This Kills AEFW eggs!!!!

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Please fallow the instructions on the bottle. We are sorry for the loss, the bottle label states,,,,,Thoroughly rinse coral with clean saltwater and return to quarantine tank.
 
Please fallow the instructions on the bottle. We are sorry for the loss, the bottle label states,,,,,Thoroughly rinse coral with clean saltwater and return to quarantine tank.

I was not blaming the product. The instructions do clearly state to thoroughly rinse before returning to the tank. My point was that even after rinsing more/longer than I usually do when using Coral Rx, there was apparently still some left over residue. I was just trying to let others know from my experience that one really needs to rinse a lot, and that the product does seem to be very potent. Potency being a good thing when dealing with the pests.

The instructions are a bit unclear though in that, is it recommended that even after thoroughly rinsing, the coral should not be placed back into the DT, but rather a quarantine tank? Obviously utilizing a quarantine tank would be ideal regardless, but since I do not have one, should I not use the product?
 
Well, I just tried RPS All out for a minor infestation of red bugs.

My advice, be careful, it's definitely quite toxic to amphipods! After a 15 min dip of about 20 small frags at the concentration specified in the directions, I rinsed the frags for several min. in fresh ASW, then put them back into the main tank. Within a few minutes, I noticed amphipods crawling on rocks in the open and swimming in the water (i.e., strange behaviors). I stated doing a 25% water change at that point. I then notice my small acro crab dead (he was on a larger coral that was not dipped). Then, it was clear my cleaner shrimp was near death, so I've pulled him out into some fresh ASW, but it's not clear if he is going to make it.

Unfortunately, I don't have any carbon on hand to run (but RPS does recommend running carbon on main tank after returning treated corals, which is something you definitely want to do).

There could have only been a trace amount of RPS All Out that got carried in the DT, but it is clear it that it is extremely toxic to members of Amphipoda.

how small is the main tank ?
 
perhaps the product (while in solution) is taken up into corals' tissue and thus not easily rinsed off-- returning to DT with tissues full of poison then osmotically release the poison back into water as they "relax" upon return to DT... perhaps a stint in the QT will "flush" the corals clean of the poison and then return to DT? a thought...
 
at this point I do not think it will do anything to eggs anymore.

IF I invented antigravity, I would post a video showing me flying around ....
if I CLAIMED that I invented antigravity and didnt fly, be sure that I lied.

the makers of the product are following here,and yet have shown no proof of it working, so .... the price has also increased now, showing perhaps they are trying to get as much as possible out of the market while it lasts ?
 
at this point I do not think it will do anything to eggs anymore.

IF I invented antigravity, I would post a video showing me flying around ....
if I CLAIMED that I invented antigravity and didnt fly, be sure that I lied.

the makers of the product are following here,and yet have shown no proof of it working, so .... the price has also increased now, showing perhaps they are trying to get as much as possible out of the market while it lasts ?

i was very excited to see that youtube link posted.. then i clicked and thought... huh.. what a good way to totally loose your credibility instantly.. i actually clicked it twice thinking that somehow i was taken to the wrong video...
 
at this point I do not think it will do anything to eggs anymore.

IF I invented antigravity, I would post a video showing me flying around ....
if I CLAIMED that I invented antigravity and didnt fly, be sure that I lied.

the makers of the product are following here,and yet have shown no proof of it working, so .... the price has also increased now, showing perhaps they are trying to get as much as possible out of the market while it lasts ?

Hmmmm i know another product like that :) then changed the label LOL just saying :)
 
Hmmmm i know another product like that :) then changed the label LOL just saying :)

well then you really arent reading :)

not gonna repeat myself about Kz's flatworm stop.

they said it will help corals, fight off Flatworms.

they showed proof as well. check out Alexander Gs tank ;) he has AEFW as well, yet no other reef comes close to his !

but of course, not every one is successful in reef keeping.

I have the original flatworm, and the label sais nothing like you like to assume it did ;)

BEFORE the product hit the market, this is what thomas pohl told us :


the product is not a medication. In my test we have no problem with any corals ore Fish but we have now the best corals we ever had. My Testing time now is more than 12 month to get the product ready and good for a shelf life of 12 month.
We have only a small Quantity now on stock of 150L, we wait the ingredients to work on a good stock, i think we can ship to every dealer in 3-4 weeks.

Here is some text from our page:

Product Description

Flatworm Stop

Right now we have an effective help against tissue eating flatworms on Acropora and for ailing SPS.

Flatworm Stop strengthens all kind of corals and reduces parasitical flatworms on Acropora corals at the same time. Very valuable ingredients are assimilated directly after dosage. In our tests also ailing small polyp stony corals recovered and rebuilt the basis as well as gained back the original coloration.

Dosage: 1 ml per 100 Liter tank water daily. Dose directly into the tank. For ailing corals dosage can be increased to double or triple,

About Overdosing: I dose the last 2 weeks in my Tank, Regina's Tank and in our large Reeftank daily 30ml once per day with very good results on corals.
In that time i dose the other products by half quantity than normal.

To the end a tip for all that have Flatworms. Please dose not brown organic Jod, take only a small quantity of Kaliumjodit to hold a good color on sps, it is the better way to get a free Flatworm Tank.

I hope now you know all a little more about that product.


Th.Pohl

Date : 01-18-2012



what does the above tell you ? please read it carefully and tell me what you understand from it. if you think the above sais its a medication when it starts with saying its not, then its not the products fault is it ?
 
Time to move on guys. It's just like an old tape which keep playing over and over again :). Let's hear more about RPS All Out with who actually use it. I don't have RB, AEFW, or nudis but I did try it on one of my frag. It killed all the critters almost instantly with recommended dosage. I hope it will do the same to RB, AEFW, and nudibranchs as advertised.
 
Time to move on guys. It's just like an old tape which keep playing over and over again :). Let's hear more about RPS All Out with who actually use it. I don't have RB, AEFW, or nudis but I did try it on one of my frag. It killed all the critters almost instantly with recommended dosage. I hope it will do the same to RB, AEFW, and nudibranchs as advertised.

My only real point was that when it comes to products like this, why are the consumers the beta testers? if it does not do what they claim then we are just being duped.
 
How poisonous is the dip to people and animals? Are there warnings on the container on handling and disposing of the water and container? Are you guys using gloves and eye protection?
 
Well, RPS does have some info on youtube here
https://www.youtube.com/user/reefpestsolutions/videos?flow=grid&view=0
But the vids are on monti's and nudibranchs
(i don't know why they posted the dragon thing).

@Allmost: My tank is only about 50 gal total liq.

I do agree that All Out may diffuse into the coral flesh and CaCO3 skeleton. If so, then it would take time for the active compound to diffuse out. A "rinse" would not be sufficient. So, you should leave the coral in the fresh ASW for as long or longer then it was in the All Out, it you don't have a quarantine tank. I suppose you could run carbon on the rinse water as well.
 
When I did mine. I did it during a water change. I rinsed all my corals in about 2.5 gallons of water and left them there while I started dipping the next batched. I then "swished" them around before putting them back in, and swapped out the water after a few rinses. A little overkill but I had the water on hand. I didn't run into any issues with it causing damage to my tank. On another note. So far when I baste no flatworms so far (still way to early to tell of course).
 
well then you really arent reading :)

not gonna repeat myself about Kz's flatworm stop.

they said it will help corals, fight off Flatworms.

they showed proof as well. check out Alexander Gs tank ;) he has AEFW as well, yet no other reef comes close to his !

but of course, not every one is successful in reef keeping.

I have the original flatworm, and the label sais nothing like you like to assume it did ;)

BEFORE the product hit the market, this is what thomas pohl told us :


the product is not a medication. In my test we have no problem with any corals ore Fish but we have now the best corals we ever had. My Testing time now is more than 12 month to get the product ready and good for a shelf life of 12 month.
We have only a small Quantity now on stock of 150L, we wait the ingredients to work on a good stock, i think we can ship to every dealer in 3-4 weeks.

Here is some text from our page:

Product Description

Flatworm Stop

Right now we have an effective help against tissue eating flatworms on Acropora and for ailing SPS.

Flatworm Stop strengthens all kind of corals and reduces parasitical flatworms on Acropora corals at the same time. Very valuable ingredients are assimilated directly after dosage. In our tests also ailing small polyp stony corals recovered and rebuilt the basis as well as gained back the original coloration.

Dosage: 1 ml per 100 Liter tank water daily. Dose directly into the tank. For ailing corals dosage can be increased to double or triple,

About Overdosing: I dose the last 2 weeks in my Tank, Regina's Tank and in our large Reeftank daily 30ml once per day with very good results on corals.
In that time i dose the other products by half quantity than normal.

To the end a tip for all that have Flatworms. Please dose not brown organic Jod, take only a small quantity of Kaliumjodit to hold a good color on sps, it is the better way to get a free Flatworm Tank.

I hope now you know all a little more about that product.


Th.Pohl

Date : 01-18-2012



what does the above tell you ? please read it carefully and tell me what you understand from it. if you think the above sais its a medication when it starts with saying its not, then its not the products fault is it ?

WOW i didnt read any of that on the bottle he mas-produced here in the states. All it said was helps rid AEFW. I must have missed that whole paragraph on the bottle i bought from my LFS. Anyway im hoping this does what it says it supposed to do and not a gimmick to make money on the public which some other product did. If it does what it says it is a miracle. I can deal with a week of QT. It would be amazing
 
Oh and by the way this is my tank before my nasty bacterial infection after Sandy so i know a little on how to care for SPS. But thanks for trying to put me down :) No need to get nasty over a aquarium product :) And i didnt say the product didnt help aid my corals from AEFW all i said is it didnt do what it said on the label. What rid my tank of AEFW was constant dipping ,basting and adding wrasses to my system. If this product kills the eggs,rids the AEFW and lowers the amount of time in QT its a homerun. If it just aids the corals its a strikeout
 
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I'm think we're wondering if you guys have tried your own product against aefw eggs and show proof it kills them. And why jack up the price of your product soon after release
 
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