (if I can find one), Six Line Wrasse, and a Spotted Madarin
Any tips about those fish, if any don't get along with eachother or any special care please reply, Greatly appreciated, Thanks ahead of time.

 

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by accordsirh22 View Post
setting up a 125 as my next tank, first tentative fish list:
snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish (1) one firefish only will survive unless a bonded pair of the same species good to know i was under the impression they could be mixed and matched, in that case i will go with a pair of 1 or the other, not sure which yet though, since i like both
purple firefish (1)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2) tank raised, male plus female only thats the plan
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1) super aggressive, will not be compatible with your other fish the current one i have is not aggressive at all *shrug
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6) will become one or at most two IF they are healthy which most coming in recentlhy have not been. so all chromis have been coming in bad? i know greens had but i had not heard anything about blues. either way, these are a long time in the future
royal gramma (1)
purple tang (1) two zebrasome tangs will not coexist most of the time so not much hope for a purple and yellow together?
yellow tang (1-3) one onlyu
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12) one only why only one? i have 3 in a 7.5 atm and they get along fine. black/green/yellow.

the medium want fish:
powder brown tang (1)
powder blue tang (1)
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
yellow coris wrasse (1)
6 line wrasse (1)
sunrise pseudo (1) super aggressive same as with my dottyback, my last one was very timid, but i dont HAVE to have one *shrug
foxface (1)
flame angel (1) (on maybe due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)
as i said, this list is very tentative. just want to get some thoughts to revise/change
Please pare this list down considerably for a real behavioral analysis; at the moment you have way too many fish and way too many groups of fish


i could drop all the fish from the maybe list pretty easily cept the 2 butterflies.

sorry couldnt figure out how to quote all of it together

Please get your list down to the size appropriate to your tank size and I will reanalyze. It is infeasible for me to do that for you. However, please do not remove my coloration on comments as I cannot easily differentiate your questions from my comments.

 

[snorvich]

Just starting a reef tank 60 gallon cube (2ftx3), it is a work in progress i have 1.5-2" of sand, marine land canister filter and just got some of my live rock. I have read a lot about the fish I am looking into buy as I've learned from helping my dad build his fish only tank, everything is hit or miss. Anyways rambling on here. I am not sure what coral I am going to get, mostly softies starting off with coco worms zoas and mushrooms (any tips on that stuff is greatly appreciated).

The fish I am considering is a big list not sure how many I am able to put in the tank but here it goes,

Blue Spotted Jaw Fish, requires cooler temperature for long term survival, not recommended without a chiller
Yellow Watchmen Goby, fine
Helfrichi Firefish, only one firefish,
Purple Headed Firefish,
2 Ocellaris Clowns,
Biocolour Dottyback, pretty but very aggressive, not recommended
Citrinis Clown Goby, fine
Yellowhead Jawfish, fine
Tailspot Blenny, fine
Tankas Pygmy Wrasse (if I can find one), excellent
Six Line Wrasse, and a aggressive, not recommended
Spotted Madarin really needs a larger tank

Any tips about those fish, if any don't get along with eachother or any special care please reply, Greatly appreciated, Thanks ahead of time.

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility, for care information, Drs. Foster and Smith has pretty good information

 

[accordsirh22]

steve, as i said, i tried to keep the coloration, but when i quoted it not all of the message was appearing, so when i copy/pasted thats how it came out

so if, as i said, i got rid of most of the maybe fish, where would that leave me, in your opinion?

snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish/purple firefish (2)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2) cb pair
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1) (already have, VERY mellow, not aggressive at all)
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6) you mentioned them coming in sick. i thought this was just green chromis?
purple tang (1)
yellow tang (1) yellow and purple would go in at the same time, with as small of specimens as possible
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12) you said "one only". why only one? i have 3 in a 7.5 atm and they get along fine. black/green/yellow.
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
flame angel/coral beauty (1) (more than likely not, due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)

thanks again

 

[snorvich]

steve, as i said, i tried to keep the coloration, but when i quoted it not all of the message was appearing, so when i copy/pasted thats how it came out

so if, as i said, i got rid of most of the maybe fish, where would that leave me, in your opinion?

snowflake clown (2)(already have)
chalk bass (already have)
diamond goby (already have)
blue gudgeon (6)(already have 2)
firefish/purple firefish (2)
bar goby (4-6)
scissortail goby (4-6)
bangaii cardinal (2) cb pair
pajama cardinal (4-6)
longspine cardinal (6-12) (more towards 12)
green mandarin (2)( these wont go in til several months after its set up and running)
flametail blenny (1)
neon dottyback (1) (already have, VERY mellow, not aggressive at all)
mccoskers wrasse (1)
blue reef chromis (6) you mentioned them coming in sick. i thought this was just green chromis?
purple tang (1)
yellow tang (1) yellow and purple would go in at the same time, with as small of specimens as possible
scopas tang (1)
white tail tomini tang (1)
flame tail tomini tang (1)
clown goby (10-12) you said "one only". why only one? i have 3 in a 7.5 atm and they get along fine. black/green/yellow.
copper band butterfly (1)
longnose butterfly (1)
flame angel/coral beauty (1) (more than likely not, due to reef-safeness or lack thereof rather)

thanks again

Ok, let's try to do it this way. For your tank, come down to 15 fish. Then we can try it again.

 

[laxb0rder]

Hey I'm beginning to plan an upgrade and working what the differences would be between a 40B and a 75 gallon tank these are the fish I was thinking about and wondering how they would work together in either tank.

2 Ocellaris Clown -I've already had them for about 1 year old still quite small
2 zebra banded dart fish
Flasher wrasse or fairy wrasse -in 75 can I have 2? (Which would be more active as a show fish)
3 chromis or 3 cardinals
CUC snails only no hermits
Peppermint shirt or cleaner shrimp can you add one of each
If I go with a 75 can I add a blenny or a sand sifting goby or additional fish or have I already chosen too many.

Thanks
-Steve

 

[snorvich]

Hey I'm beginning to plan an upgrade and working what the differences would be between a 40B and a 75 gallon tank these are the fish I was thinking about and wondering how they would work together in either tank.

2 Ocellaris Clown -I've already had them for about 1 year old still quite small
2 zebra banded dart fish
Flasher wrasse or fairy wrasse -in 75 can I have 2? (Which best would be a male plus female flasher would be more active as a show fish)
3 chromis or 3 cardinals cardinals would be better
CUC snails only no hermits
Peppermint shirt or cleaner shrimp can you add one of each
If I go with a 75 can I add a blenny or a sand sifting goby or additional fish or have I already chosen too many.

A blenny would be fine.

Thanks
-Steve

except as annotated, all would be fine.

 

[LNbean]

My first tank...started it 2 months ago and loving it. 29gal biocube, skimmer in the back chamber, 20 lbs live sand, 15 lbs live rock, 4 snails, 5 hermits, 2 peppermint shrimp, 2 chromis, and 1 royal gramma basslet. Interested in adding over time (but not sure what max capacity would be): 1 yellow or green clown goby, 1 or 2 clownfish (probably ocellaris), blue tuxedo urchin. Any thoughts about those and suggestions for other/different additions? I do plan on an anemone and some corals later on as well. Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

My first tank...started it 2 months ago and loving it. 29gal biocube, skimmer in the back chamber, 20 lbs live sand, 15 lbs live rock, 4 snails, 5 hermits, hermits will kill snails over time for their shells 2 peppermint shrimp, 2 chromis (will likely become only one), and 1 royal gramma basslet. Interested in adding over time (but not sure what max capacity would be): 1 yellow or green clown goby fine, 1 or 2 clownfish (probably ocellaris) should be fine , blue tuxedo urchin. Any thoughts about those and suggestions for other/different additions? I do plan on an anemone and some corals later on as well. Thanks!

the anemone success will depend on lighting and flow but usually your tank is not large enough long term

 

[salty72]

Hi Again,
So I ended up getting the 6-line, love her (or him but I prefer to call it a her cause she's so "pretty" looking) and so far not agressive. And I got a file fish (not ONE aptashia anemone left!) Love that thing as well. So I had a couple of questions regarding more additions:
1) Can my 75 gallon handle more fish? Or SHOULD it I guess I should ask. How many more could I get?
2) If I add more cardinal fish, will they school with the one I have?
3) Same for the chromis, the two I have don't leave each others sides.
4) Can I get a purple firefish, will that be compatible with the red fire fish?
5) Really want a dwarf coral beauty (I know the risks with my corals)
Thanks ahead for any advice.

 

[Patrick Cox]

Hi,
How does this stocking plan sound for a 75G (36x24x20) primarily SPS tank with shallow sand bed and about 50 lbs of rock and a roughly 20G sump?

2x Percula Clowns (they are hosting my frogspawn.)
1x Yellow Assessor
1x Blackline Blenny
1x Neon Goby
1x Small Blue Green Chromis

Would this be a full bio load? I have an SRO skimmer rated for 90G-160G, I run filter socks and change them out twice per week and I run GAC and GFO.

Thanks!

 

[LNbean]

the anemone success will depend on lighting and flow but usually your tank is not large enough long term

Thanks !

 

[snorvich]

Hi Again,
So I ended up getting the 6-line, love her (or him but I prefer to call it a her cause she's so "pretty" looking) and so far not agressive. And I got a file fish (not ONE aptashia anemone left!) Love that thing as well. So I had a couple of questions regarding more additions:
1) Can my 75 gallon handle more fish? Or SHOULD it I guess I should ask. How many more could I get? that question is not answerable as it depends on behavior and size
2) If I add more cardinal fish, will they school with the one I have? no
3) Same for the chromis, the two I have don't leave each others sides. two may become one eventually
4) Can I get a purple firefish, will that be compatible with the red fire fish? only one firefish per tank long term unless they are a bonded male female pair
5) Really want a dwarf coral beauty (I know the risks with my corals) no behavioral issues except corals

note that you have now have two aggressive fish that may preclude future additions
Thanks ahead for any advice.