Another overflow today creating a wet cabinet. Is there somewhere I can go to get some help with this? I am definately starting to regret this purchase! Any ideas or help would be appreciated. I am in 7 inches of water, nozzle three turns out, outlet tube almost fully open. This skimmer ran fine today, went out to dinner and came home to a overflow.
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Here are pictures from tonight after two overflows.
Any help is appreciated. I have unplugged it because it keeps overflowing. Today it ran fine, almost a little to dry. Everything I captured today is back in the tank because of the overflow. Today I did scrape a little algae and coraline algae off the back glass, but that should not make this overflow like it is.
Any help is appreciated. I have unplugged it because it keeps overflowing. Today it ran fine, almost a little to dry. Everything I captured today is back in the tank because of the overflow. Today I did scrape a little algae and coraline algae off the back glass, but that should not make this overflow like it is.
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When you mentioned that today it ran 'almost too dry' was that because you didn't like the color of the skimmate, or because nothing was collecting initially?
It almost sounds like you're trying to produce a specific product in the collection cup, and you adjusted settings to make it happen. It could be that you're running it too wet overall - as in, you start it up, and it takes a while to build back up a frothy head, and at that point you get an overflow. For a while at Premium we had an older BK and a newly-released cone running side-by-side on a coral system. They didn't produce the same skimmate, even though they sat in the same depth, in the same sump, in identical water. Maybe you're just aiming for an ideal that doesn't work in your system...
Try this: Adjust the entire setup to run dryer than you have. While you may not see immediate collection of a large quantity of tea-colored skimmate, that's not really the point of skimming. Skimming removes a set amount of organic matter from your water column. A slower-filling, darker-colored, dryer skimmate is just as effectively removing those compounds from your system, just without sacrificing any extra system water.
It almost sounds like you're trying to produce a specific product in the collection cup, and you adjusted settings to make it happen. It could be that you're running it too wet overall - as in, you start it up, and it takes a while to build back up a frothy head, and at that point you get an overflow. For a while at Premium we had an older BK and a newly-released cone running side-by-side on a coral system. They didn't produce the same skimmate, even though they sat in the same depth, in the same sump, in identical water. Maybe you're just aiming for an ideal that doesn't work in your system...
Try this: Adjust the entire setup to run dryer than you have. While you may not see immediate collection of a large quantity of tea-colored skimmate, that's not really the point of skimming. Skimming removes a set amount of organic matter from your water column. A slower-filling, darker-colored, dryer skimmate is just as effectively removing those compounds from your system, just without sacrificing any extra system water.
moondoggy4
Team RC
^^^^^^Do you have a back up skimmer? Can you remove the skimmer and run it in a spare tank? Then I would put skimmate in the remote sump so the skimmer breaks in.
MY main priority here is to keep it from overflowing. The only adustment I made (after the last overflow) is to turn the nozzle in (this seems to reduce the bubble level in the skimmer) and the wedge pipe is almost fully open. It ran dry today because the water level was lowered in the skimmer to keep it from overflowing. When I got home today from work it was fine, but when I got home from dinner it had overflowed. I did nothing to it and came home to an overflowing cup. I am not constantly messing with this this skimmer, just trying to keep it from overflowing. I have used many skimmers, but cannot figure out how to make this one consistent, or close to consistent. I had this set to run dry today so it would not overflow and tonight after dinner (without touching the skimmer) it overflowed again. I am looking for some help with this as I cannot keep it consistent. I do not care if it is dry or wet skim as long as it is not overflowing. This skimmer ran perfectly for 11 days in a row, and has been running since July 8th, so I would think it is "broken in".
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Klaus Jansen
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Hi GQuinn,
sorry, my english lenguage is horrible...
Okay, i look your second picture and i see very, very big bubbles in the foampipe. Thats not normal,.... i think your problem is more a chemical, as a mechanical problem. The RD-Motorblocks runing all the same speed, It´s impossible for runing with lower or higher speed. Synchrom Motorblocks are running very stable in her speed.
Maybe heavy up the skimmer one or two inches ?
We sell a lot of the DC-150 models and never heard about this problem. If the nozzle is surging, please opening the nozzle one or two turns. Surging has to do with to less waterintake.
Hope it helps.....
best regards .. Klaus
Ps.. next month we have a new employeer, where speak perfect your lenguage. He want make customerservice without my lenguagebarrier ;-)
sorry, my english lenguage is horrible...
Okay, i look your second picture and i see very, very big bubbles in the foampipe. Thats not normal,.... i think your problem is more a chemical, as a mechanical problem. The RD-Motorblocks runing all the same speed, It´s impossible for runing with lower or higher speed. Synchrom Motorblocks are running very stable in her speed.
Maybe heavy up the skimmer one or two inches ?
We sell a lot of the DC-150 models and never heard about this problem. If the nozzle is surging, please opening the nozzle one or two turns. Surging has to do with to less waterintake.
Hope it helps.....
best regards .. Klaus
Ps.. next month we have a new employeer, where speak perfect your lenguage. He want make customerservice without my lenguagebarrier ;-)
Klaus Jansen
.Registered Member
RD3 Speedy + BK-Double Cone 250
RD3 Speedy + BK-Double Cone 250
found this in youtube ... BK-Double Cones + RD3 Speedy Pumps in USA
best regards ... Klaus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOc7QXqNDqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSFDe4kxif8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjellPyaT2Q
RD3 Speedy + BK-Double Cone 250
found this in youtube ... BK-Double Cones + RD3 Speedy Pumps in USA
best regards ... Klaus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOc7QXqNDqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSFDe4kxif8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjellPyaT2Q
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powder_blue
New member
So I've had mine now for a week and I'm very pleased so far. I have it in 7in of water and have had the nozzle at 4 turns out. I have the water/air separation line about 2 in below where the cup screws on to the body and I am getting fairly dark tea colored skimmate. I'm not sure I completely understand how to dial the skimmer in as I have only had skimmers with one control which was just water level. It seems everyone says to run the water/air line just below where the neck screws onto the body but this doesn't seem possible with my skimmer at 4 turns out. Should I reduce the number of turns out and raise the water with the wedgepipe to skim a bit more dry?
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Laser Lammons
New member
looking for help in finding a spray nozzle type neck cleaner for my BK 400 int
If anyone knows whom to contact I would be greatly appreciative.
If anyone knows whom to contact I would be greatly appreciative.
Contact BK directly at their USA location: http://royalexclusiv.com/
GQuinn,
Did you ever get around to having this resolved?
I am having the exact same issue, I JUST installed the skimmer after having a skimmer stand built by Melves Reef. The pump is surging...
If I remove the white volute looking thing that screws into the inlet of the pump, the pump seems to function correctly but it is way too much flow...
The skimmer is in exactly 7" of water depth.
Someone, anyone!
-Mark
powder_blue
New member
I just went through this. It was something in my water. I let the skimmer run out about 10 gallons of water and it stopped. Mine is at 7" with 4 turns out and runs fine. Take your silencer apart and make sure the foam didn't get wet when it overflowed (mine did and cause problematic airflow)
powder_blue
New member
If it's a brand new skimmer you are going to have to give it a week or two of running wide open with the drain plug open. Make sure your wedge pipe is fully open and then once you get a nice foam head start to close it to make TINY adjustments. It will settle down and operate perfectly
I wished I could help you, but I am still having issues with this skimmer. Out of frustration and a lack of help from Royal Exclusiv, I quit using this skimmer after 3 months. A couple of months ago I decided to retry using it. With some help from Slief we decided to raise the skimmer to 6 3/4 inches and run the nozzle out 1 1/2 turns. This is the best it has run as far as getting rid of the spontaneous overflows. The problem with this there is alot of foam in the neck and body, and the skimmer air intake still fluctuates (surges) but if I open the nozzle more it overflows. Some day I hope to figure it out.
When you refer to the nozzle, is this the white piece on the inlet to the pump? If so, I had to back this out fairly far in order to stop the surging. Once I found a sweet spot, it stopped surging, but the water separation level is pretty low in the skimmer body.
If i leave the white nozzle screwed all the way in, the pump struggles big time. I've never seen an adjustment on the pump like this before....
The skimmer is new, so it has some breaking in to do and has not produced any stable foam after 24 hours.
I will keep you posted.
moondoggy4
Team RC
GQuin and Mark SF have you guys tried a Vertex pump from the 150 Omega?
No, my previous skimmer is the KZ Revolution S.
So far, I have dialed in this skimmer nicely. She is pulling a light green skimmate. No micro bubbles and it is insanely quiet...
Third notch from the left in exactly 7" water height. The white nozzle on the inlet of the pump is about 2-3 threads exposed, which is the only way I can describe this measurement.
-Mark
