143gadgets
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Same setup here.
Sonny's Rimless Shallow Reef.
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Same setup here.
SunnyX
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mcliffy2
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Sunny - I read that too and it is interesting, but if I recall I think KZ has some affiliation with aquascience? Also, according to Grim's tests, the AS Special has less PAR than the ATI AB special, and the AS 22k has much less PAR than the blue plus. Also, I actually like the AS Duo as a white bulb over the AS Special (it puts out more PAR, which is surprising since it is supposedly higher kelvin). One other thing to consider is that in those growth shots, some of the initial AS frags appear bigger, and flow can also make a big difference (the more tightly packed growth in the AS colonies could be indicative of higher flow). Not saying the study is without merit, but from a scientific standpoint I would not say its conclusive. Having tried the AS Special and AS Duo personally, I just don't like the special, and have switched to using ATI instead because I like the color better. I do like the AS Duo tho and will likely use them again. Like everything T5, give them a try yourself and see how you like them
The spectrum of the AS bulbs is better because of the 5-band phosphorus, instead of three. If that causes this increase in growth, I don't know...
Of course there are more aspects to take into account, like PAR and personal preferences for color.
Compare these spectrum graphs (hope you don't mind that I post them here, otherwise PM me):
ATI Blue+
Aqua-Science Blue (22000K)
ATI AquaBlue Sp (15000K)
Aqua Science Sp. (15000K)
Leonardo
Of course there are more aspects to take into account, like PAR and personal preferences for color.
Compare these spectrum graphs (hope you don't mind that I post them here, otherwise PM me):
ATI Blue+
Aqua-Science Blue (22000K)
ATI AquaBlue Sp (15000K)
Aqua Science Sp. (15000K)
Leonardo
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Sonny, I hope you don't mind me posting this. I'ld like to get yours and others thoughts or suggestions.
While reading through some of the SPS threads I started noticeing not many if any of you guys are running a refugium. Currently, I'm running a fuge with cheatomorpha/macro algae and having great growth{cheatomorpha/macro algae}.
My SPS will not color up like most tanks I've seen on RC.
I'm running an oversized skimmer{Octopus Dual 250 Recirculating}. Also useing filter socks.
Wondering if I'm removing to much and its not allowing the SPS to color up, thoughts?
So my question is. Why are you not running a fuge?
My readings
Ca. 44o
Ph. 8.01
Mg. 1450 ish
Dkh. 10
Rick
While reading through some of the SPS threads I started noticeing not many if any of you guys are running a refugium. Currently, I'm running a fuge with cheatomorpha/macro algae and having great growth{cheatomorpha/macro algae}.
My SPS will not color up like most tanks I've seen on RC.
I'm running an oversized skimmer{Octopus Dual 250 Recirculating}. Also useing filter socks.
Wondering if I'm removing to much and its not allowing the SPS to color up, thoughts?
So my question is. Why are you not running a fuge?
My readings
Ca. 44o
Ph. 8.01
Mg. 1450 ish
Dkh. 10
Rick
SunnyX
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14968598#post14968598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
Sunny - I read that too and it is interesting, but if I recall I think KZ has some affiliation with aquascience? Also, according to Grim's tests, the AS Special has less PAR than the ATI AB special, and the AS 22k has much less PAR than the blue plus. Also, I actually like the AS Duo as a white bulb over the AS Special (it puts out more PAR, which is surprising since it is supposedly higher kelvin). One other thing to consider is that in those growth shots, some of the initial AS frags appear bigger, and flow can also make a big difference (the more tightly packed growth in the AS colonies could be indicative of higher flow). Not saying the study is without merit, but from a scientific standpoint I would not say its conclusive. Having tried the AS Special and AS Duo personally, I just don't like the special, and have switched to using ATI instead because I like the color better. I do like the AS Duo tho and will likely use them again. Like everything T5, give them a try yourself and see how you like them
KZ also did a test HERE
When I picked up an Aquascience 22k recently I really liked it. It looked similar to the Blue+ but it looked brighter and gave my corals a nice "POP".
SunnyX
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14968598#post14968598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
Sunny - I read that too and it is interesting, but if I recall I think KZ has some affiliation with aquascience? Also, according to Grim's tests, the AS Special has less PAR than the ATI AB special, and the AS 22k has much less PAR than the blue plus. Also, I actually like the AS Duo as a white bulb over the AS Special (it puts out more PAR, which is surprising since it is supposedly higher kelvin). One other thing to consider is that in those growth shots, some of the initial AS frags appear bigger, and flow can also make a big difference (the more tightly packed growth in the AS colonies could be indicative of higher flow). Not saying the study is without merit, but from a scientific standpoint I would not say its conclusive. Having tried the AS Special and AS Duo personally, I just don't like the special, and have switched to using ATI instead because I like the color better. I do like the AS Duo tho and will likely use them again. Like everything T5, give them a try yourself and see how you like them
Concerning the PAR, they are not that much off when comparing the numbers. If the added spectrum of the Aquascience can aid in coral growth and coloration then I am all for it. :thumbsup:
Aquascience
Special 15K 320*
DUO 15K 334*
22000K Blue 302*
ATI
Sun Pro 357
Aquablue 336
Blue Plus 311
Actinic 137
(Old Style)
Pro Color 215 vs 300 for a UVL Aquasun in a later test
Source: http://tfivetesting.googlepages.com/par
SunnyX
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14968620#post14968620 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Leonardo_
The spectrum of the AS bulbs is better because of the 5-band phosphorus, instead of three. If that causes this increase in growth, I don't know...
Of course there are more aspects to take into account, like PAR and personal preferences for color.
Compare these spectrum graphs (hope you don't mind that I post them here, otherwise PM me):
ATI Blue+
Aqua-Science Blue (22000K)
ATI AquaBlue Sp (15000K)
Aqua Science Sp. (15000K)
Leonardo
Thank you for the graphs Leonardo. I have always been interest in changing lighting spectrum's in order to increase color and growth. I wonder if the Aquascience's will bring out different colors than I already have. hmmmmm.....
SunnyX
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Running a refugium is fine and recommended. The benefits are great and the clippings make good food for the tangs.
I don't run a refugium because it wont grow in my setup. The bacteria is so dominate that it doesn't allow anything else to compete with it. I tried running a fuge in my old tank and it worked good for a while. When I started dosing bacteria into the system the algae stopped growing and eventually turned white. Concerning you SPS coloration, are you currently running carbon?
How often are you conducting water changes?
Refugium plants will add yellowing compounds, Phenols, which can drastically reduce the amount of light reaching you corals.
Oh, and please feel free to ask ANYTHING you would like here.
Sonny
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Is that carib special grade sand that you use white? Or is it like a tan color?
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