Red Cyano is killing me

[MacDime]

Ive been fighting red cyano in 60 cube for months now. I do weekly 20% water changes, run GFO, skim, greatly reduced feeding, and even tried chemi clean. The chemi clean worked for about a month and then it came back. I run a Jebaeo DC return pump, Jebaeo WP40 and Korallia 3. What can I do to stop the red slime!!!!:worried2:

 

[sahin]

Ive been fighting red cyano in 60 cube for months now. I do weekly 20% water changes, run GFO, skim, greatly reduced feeding, and even tried chemi clean. The chemi clean worked for about a month and then it came back. I run a Jebaeo DC return pump, Jebaeo WP40 and Korallia 3. What can I do to stop the red slime!!!!:worried2:

Are you dosing any organic carbon source? If so, reduce the amount by 50% and see if it makes a difference.

If not, then I bet your nitrates are too low. I'd stop the GFO, feed a bit more and run GAC. Everything else maintain as you are. 3 weeks and you should see a difference.

FWIW Chemiclean doesnt always work. And sometimes can make way for worse stuff like Dinos to take hold.

 

[MacDime]

Are you dosing any organic carbon source? If so, reduce the amount by 50% and see if it makes a difference.

If not, then I bet your nitrates are too low. I'd stop the GFO, feed a bit more and run GAC. Everything else maintain as you are. 3 weeks and you should see a difference.

FWIW Chemiclean doesnt always work. And sometimes can make way for worse stuff like Dinos to take hold.

No organic carbon dosing. Wouldn't the GFO not affect nitrates? Only the phosphates?

 

[JB NY]

Just dose the tank with red slime remover and move on. It's great to be able to take care of it naturally but how much time do you want to invest in this? At some point just take the easy route and move on. RSR will not cause any issues, I've used it in the past, I know tons of people who have used it with SPS tanks. All the cyano will die off and that will be all that will happen.

 

[MacDime]

Just dose the tank with red slime remover and move on. It's great to be able to take care of it naturally but how much time do you want to invest in this? At some point just take the easy route and move on. RSR will not cause any issues, I've used it in the past, I know tons of people who have used it with SPS tanks. All the cyano will die off and that will be all that will happen.

That's the thing, I used it before and it came back within a month

 

[Joey_bananas420]

Red slime remover will get rid of the red slim temporarily but the cause of the red slim are still there. Not to mention treatments like chemical clean will kill off your good dentrifying bacteria as well. Meaning cyano will continue to return. You either need to remove nutrient sinks with more flow or better rock placement or better nutrient export to get rid of the food source. The nutrients the cyano is feeding off of. Cyano is pregistoric and part of the reason all life exists on earth. It's vertically everywhere on earth. Some of the oldest fossils on record are cyano bacteria. With that said it's pretty much always present but you need to keep it at bay with low nutrients. With that said there a several different strains of cyano and some are known to grow in water that is low in nitrates and po4 to combat these strains I have heard people having success by raising their alkalinity or magnesium to shock the environment and stimulate a die off in the cyano.

 

[MacDime]

Red slime remover will get rid of the red slim temporarily but the cause of the red slim are still there. Not to mention treatments like chemical clean will kill off your good dentrifying bacteria as well. Meaning cyano will continue to return. You either need to remove nutrient sinks with more flow or better rock placement or better nutrient export to get rid of the food source. The nutrients the cyano is feeding off of. Cyano is pregistoric and part of the reason all life exists on earth. It's vertically everywhere on earth. Some of the oldest fossils on record are cyano bacteria. With that said it's pretty much always present but you need to keep it at bay with low nutrients. With that said there a several different strains of cyano and some are known to grow in water that is low in nitrates and po4 to combat these strains I have heard people having success by raising their alkalinity or magnesium to shock the environment and stimulate a die off in the cyano.

Good information thanks!

 

[Magem]

What are your nitrates and phosphate levels?


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[jjoos99]

Are you dosing any organic carbon source? If so, reduce the amount by 50% and see if it makes a difference.

If not, then I bet your nitrates are too low. I'd stop the GFO, feed a bit more and run GAC. Everything else maintain as you are. 3 weeks and you should see a difference.

FWIW Chemiclean doesnt always work. And sometimes can make way for worse stuff like Dinos to take hold.

Hows low nitrates cause red slime? I have been running biopellets and my water has appeared cleaner along with my glass but I have been seeing some patches of red slime here and there. I would like to nip it in the butt before it gets out of hand.
Thanks
Jeff

 

[seachange]

I use to have cyano for a while until I reduced my carbon dosing slightly and it went away. While I had it, I siphon out as much as I could. Did this a few times.


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[Geeray]

Hows low nitrates cause red slime? I have been running biopellets and my water has appeared cleaner along with my glass but I have been seeing some patches of red slime here and there. I would like to nip it in the butt before it gets out of hand.
Thanks
Jeff

Cyano shows up most often then there is a nutrient imbalance like 0 Nitrate with measurable phosphate while your carbon dosing.

 

[jjoos99]

Will red cyano also stain my rock work red or a dark burgundy? It doesnt blow off and seems attached somewhat like coraline. I did a treatment of chemiclean a year or so back and my rocks did seem to clean up.
thanks
jeff

 

[Guillo]

I didn't get Cyano on the tank I just set up around 7 months ago, but did get it on my last one in Texas. All I did to get rid of it was during a water change I sucked up all the red stuff, then cranked up the flow! never came back.

 

[Joey_bananas420]

Will red cyano also stain my rock work red or a dark burgundy? It doesnt blow off and seems attached somewhat like coraline. I did a treatment of chemiclean a year or so back and my rocks did seem to clean up.
thanks
jeff

If it doesn't blow off then it's not cyano. If it's cyano it will easily come off with little effort without staining your rock or sand.

 

[Molter]

If it doesn't blow off then it's not cyano. If it's cyano it will easily come off with little effort without staining your rock or sand.

This.
Cyano does not stain.

I always try using a pipet directly on a small area and squeezing hard to see if it will blow off.
Sometimes, putting it in an area with heavier flow won't do it.

What are your nitrate and phosphate levels?

 

[368]

Go get a tiger conch. It will be gone in no time. I'm a firm believer that every tank should have one.

 

[Joey_bananas420]

This.
Cyano does not stain.

I always try using a pipet directly on a small area and squeezing hard to see if it will blow off.
Sometimes, putting it in an area with heavier flow won't do it.

What are your nitrate and phosphate levels?

Nitrate is currently at about .05 maybe hard to tell 100% with salifert.
Phosphate undetectable

 

[Joey_bananas420]

Go get a tiger conch. It will be gone in no time. I'm a firm believer that every tank should have one.

Agreed if you have sand get a conch or two. They constantly turn my sand over but are neat about it unlike sand sifting gobies.