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[AmberFL03]

I have a 55 gal, 2.0 Sicce pump, sump with wet/dry filter, job overflow, currently ~45 lbs all cured live rock, ~ 1 1/2-2" sand bed. I've done quite a bit of research while my tank has been cycling and I'd like to know what reef central members think about my intended inhabitants:

Snowflake eel (echidna nebulosa)
White-eyed moray (gymnothorax thyrsoideus)
Caribbean Jewel damsel (microspathodon chrysurus)
Blue mandarin (p. slendidus)
Spotted mandarin
Assorted crabs or snails
Brittle/starfish

I know the damsel and mandarins can't go in a newly cycled tank so those would be added later. I've got plenty of hiding places for the eels, and I picked these species for temperament, size, and their natural habit of sharing caves with other eel species.

 

[snorvich]

10 gallon tank with plans for SPS/LPS - lots of light/filtration

1 Royal gramma
1 Neon goby
1 Peppermint shrimp (or shrimp of a similar size)

OR

1 Percula clown
1 Azure damsel

OR

1 Diadem dottyback
1 Cleaner shrimp

Which of the above would be acceptable?

Unfortunately, none of these options will work in a ten gallon tank.

 

[snorvich]

I have a 55 gal, 2.0 Sicce pump, sump with wet/dry filter, job overflow, currently ~45 lbs all cured live rock, ~ 1 1/2-2" sand bed. I've done quite a bit of research while my tank has been cycling and I'd like to know what reef central members

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think about my intended inhabitants:

Snowflake eel (echidna nebulosa)
White-eyed moray (gymnothorax thyrsoideus)

I do not provide analysis or commentary on aggressive fish tanks. Sorry.

Caribbean Jewel damsel (microspathodon chrysurus)
Blue mandarin (p. slendidus)
Spotted mandarin
Assorted crabs or snails
Brittle/starfish

I know the damsel and mandarins can't go in a newly cycled tank so those would be added later. I've got plenty of hiding places for the eels, and I picked these species for temperament, size, and their natural habit of sharing caves with other eel species.

 

[AmberFL03]

Aren't tangs and triggers just as aggressive if not more so than these eels?

 

[2to]

Hmm, alright.

How about . . .

1 yellow clown goby
1 tanaka pygmy wrasse

OR

1 firefish

OR

1 Royal Gramma (I'm under the impression that this guy is a bit too big even solitary though...)



Could settle for a single neon goby (or a longer-lived alternative) if nothing else suffices. Corals are why I went saltwater, but I'd still like something that swims around.

 

[snorvich]

Aren't tangs and triggers just as aggressive if not more so than these eels?

While this is NOT a discussion thread, the answer depends on many factors. In any case, best answers to your stocking list question can be obtained in the aggressive fish forum as a separate thread.

 

[snorvich]

Hmm, alright.

How about . . .

1 yellow clown goby
1 tanaka pygmy wrasse

OR

1 firefish

OR

1 Royal Gramma (I'm under the impression that this guy is a bit too big even solitary though...)



Could settle for a single neon goby (or a longer-lived alternative) if nothing else suffices. Corals are why I went saltwater, but I'd still like something that swims around.

Either of the first two options will work. For the firefish, however, you need a covered tank.

 

[michfish5]

Rethinking my wishlist for my 65 gallon (60lb LR, 30lbs live sand, Aquamaxx skimmer, Aquaclear70 HOB, Jaebo WP25 wavemaker, no sump) FOWLR. Lots of caves in rockwork, good amount of mid/upper level swimming space:

1x Bartlett Anthias
1x Blue Reef Chromis
2x Banggai Cardinals (tank bred, M/F)
1x Ocellaris Clown (maybe 2?)
1x Royal Gramma
1x Lemonpeel Angel

Is this okay? Thanks in advance.

 

[snorvich]

Rethinking my wishlist for my 65 gallon (60lb LR, 30lbs live sand, Aquamaxx skimmer, Aquaclear70 HOB, Jaebo WP25 wavemaker, no sump) FOWLR. Lots of caves in rockwork, good amount of mid/upper level swimming space:

1x Bartlett Anthias
1x Blue Reef Chromis
2x Banggai Cardinals (tank bred, M/F)
1x Ocellaris Clown (maybe 2?)
1x Royal Gramma
1x Lemonpeel Angel last

Is this okay? Thanks in advance.

That should be fine

 

[Deep Reef]

I picked up a 120g DT (24"W x 48"L x 24" H) that I will be transferring all my current inhabitants from my 75 DT to and then adding some others.

Current List
(1) kole tang
(1) Kaudern's Cardinal
(2) saddleback clowns
(1) labout's fairy wrasse
(1) Yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp
(1) red hermit


I was hoping to add:
(1) yellow tang or one spot foxface for color
(1) diamond back goby (to clean sand) will this compete with YWG
(1) solon fairy wrasse

I'm not sure if I will add anything else. Your comments would be appreciated

 

[snorvich]

I picked up a 120g DT (24"W x 48"L x 24" H) that I will be transferring all my current inhabitants from my 75 DT to and then adding some others.

Current List
(1) kole tang
(1) Kaudern's Cardinal
(2) saddleback clowns
(1) labout's fairy wrasse
(1) Yellow watchman goby and pistol shrimp
(1) red hermit


I was hoping to add:
(1) yellow tang or one spot foxface for color foxface would be preferable
(1) diamond back goby (to clean sand) will this compete with YWG the two fish will not get along
(1) solon fairy wrasse will lose some coloration absent a female; on the more aggressive side for fairy wrasses

I'm not sure if I will add anything else. Your comments would be appreciated

 

[Deep Reef]

? Not sure what you ment... Am I good?

 

[snorvich]

? Not sure what you ment... Am I good?

I provided comments. The foxface is less likely to be a problem long term than a yellow tang, two sand dwelling fish residing in the same ecological niche will be a problem; C. solorensis may be a problem with the existing fairy wrasse because they are aggressive. If you have a social acclimating box, that should solve that problem initially but may preclude similar additions going forward.

 

[Deep Reef]

sorry they didn't show on my tablet. thanks again and sorry.

 

[Kessler]

Hey again Steve, thanks for the help earlier, but my plans for the 75 seem to died and now I'm back to a 40 breeder FOWLR. Sad I don't get any tangs, but I'll try to make due. I'm pretty much going to try the same list we've decided on earlier but with no tang. Would any of these guys have any trouble in a 40?

2x true perc
1x potter's angel
1x royal gramma
1x McCosker's/carpenter flasher
1x firefish
1x bicolor blenny
1x mandarin goby (after establishing)

CUC, cleaner shrimp, and other misc inverts (maybe a cucumber and starfish).

 

[snorvich]

Hey again Steve, thanks for the help earlier, but my plans for the 75 seem to died and now I'm back to a 40 breeder FOWLR. Sad I don't get any tangs, but I'll try to make due. I'm pretty much going to try the same list we've decided on earlier but with no tang. Would any of these guys have any trouble in a 40?

2x true perc
1x potter's angel difficult
1x royal gramma
1x McCosker's/carpenter flasher needs larger tank
1x firefish needs covered tank; introduce first
1x bicolor blenny
1x mandarin goby (after establishing) needs larger tank

CUC, cleaner shrimp, and other misc inverts (maybe a cucumber and starfish).

 

[RAMMD]

I have 2 tanks that I'm setting up at the same time, a 220g reef and a 140g FOWLR. Each aquarium has ample live rock and a deep sand bed in addition to a relatively large refugium.

Wish list for the 220g reef
Corals; colony polyps, waving hand, jasmine polyp, glove polyp, blue sympodium polyp, toadstool leather, pipe organ coral, hammer coral, frogspawn coral, tooth coral, mushroom coral and green star polyp.......in addition to my clean up crew of scarlet skunk cleaners,banded coral shrimp and peppermint shrimp...snails are nassarius, bumble bee, and conch.


Now to make sure the fish get along and don't tear up the corals and inverts:
1. Flame angel
2. Royal gramma
3. Barnacle blenny (3)
4. Mated pair of ocellaris clownfish
5. One spot foxface
6. Flame hawkfish
7. Desjardini sailfin tang
8. White cheek tang
9. Lamarcks angelfish

The 140g FOWLR
1. Purple tang
2. Flame hawkfish
3. Harlequin tuskfish
4. Orchid dottyback

These are the only fish that would be added to the tanks. I have a 400g in storage but I don't want to set it up until the fish get a little larger and because we may be moving within the next year. I appreciate your assistance.

 

[snorvich]

I have 2 tanks that I'm setting up at the same time, a 220g reef and a 140g FOWLR. Each aquarium has ample live rock and a deep sand bed in addition to a relatively large refugium.

Wish list for the 220g reef
Corals; colony polyps, waving hand, jasmine polyp, glove polyp, blue sympodium polyp, toadstool leather, pipe organ coral, hammer coral, frogspawn coral, tooth coral, mushroom coral and green star polyp.......in addition to my clean up crew of scarlet skunk cleaners,banded coral shrimp and peppermint shrimp...snails are nassarius, bumble bee, and conch.


Now to make sure the fish get along and don't tear up the corals and inverts:
1. Flame angel
2. Royal gramma
3. Barnacle blenny (3)
4. Mated pair of ocellaris clownfish
5. One spot foxface
6. Flame hawkfish not shrimp safe
7. Desjardini sailfin tang must be last fish added although it will do better in an 8 foot tank
8. White cheek tang
9. Lamarcks angelfish

fine except as noted

The 140g FOWLR
1. Purple tang
2. Flame hawkfish
3. Harlequin tuskfish
4. Orchid dottyback

should be fine

These are the only fish that would be added to the tanks. I have a 400g in storage but I don't want to set it up until the fish get a little larger and because we may be moving within the next year. I appreciate your assistance.

 

[RAMMD]

Do you know of any other species that has a hawkish like behavior and appearance but without the affinity to consume all the shrimp in the tank. I had a falco hawkfish in my last reef tank that behaved well but I assume that was a fluke that I don't want to risk. If you know of any I enjoy doing the research on the species. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[snorvich]

Do you know of any other species that has a hawkish like behavior and appearance but without the affinity to consume all the shrimp in the tank. I had a falco hawkfish in my last reef tank that behaved well but I assume that was a fluke that I don't want to risk. If you know of any I enjoy doing the research on the species. Any help would be appreciated.

There are many other ambush predators. However they either eat fish or inverts.