PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

I have a 165 gallon reef tank with lots of live rock and live sand. I also have a 55 gallon sump/refugium. The tank currently has lps, sps, some softies, a yellow tang, a blue hippo tang, a bangai cardinal, a blue/green chromis, tailspot blenny, and a mated pair of true perc clowns. Currently my water perameters are all great, nitrites 0, nitrates 0, ammonia 0, phosphate 0, ph 8 salinity 1.024, temperature 78 degrees. I would like to add a few more things to the tank and wanted to know what your thoughts were. I know that all of these cannot be added to this tank. That would over crowd the tank by a lot. Is there any of these that you would not recommend or that would not go with what I currrently have in the tank?

Here is the list of posibilities.

Cleaner shrimp
flasher wrasse (probably the carpenter's flasher wrasse)
purple tilefish
green mandarin
One spot foxface that would be four grazers which may be a bit much in this sized tank
flame angel that would be four grazers which may be a bit much in this sized tank
copperband butterflyfish
tiger watchman goby
schooling bannerfish

The P. hepatus needs a larger (longer) tank

Thank you,

 

[jdurell]

You are correct about the P. Hepatus. I am currently designing a new 300 gallon tank which I will get built within the next 2 years. So how many of the fish on this list would you be able to add to the current tank load safely?

 

[trinidiver]

I have a 200+gal reef with a 60gal sump up and running nearly 3yrs now. I already have numerous fish in the tank but the main question is that I have 5 pajama cardinals over 2 yrs now (approx. 2") and I want to know if I can add a few more (maybe 3) along with about 2-3 bangais and not have an issue with them fighting. If not i'll jus go back with about 5-7 bartlet anthais to give my tank that color which I lost a few mths ago due to a malfunctioning chiller controller.
Other question, I already have a yellow possum wrasse nearly 2 yrs now, can I put a tanaka wrasse and not have any problems. Rock work is not an issue cause there is approx 300lbs of rockworks in the main display for them to find food. Either that or a mandarin.

Thanks.

 

[snorvich]

You are correct about the P. Hepatus. I am currently designing a new 300 gallon tank which I will get built within the next 2 years. So how many of the fish on this list would you be able to add to the current tank load safely?

I would advise forgetting the grazers since the tank would not really sustain them and the existing tangs may not allow them in this sized tank. If you are thinking of a new tank, remember that from a fish perspective, length is the most important dimension whereas from an aquascaping perspective, tank width is most important.

 

[snorvich]

I have a 200+gal reef with a 60gal sump up and running nearly 3yrs now. I already have numerous fish in the tank but the main question is that I have 5 pajama cardinals over 2 yrs now (approx. 2") and I want to know if I can add a few more (maybe 3) Should be fine


along with about 2-3 bangais only two, a male plus female and tank raised, more will not work


and not have an issue with them fighting. If not i'll jus go back with about 5-7 bartlet anthais to give my tank that color which I lost a few mths ago due to a malfunctioning chiller controller.
Other question, I already have a yellow possum wrasse nearly 2 yrs now, can I put a tanaka wrasse and not have any problems. Rock work is not an issue cause there is approx 300lbs of rockworks in the main display for them to find food. Either that or a mandarin.

either should be fine. There are some fish that will not allow a new mandarin: cleaner wrasse, and some leopard wrasses

Thanks.

 

[nitr8]

PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

My LFS has a few panda gobys I'd say no more than a 1/2" in length. I have a pretty heavily stocked 90g SPS reef (including a few pocillopora frags) with more than adequate filtration to handle the bio load, although I couldn't imagine this little guy having much of an impact just wanted to rule out bio load as a concern and gear more towards the other inhabitants and whether or not they will play nice. Here is my stock list.



Black snowflake and wyoming white ocellaris pair

Yellow tang

Lyretail Anthias

Borbonius Anthias

Blue green chromis

Bangaii cardinal

Royal gramma

Red mandarin

Ruby red dragonet

(4) serpent stars (smooth legs)

 

[m0nkie]

Hi guys! new fish tank owner here and extremely noob. I'm in the process of building the tank. But I wanted to start doing some research on what fish to get later.

Goal: coral + fish tank

Currently have:
100gal tank
50lb rock (should I buy more?)
80lb sand
heater
40gal custom sump with refugium
Sicce return pump
Reef Octopus Diablo XS200
Jebao WP40 wave maker
2 Coralife Aqualite 30" (I know it's pretty crappy, these are from my old turtle tank, I plan on getting some LED soon)

waiting to get:
-chiller
-Tunze ATO
-Ecotech Vortech Mp40

I want to add corals eventually after I get some reactors. I would like to start on a few fish. (edit: not getting them at once or in that order)

- black clownfish
- orange clownfish
- yellow tang
- blue tang
- sea star (Sandsifting, Fromia or serpent star)
- cleaning shrimps
- Watchman Goby
- urchin
- clam
- coral (eventually)


so any recommendations and suggestions on how to introduce them? or what's not recommended on the list

 

[snorvich]

My LFS has a few panda gobys I'd say no more than a 1/2" in length. I have a pretty heavily stocked 90g SPS reef (including a few pocillopora frags) with more than adequate filtration to handle the bio load, although I couldn't imagine this little guy having much of an impact just wanted to rule out bio load as a concern and gear more towards the other inhabitants and whether or not they will play nice. Here is my stock list.



Black snowflake and wyoming white ocellaris pair

Yellow tang will eventually need a longer tank

Lyretail Anthias

Borbonius Anthias

Blue green chromis

Bangaii cardinal

Royal gramma

Red mandarin

Ruby red dragonet

(4) serpent stars (smooth legs)

Panda gobies normally hang out on Pocillopora corals; they will have little to no effect on bioload and are totally non-aggressive.

 

[nitr8]

Panda gobies normally hang out on Pocillopora corals; they will have little to no effect on bioload and are totally non-aggressive.

I'm more worried about whether or not my fish will eat it.

 

[snorvich]

Hi guys! new fish tank owner here and extremely noob. I'm in the process of building the tank. But I wanted to start doing some research on what fish to get later.

Goal: coral + fish tank

Currently have:
100gal tank
50lb rock (should I buy more?)
80lb sand
heater
40gal custom sump with refugium
Sicce return pump
Reef Octopus Diablo XS200
Jebao WP40 wave maker
2 Coralife Aqualite 30" (I know it's pretty crappy, these are from my old turtle tank, I plan on getting some LED soon)

waiting to get:
-chiller
-Tunze ATO
-Ecotech Vortech Mp40

I want to add corals eventually after I get some reactors. I would like to start on a few fish. (edit: not getting them at once or in that order)

- black clownfish
- orange clownfish
- yellow tang must be last fish added
- blue tang needs a much larger (longer) tank
- sea star (Sandsifting, Fromia or serpent star) either will likely starve in this sized tank
- cleaning shrimps
- Watchman Goby
- urchin
- clam
- coral (eventually)


so any recommendations and suggestions on how to introduce them? or what's not recommended on the list

 

[snorvich]

I'm more worried about whether or not my fish will eat it.

the ones that would be risky are:

Borbonius Anthias
Bangaii cardinal

 

[tjh9100]

Alright hello everyone I am new to the forum and to saltwater. I have been into freshwater for about 10 years now and had discus for about 2 years now. I also have live plants in my discus tank.

I have a 90 gallon aquarium with a 20 gallon long sump. A top phathom 110a protein skimmer with a rio2100 pump on it. My return pump is the Rio 2500 and with 4 ft head on the return it is returning about 500gph and 3 wavemakers running about 3000gph.

I am still in the setup stages so I do not have all of my sand in or any rock yet, but I do plan on doing about 150 lbs of rock ad for the mixture of live and dried reef rock I am currently uncertain how much I am doing of each. It is eventually gonna be a reef and fish tank predominantly running lps and soft corals and some sps. I want to start from frags because I love watching the economy system I create develop.

My goal for fish and this is where I need opinions is,
1 yellow tang
1 one spot foxface
1 red velvet fairy wrasse
2 ocellaris clowns
2 firefish gobies
2 kaudrens cardinals

And I am unsure what my reef clean up crew will consist of yet and I would really like to have a chocolate chip starfish in there to at some point. my fear is this is alot of fish for a 90 but I like em all ha ha. Please this is were I need opinions on what to do or how that mixture sounds.

 

[tjh9100]

O and sorry for the run on sentences and grammar errors.

 

[snorvich]

Alright hello everyone I am new to the forum and to saltwater. I have been into freshwater for about 10 years now and had discus for about 2 years now. I also have live plants in my discus tank.

I have a 90 gallon aquarium with a 20 gallon long sump. A top phathom 110a protein skimmer with a rio2100 pump on it. My return pump is the Rio 2500 and with 4 ft head on the return it is returning about 500gph and 3 wavemakers running about 3000gph.

I am still in the setup stages so I do not have all of my sand in or any rock yet, but I do plan on doing about 150 lbs of rock ad for the mixture of live and dried reef rock I am currently uncertain how much I am doing of each. It is eventually gonna be a reef and fish tank predominantly running lps and soft corals and some sps. I want to start from frags because I love watching the economy system I create develop.

My goal for fish and this is where I need opinions is,
1 yellow tang needs a larger tank and especially with another grazer (the fox face)
1 one spot foxface reef safe only if well fed
1 red velvet fairy wrasse
2 ocellaris clowns
2 firefish gobies only one will survive unless a bonded pair
2 kaudrens cardinals tank raised, only male plus female if two

And I am unsure what my reef clean up crew will consist of yet and I would really like to have a chocolate chip starfish in there to at some point. my fear is this is alot of fish for a 90 but I like em all ha ha. Please this is were I need opinions on what to do or how that mixture sounds.

 

[tjh9100]

So if I get rid of the tang and one firefish could I possibly have a dwarf flame angel and another kind of fairy wrasse as long as I keep the dwarf angel and foxface well fed

 

[Vadafallon]

Can i keep this group of Chromis together and with my current reef inhabitants.

I have 2 bangai cardinals, 2 chalk bass and a large pinnis goby.

The ones i am interest in: blue green chromis, lemon chromis, black axil chromis, blue reef chromis, orange line chromis and sunshine chromis.

i also want to get a blenny of some sort, a clown goby and maybe a wrasse.

 

[snorvich]

So if I get rid of the tang and one firefish could I possibly have a dwarf flame angel and another kind of fairy wrasse as long as I keep the dwarf angel and foxface well fed

fairy wrasses are totally reef safe although some species can be on the ornery side. Any dwarf angel is not really reef safe.

 

[snorvich]

Can i keep this group of Chromis together and with my current reef inhabitants. tank size?

I have 2 bangai cardinals, 2 chalk bass and a large pinnis goby.

The ones i am interest in: blue green chromis, lemon chromis, black axil chromis, blue reef chromis, orange line chromis and sunshine chromis. there are a couple of issues with chromis: first they will reduce their number over time as the most dominant kills off the remainder; secondly chromis seem highly susceptible to uronema marinum so you had better have a rigorous quarantine protocol.

i also want to get a blenny of some sort, a clown goby and maybe a wrasse.

 

[tjh9100]

Ok thank you I will probably be on here again as I get closer to getting my tank fully set up

 

[Vadafallon]

But with them being different species would they still weed the weak out? And also i know this is not a place for recommendations but what are some alternatives i can look at instead of Chromis?