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nikecivic
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Don't think the process to filter the water has changed...could it be the water they are taking in from the ocean has been altered?
I am upgrading to a 125G tank and will be going to UCSB in the next couple of weekends so am wondering if the water conditions have been altered.
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Don't think the process to filter the water has changed...could it be the water they are taking in from the ocean has been altered?
I am upgrading to a 125G tank and will be going to UCSB in the next couple of weekends so am wondering if the water conditions have been altered.
Reefer Brian
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Myself and other local reefers have stopped using it due to its low quality. We just don't understand why the quality has gone down for us, while others say it fine. Can anyone relate to this?
JOSE CASAS
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Working backwards........tough choice.
Reefski's
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not really a tough choice for me, even with the 100 mile drive one way. i can get 1100 gallons, i can walk on the wonderful beach at UCSB, have lunch with a friend in Ventura. as long as i have my big truck i will keep going.
i look at it this way. i have mechanisms in place to export PO4, and i am working to improve those and make them even better right now.
if you do a 10% water change that makes your dilution 0.009ppm in your system from your water change. that is better than your system water.
you are not changing all the water in your system.
the flow through system at UCSB would/should have more issues from PO4 than we would.
i would look elsewhere as to why you are having problems.
Carl
i look at it this way. i have mechanisms in place to export PO4, and i am working to improve those and make them even better right now.
if you do a 10% water change that makes your dilution 0.009ppm in your system from your water change. that is better than your system water.
you are not changing all the water in your system.
the flow through system at UCSB would/should have more issues from PO4 than we would.
i would look elsewhere as to why you are having problems.
Carl
Reefer Brian
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Maybe the standard tests for aquarium caretakers isn't enough for knowing what is "wrong" with the water. I havent got a feces or crude oil test kit yet. I haven't figured it out and neither have my friends. There is always a cure for PO4, but why start with a high level of it from the get go. If it works for some, great. But not all things work as planned in this hobby. Until then I will not use it. Using my personal RODI unit and synthetic salt works best for me and my keeps my reef happy.
Reefski's
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you are the one that stated PO4 as the issue. that is what i addressed. of course there could be poop or oil that we don't' check for. if that is the case the whole marine science dept is at risk.
what kind of decline do you and your friends see happening to your reefs that you attribute to the water?
the PO4 issue is easy to fix, as is the low Ca and alk. the cost is only a fraction of RO/DI water and salt mix. i also run carbon and ozone on my system 24/7.
Carl
what kind of decline do you and your friends see happening to your reefs that you attribute to the water?
the PO4 issue is easy to fix, as is the low Ca and alk. the cost is only a fraction of RO/DI water and salt mix. i also run carbon and ozone on my system 24/7.
Carl
Ian
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This is only true if my tank water reads 0 po4. All I know is that my ca., alk, mg., etc are always on point. My po4 is always WAY too high. even if my po4 were at, say, 0.15 and I do a 50% water change... using make up water with a po4 reading of .09, that will bring my water to what, .12?? Thats just not good enough for me.
Now, if my po4 was at .15 and I did a 50% water change (I never would, its just an easy figure to work with) with make up water that reads .01... well, you know what Im saying...
All I know is that Im a 10 minute car ride from the tap. If I didnt think there was a problem with it, OF COURSE I'd continue to use it!! The fact is, besides the po4 issue, my growth and color should be great... I wish that was the case...
Ive been using that water for close to 2 years and Ive always had high po4. If the salt mix I just made lowers my po4, increases growth and improves color... the problem is obvious...
I guess we'll have to wait and see......................
Reefski's
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please do keep us posted. do you take pix of your tank?
my point is still valid that a normal % water change will lower your PO4.
eric Borneman in his book Aquarium Corals says that PO4 up to 0.3ppm is ok. i think others might say 0.2ppm
still less than 0.09.
anyway i will be anxiously awaiting your post in 3-4 months.
i am still not sure what kind of decline you are experiencing. brown corals, no growth, death? what?
Carl
my point is still valid that a normal % water change will lower your PO4.
eric Borneman in his book Aquarium Corals says that PO4 up to 0.3ppm is ok. i think others might say 0.2ppm
still less than 0.09.
anyway i will be anxiously awaiting your post in 3-4 months.
i am still not sure what kind of decline you are experiencing. brown corals, no growth, death? what?
Carl
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