This is an example of why I don't keep tangs

650-IS350

650-IS350

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Not my video, but I've seen enough vids, read from other folks and their expiences of why I don't keep polyps and tangs together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxLwTiCd_k

I think it's the same with butterflys and anemones and triggers with SPS etc.. etc.

One tang I might trust more than any other is the yellow as its more vegitarian then most but they're still Ich magnets IMO. just my .02
 
you can search online and you'll see other folks out there.. also with Zoanthid eating Ampipods. A long time ago I brought this up and people thought I was crazy, but I was proven right down the line.
 
^And just when I was starting to feel stalked......I know I havnt posted in a while, but....J/K.


Not stalking, just havnt had the chance to post in a long time, and I had some time tonight, for the first time in a long while...

Just adding my input. (which seems to agree with alot of the things you posted recently)

Glad to see ya hanging tough in the zoanthid forum, 650! I will be back soon enough.......michigan summer is close to being over.....

Good post, by the way. (still not stalking.....)
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15447666#post15447666 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 650-IS350
you can search online and you'll see other folks out there.. also with Zoanthid eating Ampipods. A long time ago I brought this up and people thought I was crazy, but I was proven right down the line.
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I remember that and agreed with you and people said that it was a crazy idea.
That started my seach for a multi purpose wrasse that would eat not just the amphipods but also the nudibranchs.


My first nice zoanthid colony was eagle eyes. It was a center piece in my tank and I came home one day to see my hippo tang finishing the colony off.
 
LOL, Pat, just messing with yeah. Since I haven't seen you post in a while.

Yeah, I remember that Mfinn. Funny how now it comes to light and folks all over the place are finally seeing it. You look at different forums, online talk etc... How's your ampipod issue ?

It was like Colombus and folks said he was crazy when he mentioned the earth was round. LOL

But feels good to employ a bunch of wrasses that control the issue. heck I even have 1 small 6line in my 20 gal frag/QT tank that controls the ampipods there.
 
My best control agent ( wrasse) turned out to be a green coris wrasse.
Completely eliminated all the amphipods and nudi's, but got too agressive hunting them when the population went down.
He would turn over every single small rock he could, even though I feed him twice daily. A real pitbull of a fish.

It was the same with the tang issue.
People thought the tangs would be poisoned by eating zoanthids.
But I knew that wasn't the case, then, because I had witnessed it myself.
 
When they do get larger Green coris and yellow can show tendancy of rock turning to get crustaceans hiding. which makes them IMO the most fomidable pod hunters. But that's when they get really large when they start turning rocks over.
 
I have a orange fin tomini, blue hippo, achilies, red sea sailfin, gold rim and they all seem to stay away. I think the trick is to feed algae sheets when you get home from work than feed at night. Feeding is the key.
 
What do I know, I got zoapox three weeks ago and they didn't fully go away after the FuranII dip. I really live by the rule "Survival of the fittest" and go with it. I think animals have a way of cycling and I got caught in one of those cycles. Oh well, zoas rock but gotta have fish too.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15450135#post15450135 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jreeceaspen
Feeding is the key.
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You would think that this would be the answer, but it's not.

Tangs graze all day. That's all they do. Even if they had a never ending supply of nori, they would still graze in your tank. When they are confined to such a small space they graze over the area they have. And in that area are zoanthids.
Once they take a nip off a polyp and it doesn't bite back, they see it as a food source and maybe not at that moment, but eventually most tangs will go back.

They can be model citizens for years, but for some reason many turn into polyp eaters.

If yours haven't started, you are very lucky and I hope for your continued success.
 
my kole never touched anything and my marshall island kole mimic is very well behaved when it comes to polyps. I've never kept any other tangs besides the ones mentioned above.
 
I've heard the kole tang can be a good citizen around zoanthids, but it's like all marine fish. You never know when they will suddenly become polyp eaters untill it's too late.
My first experince with hippo tangs eating my zoanthids didn't happen until I'd had the tangs in my tank for 3-4 years.
 
This is the same insatnce like the zoanthid eating ampipod issue. People don't believe or don't want to think it WILL happen till more and more occurances happen that it becomes the norm or it happens to them. IMO I believe this is the case.
 
I have a 6" Sailfin, 2 4" Blue tangs, a 5" Yellow tang, a 5" Purple tang, and a 3" Powder Brown in my 180g with multiple zoanthid colonies and they have never touched them. Also I have never got ich. Maybe i'm just lucky.
 
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