The "Hitchhiker's Guide" to the Maxi-Stream mod

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Well I read half way through this thread and built a test unit out of a MJ1200 I had. I couldn't wait and read the whole thread to try it. I went to a Hobbytown and got 2 props. The only 2 they had so I tried to drill them out and they didn't have much meat left when I was done but I did manage to get them glued on. I also used white PVC but will make my keepers out of grey conduit pipe. I used some rigid tubing I already had which is supposed to be the right size, 3/16 od. I think the .098 rod we are using is a bit small for the rigid tube. It is a bit loose on the shaft. Is this what you guys have experienced? Anyway I put it at the top of my 180 on one end and plugged it in and.....................WOW! It was awesome! It had hard flow all the way around the tank. My xenias were all pointing in one direction. I am going to order 2 MJ 900s and modify them and use the hammer props.

I still wonder about the loosness of the rigid tubing on the shaft. The one I made didn't have much vibration but it hit the cross member a few times while I tested it out. I had it pointing downward which shouldn't have bothered it due to the force of the propeller pushing it backward so I'm not sure why it was hitting but I know I want to build 2 of them and use a wave maker or timer on them.
 
I just tried it again and ran it for 10 minutes and the prop hit the crossbar about 3 times. I think I didn't leave enough room between the prop and cross bar. It's only about 1/4" away. I'll make sure there is about 3/4" on the next ones I make.
 
Hey everyone...
Hey, I just placed an order for the Nitro 1.25inch props... and carbon rod and glue

I am going to do this mod on one of my MJ1200's

now I have another question:
I see where you did something to stop the propeller, but I wonder why or what for?

I want to put the MODed MJ on a wavemaker but I worry about when it kicks back on if it will reverse the flow...

how do I prevent this??? I think I see what you did, but I cant really tell

Instead of useing that Acylic as a crossbrace, could I use Ridgid airline?


I will be doing a duel propeller setup on the MJ1200's

also, Can I use ABS BLK pvc???
I need 1.5inch for this mod dont I?
thanks so far!
 
Just thought I'd mention something that happened.. We had our power go out at around 3 pm today... At around 5 we decided to go out and pickup some dinner and go to my sisters to eat. While we where there we checked and our power was back on so after an hour we went home. When I got home I noticed there wasn't any flow coming from the MJ Stream. Doh I thought it got fried.. so I unplugged and replugged it in and nothing.. stuck my fingers in the front and moved the props a little and tried to plug it in again and still nothing.. so I removed the PH and took it to the sink for a cleaning... everything looked fine and the prop wasn't wedged or stuck... I cleaned it all out and did a dry test and nothing but a twitch... so I moved the prop again and tried again and varooomm it started back up. I really thought it had burned up sitting there plugged in and not spinning for that hour.. but these suckers are tuff little pumps. :)
 
Mine did a similar thing the other day. I wiggled it a little with my finger and it took off. Kind of strange but it hasn't happened again.
 
I just got one of my mj900's going-......WOW! This thing kicks butt!I did the dual nitro props and it is awsome flow. I think once I get my other one done that it will be perfect in my 150.( maybe even too much):)
Awsome mod!:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6619215#post6619215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shawnts106
Hey everyone...

Hey, I just placed an order for the Nitro 1.25inch props... and carbon rod and glue

I am going to do this mod on one of my MJ1200's

now I have another question:
I see where you did something to stop the propeller, but I wonder why or what for?

I want to put the MODed MJ on a wavemaker but I worry about when it kicks back on if it will reverse the flow...

how do I prevent this??? I think I see what you did, but I cant really tell

Instead of useing that Acylic as a crossbrace, could I use Ridgid airline?


I will be doing a duel propeller setup on the MJ1200's

also, Can I use ABS BLK pvc???
I need 1.5inch for this mod dont I?
thanks so far!


You kinda answered your own question on this one regarding the reverse spinning. :)
That's why there is a stopper there so that the prop when spinning the wrong way will pull out and hit it , stop, and right itself.

Yes you can use the rigid tubing for a cross brace, in fact my very first version of this mod used the rigid tubing. But you will need to be creative and figure out how to make a stopper using a rigid tube.

You can use ABS pipes to do the housing and I think several people here have done it using ABS too. ABS is a bit trickier to cut though as it melts very easily.

D.
 
I wonder if there is like a dead spot or neutral zone. very slight but if the prop stops in just that spot, there is equal force pulling, pushing the prop so that it just sits there. I've been running mine solid now for 2 weeks and its never done this... so its probably rare that it does this.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6620069#post6620069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSerg2
Mine did a similar thing the other day. I wiggled it a little with my finger and it took off. Kind of strange but it hasn't happened again.
 
I made my own mod last weekend using a 1200 and 1 nitro prop (1.25" with 1.5" PVC). I planned on using dual nitros, but broke one. Anyway, I have a few comments and questions.

I made the mod almost exactly like dhnguyen's latest version. I tested it right next to a Seio 1100 I had in the tank so I could put my hand in front of the maxi, then the Seio so I could directly compare the feel. The mod had a little less then the 1100. I then took off the guard I made and run it with just the bare prop. The flow was more than the 1100 and felt like the Seio 1500 I had in my other tank, if not stronger.

So, I figured my intake slots were not big enough or had enough of them. So for testing purposes, I cut out all the slots which left two BIG areas cut out. This should let in all the water the prop needs. Well, not much more flow was achieved. The guard still cut back quite a bit of flow. The cross brace I used also seemed to create a void in the flow pattern. I dremeled it down so it was very skinny, and it still disturbed the flow a little.

One other thing I was wondering was the length between the end of the prop and the end of the guard. I had about 3/4". From all my testing, Im wondering if there should be less space between the prop and end of the guard. Im thinking the less you have, the better and the extra length disturbes the flow pattern.

So, Im curious as to the design of the guard. I think the crucial part of the mod is the guard design. In my testing, the guard effects the flow greatly. Also, the pump had a lot of problems restarting on its own. I had to manually pull on the impellar to get it to spin. I paid close detail to haveing the impellar magnet assembly and prop aligned up and spinning freely on the carbon rod as well as lining up the hole on the cross brace. The pump had zero vibration or noise. However, it didnt like being restarted which was a major downpoint.
 
Initially I had this problem, but after working the prop mod up and down on the rod a bit I could feel it move more freely... Not sure if I got something on the rod or what, but since then it hasn't had a problem other then with the power outtage.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6621822#post6621822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ball
Also, the pump had a lot of problems restarting on its own. I had to manually pull on the impellar to get it to spin. I paid close detail to haveing the impellar magnet assembly and prop aligned up and spinning freely on the carbon rod as well as lining up the hole on the cross brace. The pump had zero vibration or noise. However, it didnt like being restarted which was a major downpoint.
 
I have a couple test caps that I bought and never used. I would be willing to throw them in an envelope and send them to anyone who wants them...free of charge.

Please, only people who haved LOOKED in their local stores and could not find them...not people who are trying to save $0.19.

I would also prefer to send these to different people (1 cap each), just so more people who cant find them can get their hands on them...but if I dont get many responses I will send what I have to whoever asks...
 
I found that the carbon fiber rod was a little out of round so all I did to fix that was chucked it in my drill and used some sand paper to even it out while the drill was spinning the rod. That made the rod perfectly smooth and I could fine tune the thickness to fit my magnet assembly. After that everything turned much easier and cleaner.
 
I got my other mj900 done today. I decided to only use one prop on this one because frankly I don't need anymore flow. I'm amazed at what these things do.:D Thanks to all who invested time and money in R+D for this mod. It is simply awesome!:)
 
anyone compair this two prop mod to the one made by the other reefers out of one peice.. he sells as a kit? difference?
 
I don't have his mod to compare. His one piece prop assembly looks a bit crude from the picture I saw so I wonder whether it will generate as much flow as say 2 boat propellers which have already been designed with the proper pitch and width in mind. Not saying that it's not possible to make it into one piece, it's just would be much more difficult to do.
Heck even Tunze and Vortech use third party propellers in their pumps.

IMO why reinvent the wheel?! :D


D.
 
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