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[snorvich]

Are fish within the same genus generally the same in terms of hardiness, feeding, etc.?

No. While some generalizations are possible, it is usually a bad idea to make those kind of assumptions.

 

[myownlife]

I have 34g cube 20x20x20
My current stock is
1 3inch flame angel
1 2 inch black white clown hosting 4 inch pink bubble tip
1 new 2 inch citron clown goby
1 fire shrimp
1 skunk shrimp
3 hermits and several snails

Corals
3 chalice, 3 acan, frogspawn, 2 torches, several zoas and palys, 2 maxi mini and one rock anemone

I have 35lbs of Tonga live rock and 40lbs of sand

Aquamaxx hob skimmer. Its a beast
2 tunze 9025 power heads 725 gph


I will be adding a 20 gallon Lifereef sump in December once completed

I would like to add one more fish which would be an orchid dottyback. Do you feel this would be possible.

 

[Kennyleary93]

So in this order is what I plan on introducing to my 30 gallon tank with live rock and sand and a 20g sump will be had in the future.

1 x Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (Amblyeleotris randalli)
1 x Snapping Shrimp, Red Banded (Alpheus randalli)
1 x Firefish, Helfrichi (Nemateleotris helfrichi)
1 x Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
2 x True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)

 

[snorvich]

I have 34g cube 20x20x20
My current stock is
1 3inch flame angel
1 2 inch black white clown hosting 4 inch pink bubble tip FYI, the bubble tip anemone "hosts", the clown fish "associates"
1 new 2 inch citron clown goby
1 fire shrimp
1 skunk shrimp
3 hermits and several snails

Corals
3 chalice, 3 acan, frogspawn, 2 torches, several zoas and palys, 2 maxi mini and one rock anemone

I have 35lbs of Tonga live rock and 40lbs of sand

Aquamaxx hob skimmer. Its a beast
2 tunze 9025 power heads 725 gph


I will be adding a 20 gallon Lifereef sump in December once completed

I would like to add one more fish which would be an orchid dottyback. Do you feel this would be possible.

P fridmani is the least aggressive pseudochromis but is still semi-aggressive; marginal, but ok in this setup

 

[snorvich]

So in this order is what I plan on introducing to my 30 gallon tank with live rock and sand and a 20g sump will be had in the future.

1 x Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (Amblyeleotris randalli)
1 x Snapping Shrimp, Red Banded (Alpheus randalli)
1 x Firefish, Helfrichi (Nemateleotris helfrichi)
1 x Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
2 x True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)

That will be fine

 

[FsuNole]

Thanks for helping us out snorvich! I'm currently building my 58 gallon and have built a 20 gallon sump for it as well. I just ordered 60 lbs of dry rock and 40 lbs of sand. I will be seeding it with a piece of live rock once my structure is built... I'm thinking of doing arches with shelves and maybe a peninsula so that there are places to hide. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank. I think the dimentions of my tank are 36" long x 18" wide x 21" tall. I will be running a mag 7 return pump and have a Hydor Koralia Evolution Aquarium Circulation Pump, 850 GPH. I'm interested what you think of this list...

2 firefish
2 clowns
1 Royal Gramma Basslet
1 Red/Green or spotted mandarin
1 Papuan toby puffer
1 Bartlett's Anthias
A school of Blue/Green Reef Chromis
A few Four Stripe Damselfish
1 One spot foxface
1 White Tail Bristletooth Tang
Not sure how many Wrasse I can get but I really like the following:
6 line wrasse
Vrolik's Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Whipfin Fairy Wrasse

Thanks for your input!

 

[myownlife]

Indeed on the bubble tip hosting the clown that's what I meant.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks for helping us out snorvich! I'm currently building my 58 gallon and have built a 20 gallon sump for it as well. I just ordered 60 lbs of dry rock and 40 lbs of sand. I will be seeding it with a piece of live rock once my structure is built... I'm thinking of doing arches with shelves and maybe a peninsula so that there are places to hide. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank. I think the dimentions of my tank are 36" long x 18" wide x 21" tall. I will be running a mag 7 return pump and have a Hydor Koralia Evolution Aquarium Circulation Pump, 850 GPH. I'm interested what you think of this list...

2 firefish unless this a bonded, male plus female pair, only one will survive long term
2 clowns depending on species, they may command 25-50 gallons of tank space once sexually mature
1 Royal Gramma Basslet
1 Red/Green or spotted mandarin needs a larger tank
1 Papuan toby puffer will nip on fins of tank mates
1 Bartlett's Anthias needs a larger tank
A school of Blue/Green Reef Chromis needs a much larger tank and they will not "school"; also these have been coming in less than healthy in recent times with uronema symptoms
A few Four Stripe Damselfish very aggressive, will terrorize most water column fish in this sized tank
1 One spot foxface needs a larger tank
1 White Tail Bristletooth Tang needs a larger tank
Not sure how many Wrasse I can get but I really like the following:
6 line wrasse very aggressive, not compatibile with a dragonette
Vrolik's Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Whipfin Fairy Wrasse

Unfortunately, this is way too many fish for this sized tank

Thanks for your input!

 

[cbass488]

55 gallon. Remora Pro S skimmer. No sump, have a Fluval 305 for mech. filtration. Aquaclear 70 converted into a small refugium. A few LPS and 1 softie so far. Assorted snails and a peppermint shrimp for cuc.

Current residents:
1 Banggai Cardinal
1 Tank bred Ocelleris Clown
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Six Line Wrasse

Would still like to add:
1 Royal Gramma
1 Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any issues you can see? Thanks in advance!

 

[snorvich]

55 gallon. Remora Pro S skimmer. No sump, have a Fluval 305 for mech. filtration. Aquaclear 70 converted into a small refugium. A few LPS and 1 softie so far. Assorted snails and a peppermint shrimp for cuc.

Current residents:
1 Banggai Cardinal
1 Tank bred Ocelleris Clown
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Six Line Wrasse

Would still like to add:
1 Royal Gramma
1 Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any issues you can see? Thanks in advance!

The sixline wrasse may have issue with the Gramma loretto

 

[cbass488]

Thank-you.

The six line is still very small, and I hope the Gramma shows up at the lfs soon. Hope adding them young will reduce the chance of aggression, but thank-you. I will watch closely for issues.

 

[snorvich]

Thank-you.

The six line is still very small, and I hope the Gramma shows up at the lfs soon. Hope adding them young will reduce the chance of aggression, but thank-you. I will watch closely for issues.

Unfortunately, that is not the case. As fish mature their perceived territorial imperative expands.

 

[Baltimore Bryan]

55 gallon with 20 gallon sump, DIY skimmer, plenty of liverock and DSB in sump. Probably fish only, maybe some softies and macroalgae, but definitely no SPS.
3 green chromis
2 clownfish (either occ, perc, or saddleback)
1 dwarf angelfish (probably flame, coral beauty, or elibi)
1 carpenter's flasher wrasse
1 mandarin dragonete
Possibly either a royal gramma or a female carpenter's flasher wrasse

Thanks in advance, very helpful thread.
Bryan

 

[ucdcrew]

75g w/ 20g long sump (48 inch tank)

1x - One Spot Foxface Rabbitfish
1x - Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
1x - Kaudern's Cardinal

 

[nanomania]

Here is the approx stock list for my 125g..... some are optional, so might not add at all... also would like to know the order of adding fish...

GBTA 2
Oc. Clown 2
Sebae Clown 2
Chromis 4to6
Blue devil Damsel 4to6 optional
Bangai Cardinal 2
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1
Sailfin Tang 1 optional
Fire goby 2to3
Purple goby 2
****** trigger/blue throat 1 optional
Hardy Anthias 4to6
Bicolour blenny 1
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Fuzzy dwarf lion 1
a dwarf lobster 1
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Non aggressive wrasses 3 optional
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1
Possibly more schooling small fish

 

[snorvich]

55 gallon with 20 gallon sump, DIY skimmer, plenty of liverock and DSB in sump. Probably fish only, maybe some softies and macroalgae, but definitely no SPS.
3 green chromis will become one; also, have been coming in unhealthy with uronema symptoms
2 clownfish (either occ, perc, or saddleback) the first two would work, the latter would be very aggressive once sexually mature
1 dwarf angelfish (probably flame, coral beauty, or elibi)
1 carpenter's flasher wrasse
1 mandarin dragonete needs a larger tank
Possibly either a royal gramma or a female carpenter's flasher wrasse

Thanks in advance, very helpful thread.
Bryan

 

[snorvich]

75g w/ 20g long sump (48 inch tank)

1x - One Spot Foxface Rabbitfish
1x - Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
1x - Kaudern's Cardinal

should be fine

 

[snorvich]

Here is the approx stock list for my 125g..... some are optional, so might not add at all... also would like to know the order of adding fish...

GBTA 2
Oc. Clown 2 only one pair of clownfish
Sebae Clown 2 only one pair of clownfish, these are aggressive
Chromis 4to6 will become one or at most two over time
Blue devil Damsel 4to6 optional skip, very aggressive
Bangai Cardinal 2 must be tank raised; male plus female only
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1 needs larger tank
Sailfin Tang 1 optional COLOR="Magenta"]needs larger tank[/COLOR]
Fire goby 2to3 only one will survive long term unless they are a bonded pair
Purple goby 2
****** trigger/blue throat 1 optional skip
Hardy Anthias 4to6 which species
Bicolour blenny 1 only one blenny
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Fuzzy dwarf lion 1 skip; will eat fish
a dwarf lobster 1 not reef or fish safe
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Non aggressive wrasses 3 optional
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1
Possibly more schooling small fish

This is way too many fish, please reduce to a realistic stocking plan

 

[hawks66]

Here's the plan 90g tank. plan on adding the groups about a month to 6 weeks apart.
group 1,
2 ocellaris clowns
1 blue chromis

group 2
green clown goby
yellow tang
pink spotted watchman goby

group 3
Melanurus Wrasse

group 4
flame angel
coral beauty


6-9 months later
green mandarin (any difference between Male and Female?)

 

[apolloreef]

Beginner trying to plan out a 20g long tank. The tank will have 2 powerheads and a HOB converted to a refugium (aquaclear 70). About 20 lbs of rock, 2/3 introduced as live. Eventually will add a couple of easy corals, but startign FOWLR.

I am looking at a combo of the following fish:
Ocellaris Clown (maybe a pair)
Firefish
Small Species of Shrimp Goby (plus shrimp)
Tailspot Blenny
Clown or Citron Goby

**I've had people suggest a midas blenny, but it seems like it would be too large. I am trying to stay with small/mostly non-aggressive fish.

In addition, would it be better to swap out any of these fish for a Royal Gramma?

The tank will also have a robust snail cleanup crew. I've been told to stick to a need-only basis with emerald crabs. On the fence whether a couple micro hermits are a good idea or not.