So what is known about Chloroquine Phosphate? Facts & documentation only Please.

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ReefCurrent2015

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I've heard about people using it here and there, but what do we really know about it? How long has this been used, and what documented results do we have available? Are people going off speculation from what they've heard from other reefers and friends, or do we really have established facts? I tend to stick with treatments that I know work. Three that come to mind are TTM, PraziPro, & Formalin MS. Those 3 haven't failed me yet. I don't mind change and love to learn about new information, so please educate me with the facts about Chloroquine Phosphate and how I should incorporate it with my current treatment protocol.

:reading::reading:
 
Primarily used as a treatment for velvet and crypto, although there is anecdotal evidence that it will treat brook and uronema. Pros are that it is easy to administer (usually once dose will suffice) and it is relatively gentle on most fish species. Cons are that it can be hard to source and there are no test kits for it. It is photosensitive, so ensuring that therapeutic levels are maintained can be problematic. It is a potent algecide, so it is definitely not a "reef safe" treatment. More info below:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388433

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2136214

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2013/2/fish

http://www.saltcorner.com/Articles/Showarticle.php?articleID=41
 
ca1ore said:
Then please do so! I require facts and documentation though, personal anecdotes will not suffice.
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I tend to agree which is why I use Marine biology rather than aquarist papers/articles. Peer reviewed gives me comfort, personal anecdotes do not.
 
There are plenty of books on disease and treatment methods and I believe all of them list CP. I know several aquariums that use CP
 
ca1ore said:
Then please do so! I require facts and documentation though, personal anecdotes will not suffice.
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Fact: I've never had a fish that's been treated with it show any parasitic signs.

Fact: All my fish in DT are clean till this day.

Fact: I have pictures to prove it with documentation.

:-)
 
ReefCurrent2015 said:
Really?

Why do you always recommend copper for velvet then?
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Because of the difficulty of acquiring CP compared to the ease of getting copper. If you have it on hand, CP is preferred for oodinium treatment. However I always prefer not using chemicals for prophylaxis, only for treatment.
 
ReefCurrent2015 said:
Quick question:

How do you think facts are established?
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In marine biology, not only are the articles peer reviewed but when causal relationships are established they are tested under controlled circumstances. However this board is not about describing the "scientific method". While my personal education and training includes that, I cannot begin to transfer that here. On the other hand everyone is free to ignore my recommendations and I will not in the least be offended. After all, "free advice" is worth what you pay for it. :fun2:
 
Two books I highly recommend are:

Fish Disease: Diagnosis and Treatment by Dr. Edward J Noga.

Captive Seawater Fishes: Science and Technology by Dr. Stephen Spotte

While not the easiest reading, they are both superb.

Both books are somewhat expensive but are well worth the money. Usually available used at a deep discount.
 
snorvich said:
Because of the difficulty of acquiring CP compared to the ease of getting copper. If you have it on hand, CP is preferred for oodinium treatment. However I always prefer not using chemicals for prophylaxis, only for treatment.
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Ahh, I got cha. So CP can only be ordered through a vet. They don't sell it online?

What kinda drugs is it made of?
 
CP is from the 4-aminoquinoline family of compounds - typically used as an anti-malarial. Since it is typically used in that manner, it's not generally available OTC.
 
snorvich said:
In marine biology, not only are the articles peer reviewed but when causal relationships are established they are tested under controlled circumstances. However this board is not about describing the "scientific method". While my personal education and training includes that, I cannot begin to transfer that here. On the other hand everyone is free to ignore my recommendations and I will not in the least be offended. After all, "free advice" is worth what you pay for it. :fun2:
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Exactly what are your creditinals?


:rolleye1::blown:
 
snorvich said:
Two books I highly recommend are:

Fish Disease: Diagnosis and Treatment by Dr. Edward J Noga.

Captive Seawater Fishes: Science and Technology by Dr. Stephen Spotte

While not the easiest reading, they are both superb.

Both books are somewhat expensive but are well worth the money. Usually available used at a deep discount.
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Might have to look into those.
 
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