Tyree SPS corals

[myzislow]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593850#post12593850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
I found the 175 special.. not tyrees, assorted sps and nice.. but not tyrees

well, it says assorted SPS of their choice so who's to say they don't throw in a couple pieces of tyree or tubs seriatopora along with some other random pieces? Seems more of "grab bag" type thing; which is pretty cool if they do include some nicer pieces along with some commons.

 

[shred5]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593850#post12593850 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
I found the 175 special.. not tyrees, assorted sps and nice.. but not tyrees

considering the packs I looked at on thier site say assorted corals of thier choice it could very well include a tyree coral or two...

Dave

 

[snorvich]

There are lots of "named" corals out there. Whether they have value to YOU depends on your perspective. I only purchase aquacultured corals for various reasons. I buy corals based on their coloration not their name. In some cases that means I pay more. But Steve Tyree is not alone in doing this, ORA and many others do it as well.

 

[gskidmor]

I don't think naming them either is a bad thing - when someone says oregon tort or the 30,000 leagues lokani, most people interested in SPS know just what you're talking about and it's a lot easier than having to learn/figure out their scientific names.

 

[Semper Fi 1959]

hey, i didnt mean to start a fight here...sounds like its getting hostile. lol the only reason i brought this thread up was BECAUSE i dont know about names. the only reason i say the stuff was 'tyree' was because that was what the named list stated when i got my shipment. they didnt name all 20, just some.

heres what they say i got, which in reality may not be true. but in MY mind, I got a nice 20 pack of sps frags for a pretty good price. tyree or not.

Tyree Ponape
Paletta Baby Blue
YR Vermiculata? (dont know what YR or Vermiculata means)
CA Tort
Surf and Turf
Tyree Baby Blue
YR Green Table
Bali Green Slimer
YR Blue Selago
Green Pavona
Orange Pavona
Tubs Neon Green Birdsnest
Tyree Birdsnest
C-Quarium (unknown)

again, im not big on naming, could care less. I care about $$...for $8.75 you could call it BOBS SPS and I'd buy it.

I'll take some pics of the frags I got and YOU tell me what i received. either way, im happy!

 

[lReef_lKeeper]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596086#post12596086 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gskidmor
I don't think naming them either is a bad thing - when someone says oregon tort or the 30,000 leagues lokani, most people interested in SPS know just what you're talking about and it's a lot easier than having to learn/figure out their scientific names.

i agree, it makes it a ton easier, but i try to know the scientific name of them too.

i have about 10-15 Tyree corals ... you get what you pay for is the way i look at it, on this subject. most of his corals have a very bright color to them, and are very healthy, IME.

 

[flyyyguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596215#post12596215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Semper Fi 1959
hey, i didnt mean to start a fight here...sounds like its getting hostile. lol the only reason i brought this thread up was BECAUSE i dont know about names. the only reason i say the stuff was 'tyree' was because that was what the named list stated when i got my shipment. they didnt name all 20, just some.

heres what they say i got, which in reality may not be true. but in MY mind, I got a nice 20 pack of sps frags for a pretty good price. tyree or not.

Tyree Ponape
Paletta Baby Blue
YR Vermiculata? (dont know what YR or Vermiculata means)
CA Tort
Surf and Turf
Tyree Baby Blue
YR Green Table
Bali Green Slimer
YR Blue Selago
Green Pavona
Orange Pavona
Tubs Neon Green Birdsnest
Tyree Birdsnest
C-Quarium (unknown)

again, im not big on naming, could care less. I care about $$...for $8.75 you could call it BOBS SPS and I'd buy it.

I'll take some pics of the frags I got and YOU tell me what i received. either way, im happy!

I always get akick out of the naming threads getting peoples panties in a bunch. Buy wha t you like, and like wha t you buy and dont worry about it is wha t i say.

pics would be grea t just for curiosity sakes. sounds like a screamin deal hi gh ends or no t....if all of those corals really did come in th t you lis ted for $175 its a INCREDIBLE deal and one heck of a way to s tart s tocking a sps tank. a bunch of very nice stuff that most of us paid many times that for many of those listed

Does anyone know if there is another tyree seriotopa besides the ponape?? Im curious what it(they) are if there are some.

 

[lReef_lKeeper]

i would say that the YR is "your reef" named by the site yo ugot them from. and Vermiculata is the species name of the coral.

Bill, wish i could help ... not birdsnest kinda guy though.

 

[DrDNA]

yep, the YR is for "your reef", the name of the store. the owner has been in the hobby a long time and has a top notch operation for collector corals. fortunately, he's one of our local shops here where I have spent way too much money

 

[poknsnok]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12594112#post12594112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shred5
considering the packs I looked at on thier site say assorted corals of thier choice it could very well include a tyree coral or two...

Dave

quite possibly but they have a whole collectors section where the sell the LE stuff at more the "market prices".. I dont see any hostility .. but as tempted as I get at some of these beautiful corals Id find it hard to pay 100.00 plus for a 1/4" frag...

check this out. I want a piece bad but 150.00 for 1/4" ?? cant do it..

http://www.pacificeastaquaculture.c...=/ShowProductCategory.aspx?CategoryId=83#T5-7

 

[apex003]

From the dynamicecomorphology page:

"During the summer of 2004, Steve stop selling imported corals completely and has only sold captive grown or farmed coral through Reeffarmers"

I don't really have an issue with the naming, but I've seen several polls/threads where the majority of people say they're happy to spend more for nice, healthy maricultured corals because they propose to care about depleting reefs, blah blah, etc. Here's a guy who does exactly that and people are always blasting him for it. To me, that seems hypocritical. It seems like it's a valuable service to the hobby to distribute some really nice corals and divert that money from wild collection and he should make money for doing it. It may be a hobby to most of us, but for him and other vendors, it's a business. Are some of the prices high? Sure. But as MANY have said: If it's worth it to you, pay for it. Many do (myself included). Just my 2 cents...

 

[shred5]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12597842#post12597842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
quite possibly but they have a whole collectors section where the sell the LE stuff at more the "market prices".. I dont see any hostility .. but as tempted as I get at some of these beautiful corals Id find it hard to pay 100.00 plus for a 1/4" frag...

check this out. I want a piece bad but 150.00 for 1/4" ?? cant do it..

http://www.pacificeastaquaculture.c...=/ShowProductCategory.aspx?CategoryId=83#T5-7

Reverse sunset/sunrise/forest fire monti can be had way cheaper than that... One place to watch is the foresale forums on this site. Another way is join a local reef club and trade. Allot of my corals are from friends either traded or free. Granted you may have to first buy a couple of choice corals to trade.

Dave

 

[neyugn0w01]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12599328#post12599328 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shred5
Reverse sunset/sunrise/forest fire monti can be had way cheaper than that... One place to watch is the foresale forums on this site. Another way is join a local reef club and trade. Allot of my corals are from friends either traded or free. Granted you may have to first buy a couple of choice corals to trade.

Dave

Reverse sunset/sunrise are the same corals. The Forest Fire is a completely different coral.

 

[shred5]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12599501#post12599501 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by neyugn0w01
Reverse sunset/sunrise are the same corals. The Forest Fire is a completely different coral.

It has been debated if they are different several times and as far as I know no conclusion has been made.

Dave

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12600329#post12600329 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shred5
It has been debated if they are different several times and as far as I know no conclusion has been made.

Dave

Grow them right next to each other and you will know that they are different

 

[02REDZ28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596086#post12596086 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gskidmor
I don't think naming them either is a bad thing - when someone says oregon tort or the 30,000 leagues lokani, most people interested in SPS know just what you're talking about and it's a lot easier than having to learn/figure out their scientific names.

Thats an ignorant theory... How is it any harder to learn the proper name instead of a trendy "common" name?

 

[flyyyguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12600684#post12600684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 02REDZ28
Thats an ignorant theory... How is it any harder to learn the proper name instead of a trendy "common" name?

ignorant theory??

ok. I have frags of 2 different types monitpora danae, both blue/purple with multicolors of polyps i want to trade you for something.

One is a wild colony I just picked up for dirt cheap and I dont know how well this specimen will hold its colors over time......the other is a many generations aquacultured that has proven it holds its brilliant colors under good conditions.

Trading amongst fgriends...one is worth much less in money or trading value, and one I dont even need to post a pic of. My good reputation and sayign the word is enough. Most people knopw exactly what I am talking about.

A danae by any other name is not necessarily, nor usually the same...even if the scientific name is

its how collectors distinguish amongst corals of the same species, and know exactly what it is we are adding to our tank



and your thepory as far as it being easy learning the scientific names.........really?? I disagree. many scientific names you do see labeledc are wrong, and poitive scientific ID is very difficult in most cases at best

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12600684#post12600684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 02REDZ28
Thats an ignorant theory... How is it any harder to learn the proper name instead of a trendy "common" name?

what about corals that have the same scientific name but they have different color?

 

[Justin74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596215#post12596215 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Semper Fi 1959
hey, i didnt mean to start a fight here...sounds like its getting hostile. lol the only reason i brought this thread up was BECAUSE i dont know about names. the only reason i say the stuff was 'tyree' was because that was what the named list stated when i got my shipment. they didnt name all 20, just some.

heres what they say i got, which in reality may not be true. but in MY mind, I got a nice 20 pack of sps frags for a pretty good price. tyree or not.

Tyree Ponape
Paletta Baby Blue
YR Vermiculata? (dont know what YR or Vermiculata means)
CA Tort
Surf and Turf
Tyree Baby Blue
YR Green Table
Bali Green Slimer
YR Blue Selago
Green Pavona
Orange Pavona
Tubs Neon Green Birdsnest
Tyree Birdsnest
C-Quarium (unknown)

again, im not big on naming, could care less. I care about $$...for $8.75 you could call it BOBS SPS and I'd buy it.

I'll take some pics of the frags I got and YOU tell me what i received. either way, im happy!

Having been a frequent flyer of this establishment I can assure you it is indeed a reality that you got what was listed and a steal of a price at that. Also I would like to make a friendly suggestion that it would be in your best interest to remember those names if you intend on expanding your collection. There's quite a few highly tradeable pieces in there and some of those 'names' will spur an interest in even the most miserly exotic collector..Which again is in your best interest!!

Vermiculata is a true scientific name rather than a fruity tooty name of an acropora specie that he's farming. HTH.

-Justin

 

[Justin74]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12600819#post12600819 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
what about corals that have the same scientific name but they have different color?

Nice try GSM

I have to agree with 02REDZ28, scientific would be soo much nicer. Not very challenging to describe a green with pink tip Acropora prostrata, or dark purple with bright green coralite Acropora formosa.. I would even respectfully cower down if they used the best of both worlds like Joey's radioactive A. yongei, or Bubbas bubbles E. aspera..etc...

-Justin