Rose Anemone Died by vortex!

[VGT]

lol so harsh lol

maybe unhealthy is not the correct term but if I was sitting in a chair, and its springs broke, making it uncomfy ... Id get up, and move to another chair ... I wouldnt fall off the chair and roll towards another chair

what I mean is ... a happy [due to lack of words lol ] anemone would walk to another location, rather than letting go of the rock, and hope current would take it to a suitable place. after all, one of the sights on a healthy anemone, is one that attaches its foot ! so one that doesnt attach its foot is .....

Anenomes don't have legs or eyes like you do, and might lose its grip while moving from one rock to the next like mine did last night. It was extraordinarily healthy, feeding well, great color and perfect bubbling. It just wanted a change in scenery, and lost its grip and met its demise overnight.

 

[Allmost]

Anenomes don't have legs or eyes like you do, and might lose its grip while moving from one rock to the next like mine did last night. It was extraordinarily healthy, feeding well, great color and perfect bubbling. It just wanted a change in scenery, and lost its grip and met its demise overnight.

Anemones do have feet

" It just wanted a change in scenery, and lost its grip and met its demise overnight."

are you saying your anemone has emotions ? lol

 

[VGT]

JC, I'm not in the mood for arguing with a five year old.

 

[Allmost]

Unfortunately, my GBTA met a similar demise last night. He had been moving around a bit during the day, looking extremely healthy (Great color, nicely bubbled, feeding well), and he seemed to settle toward the bottom of one of the rocks last night. Woke up to him inside pump's intake tube, really bummed about it.

Won't be trying another anemone until I have a tank with an overflow.

Hmm ! so you think your anemone, which HAS NOT settled in your tank, ran by CANISTER filter, is healthy ? lol !!
but good Idea waiting till you learn more and get an appropriate set up !
what makes you think your anemone wont get stuck in overflow box puzzles me still !

JC, I'm not in the mood for arguing with a five year old.

I would knock out the attitude, and not get involved in a friendly DISCUSSION if you do not have the knowledge nor want to learn !

FYI, I do not think anyone here wants to argue ... nor is here to argue !

and from your posts, the only immature poster here seems to be you but its okay, we all learn.

 

[ravenmore]

JC, I'm not in the mood for arguing with a five year old.

Who is JC and how do you know he's 5?

 

[Toddrtrex]

Anemones do have feet

" It just wanted a change in scenery, and lost its grip and met its demise overnight."

are you saying your anemone has emotions ? lol

Technically they don't. What is often referred to as the "foot" is actually called a pedal disc.

 

[Allmost]

Technically they don't. What is often referred to as the "foot" is actually called a pedal disc.

how does that change my point ?

and thanks I Cant edit, but I would have worded it differently as "Entacmaea quadricolors have Pedal Discs, which function as a foot"

 

[snorvich]

I vaguely recall that some powerheads have protection you can apply to reduce the probability of this. Does Vortech?

 

[VGT]

Hmm ! so you think your anemone, which HAS NOT settled in your tank, ran by CANISTER filter, is healthy ? lol !!
but good Idea waiting till you learn more and get an appropriate set up !
what makes you think your anemone wont get stuck in overflow box puzzles me still !

Yeah, that looks real unhealthy. Point me in the direction of some reliable information that a system run on canister filter couldn't support a reef. kthx. Also, seeing as how you can't grasp the point of reducing the risk, I'm not even going to address your overflow box quip.

I would knock out the attitude, and not get involved in a friendly DISCUSSION if you do not have the knowledge nor want to learn !

Fairly obvious I did have the knowledge, not that I'm going to take offense to someone that suggested the only reason an anemone will move is because its unhealthy. That's clearly a false statement, and shows a failure to comprehend even the most basic behavior of a BTA.

Cheers.

 

[Amoore311]

I vaguely recall that some powerheads have protection you can apply to reduce the probability of this. Does Vortech?

They do. They cut flow by a bit and get gunked up very easily as well. However, with anemones I would venture to say the added maintenance is worth it.



Edit:
That anemone above looks pretty darn healthy. Canister filters can be used just fine on a reef, it just depends on how you implement and maintain them.

 

[VGT]

Edit:
That anemone above looks pretty darn healthy. Canister filters can be used just fine on a reef, it just depends on how you implement and maintain them.

Its maintained very well, and there is more than the 1lb/gallon general recommendation of live rock/sand for biological filtration. Water chemistry is extremely stable. Looking at the direction it was moving, it seems like the lighting might have been too intense, and I could probably get another to be very happy. I don't want to risk killing another one just for my own sake, so I'll wait until I have a tank with equipment that is less likely to result in that outcome.

It's a shame, but I'll wait until I have a safer environment.

 

[Allmost]

Edit:
Canister filters can be used just fine on a reef, it just depends on how you implement and maintain them.

I agree ... I too have a couple on my other set ups ... but they need to be removed, and cleaned, 2 times a week, at least ! when you consider the fact that they sit lower than the level of the tank and are bound to collect detritus .

the anemone looks good. I wouldnt go as far as saying a bubbling anemone is for sure healthy ... and hey ... isnt a swimming anemone a jelly fish lol

 

[Allmost]

Its maintained very well, and there is more than the 1lb/gallon general recommendation of live rock/sand for biological filtration. Water chemistry is extremely stable. Looking at the direction it was moving, it seems like the lighting might have been too intense, and I could probably get another to be very happy. I don't want to risk killing another one just for my own sake, so I'll wait until I have a tank with equipment that is less likely to result in that outcome.

It's a shame, but I'll wait until I have a safer environment.

Im sure the less lighting has nothing to do

we can agree to disagree at this point though ...

 

[psteeleb]

welcome to the Num Num Nem club

many anemonies are known to move. when you mix these with power heads of any sort there is a high probability that one day the nem will walk and the power head will go num num

 

[VGT]

Im sure the less lighting has nothing to do

we can agree to disagree at this point though ...

:headwalls:

I'm not sure how many more times it needs to be explained to you, but this is the last time I'm going to. An anemone moving to find a location it finds more suitable does not mean its unhealthy. One that can't find a place and becomes bleached? Yes. Not a moving one. You can agree to whatever you like, but you're wrong. I'll agree to that.

 

[Allmost]

:headwalls:

I'm not sure how many more times it needs to be explained to you, but this is the last time I'm going to. An anemone moving to find a location it finds more suitable does not mean its unhealthy. One that can't find a place and becomes bleached? Yes. Not a moving one. You can agree to whatever you like, but you're wrong. I'll agree to that.

No actually

you are wrong, and you are very disrespectful not that I expected more from YOU !

Anemones, DO NOT get bored of scenery as you have WRONGLY posted here !

Anemones, Also DO NOT go for a SWIM !

not only you are wrong, you are also a bitter child, now I see the 5 year old comment was pointing to yourself !

At the end, you have an anemone, under NOT ENOUGH lighting, in a system ran by canister filters, if you think you should be talking ... then ... lol

learn how to have respect ! I See kids like you daily ...

 

[ravenmore]

No actually

you are wrong, and you are very disrespectful not that I expected more from YOU !

Anemones, DO NOT get bored of scenery as you have WRONGLY posted here !

Anemones, Also DO NOT go for a SWIM !

not only you are wrong, you are also a bitter child, now I see the 5 year old comment was pointing to yourself !

At the end, you have an anemone, under NOT ENOUGH lighting, in a system ran by canister filters, if you think you should be talking ... then ... lol

learn how to have respect ! I See kids like you daily ...

Geeze - the both of you need to take it down a notch. The amount of childishness is pretty equal from where I'm standing.

As far as the argument about whether or not healthy anemones move, the answer is one that applies to a lot of questions - it depends.

You've got a ton of variables. Some species move around a lot - even in the wild. Species that are live in tidal areas for example, have to move a lot. Some set up camp in a good spot and never move.

In my experience with reef tanks, bubble tips will move until they find a spot they like. They might move again if you change a variable - such as current or light. It also might move if a coral grows to where it encroaches on the anemone. Moving does not indicate an unhealthy animal. The ability to move is a survival adaptation ability of the animal.

Also, anemones don't need light to survive. They need food. The energy stores they receive from the symbiotic relationship with zooxanthella are short term sources such as sugars and carbohydrates. Long term resources for healing and growth has to come from predation, or in the case of our animals in our aquariums - being fed.

 

[Allmost]

As far as the argument about whether or not healthy anemones move, the answer is one that applies to a lot of questions - it depends.

I agree the argument is getting childish ... hence why I said lets agree to disagree .. but he felt the need to insult me and hence my reply

the argument, or discussion as I like to think of it, is about anemones LETTING GO OF THE ROCK they are on and going for a swim.

I clam that a healthy anemone, would use its feet to move, he is saying that a healthy anemone might want a change in scenery and would go for a swim, as a result of letting go of the rock he is in ... IMHO, and IME, a sign of a anemone being healthy, is sticky tenticles, and a functioning foot, which would hold on to a rock, and not let go .....


An anemone using its foot to move about the aquarium to find a suitable place is a known fact.

 

[VGT]

I said anemones will swim? News to me. As long as we're going to resort to making things up and/or lying, I think this one's run its course.

 

[Allmost]

Anenomes don't have legs or eyes like you do, and might lose its grip while moving from one rock to the next like mine did last night. It was extraordinarily healthy, feeding well, great color and perfect bubbling. It just wanted a change in scenery, and lost its grip and met its demise overnight.

:wave:

but I agree, lets not continue on this


could be communication problems .... I do not think a healthy anemone would loose its grip or stop holding on to the rock when healthy ... but moving about the rock is a known fact to all reefers.

you didnt say swim but letting go of the rock and letting current take you .. is swimming