SNAKEMANVET
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Sorry to hear you lost the blues and purple.Makes me leary about trying one. Good luck with the others hope they improve and become healthier.
Just to clarify, when you say "DOA" you don't mean that you're receiving more and they're Dead On Arrival, but rather that the ones you currently have are dying, correct?
If so, it leads me to believe that Cipro, while a proven method for typical gig ailments, will not help those that are cut. In other words, Cipro can help alleviate the internal infections, but cannot help ailments brought upon by injury. Is that your assumption as well?
Ok, did I miss something? Did you cut the gigs? How did they get cut? Did they come in with scaring?
Can I ask you why you're not QTing them individually? Especially given what you went through the last time?
We know that gigs ship poorly, and they can quite possibly get sick in transport over short distances. Mine stress spawned during an hour drive. Why not separate them into their own tanks to make sure that they're doing well, and then introduce them to the main tank when they appear to be ready?
Also, I know that others don't agree with me, but have you considered allelopathy when having so many gigs in one tank? We know that in nature they are not social creatures (in contrast to BTAs and Mags) where many are seen in close proximity. I've seen a few tanks with multiple gigs where one is doing really well -- long tentacle extension, good size -- while the others in the tank have shorter tentacles and smaller size (even if fed more than the larger one).
I'm wondering if by attempting to acclimate so many gigs in one tank that they are all getting stressed, more so than if they were to acclimate in their own tanks. I realize that there is a cost involved with setting up individual tanks, but this seems relatively low in terms of the overall cost of several dead gigs.
Can I ask you why you're not QTing them individually? Especially given what you went through the last time?
We know that gigs ship poorly, and they can quite possibly get sick in transport over short distances. Mine stress spawned during an hour drive. Why not separate them into their own tanks to make sure that they're doing well, and then introduce them to the main tank when they appear to be ready?
Also, I know that others don't agree with me, but have you considered allelopathy when having so many gigs in one tank? We know that in nature they are not social creatures (in contrast to BTAs and Mags) where many are seen in close proximity. I've seen a few tanks with multiple gigs where one is doing really well -- long tentacle extension, good size -- while the others in the tank have shorter tentacles and smaller size (even if fed more than the larger one).
I'm wondering if by attempting to acclimate so many gigs in one tank that they are all getting stressed, more so than if they were to acclimate in their own tanks. I realize that there is a cost involved with setting up individual tanks, but this seems relatively low in terms of the overall cost of several dead gigs.
I do see your point... I would have to gather 8 10 gallons along with 8 power heads and 8 heaters... At this point I'm going to let them be in the same system and see how it goes ... If need be I will QT them individually.
The reason that I am not QT with cipro is that I think the more cipro you use the more it can harm then treat them... I like to stick to 3 days maybe 5 days in a month ....
Just wondering when you treat with Cipro to the qt tank how many MG are you using per QT tank ? also how many gigs per QT tank ?
250 mg per 10 gallons... I would agree with dnak 1 gig/nem per tank but if space and equipment is the issue then 1-4 gigs per tank. Cipro I think would wipe out all pathogens regardless but again to be really sure 1 per tank... Hope that wasn't to confusing.
I do understand so you have 1 to 4 gigs per qt tank but only using 1 pill to treat 1 to 4 gigs makes me wonder if you should use maybe 2 pills or more since 1 pill will treat 1 gig . Hope you can understand what i am thinking
I really dont know i was just thinking that if a human was sick they would take a whole pill now if there was 3 people sick and to cut the pill 3 way it would take longer to work or would not work at all so if each person ( gig ) had its own pill it would work . sorry its just how my mind works not sure if it makes any senseIs it measured by water volume or pill to gig? I guess, we don't really know huh?
I really dont know i was just thinking that if a human was sick they would take a whole pill now if there was 3 people sick and to cut the pill 3 way it would take longer to work or would not work at all so if each person ( gig ) had its own pill it would work . sorry its just how my mind works not sure if it makes any sense