Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

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bertoni said:
If the carbon input to the water column is constant, bacteria will reach a steady population, well, possible not very steady, but they won't grow in total mass on the average. Some bacteria die, some divide, but the final result is an approximate steady state.

If you could limit the free carbon input to the water column to zero, bacteria depending on that carbon would all die, but that can't be done in an aquarium.
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Thank you Jonathan, You clearly explained what i was trying to say! I knew that the bacteria would do no harm, IME At least.
Bill:hmm3:
 
I was able to talk to Jon today and I ordered a 25 ml container. I only have a 29 gallon Bio-Cube that is mostly SPS and acros, montis etc. I have a small reactor in one of the back chambers running rowa-phos in it now. So I'm anxious to see what kind of results I get on my small system!
 
bertoni said:
If the carbon input to the water column is constant, bacteria will reach a steady population, well, possible not very steady, but they won't grow in total mass on the average. Some bacteria die, some divide, but the final result is an approximate steady state.

If you could limit the free carbon input to the water column to zero, bacteria depending on that carbon would all die, but that can't be done in an aquarium.
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I agree and would add that if either inorganic carbon input ,nitrogen input or phosphorous input were zero the heterotrophic bacteria populations would wane. What happens to dead bacteria is unknown but it seems likely :some would be skimmed or removed by granulated activated carbon if in use ;some might be eaten by other organisms; some might be cannabalized as populations reduced ,and some would ultimately decay providing nutrients for other organisms including nuisance algae.
In any case they would stop taking up nutrients if one of the 3 they need were absent.As an example some report nitrogen difficiencies in tanks dosed with inorganic carbon, in which case the extra carbon may just build up.
 
Mo, I really dont. Just my observation reading ther threads. There have been people whos BP didnt work. I havent seen that with the WM. But alot more people have tried the BP. I posed the question to get other people obsevations.

Marty






Moser said:
I'm guessing that more people have used the biopellets than warner marine, therefore it follows that there would be more recorded failures..... I think it will be equivalent when the WM ones have been around long enough?!.

I don't think there can be that much difference between the various makes that failure rates will be varying significantly..... but who knows.


How did you work out which pellets work the quickest?....:spin2:




Mo
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I've been using the WM pellets for two months now. My TLF reactor is crawling with life. I think they are pods. I need to get some micro shots tonight with my camera, and post them here. Anyone else see this ?
 
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Most likely Pods, They spawn in all my reactors (Or just like the safety in there) Not a bad thing any way you look at it.
On a side not I'm a former Downey Resident of 20 odd years just off old river school rd, On Pomering rd. Kinda miss the weather but that's about all. No offense...
Bill
 
Pomering rd, over by the bowling alley. It's a small world indeed. I've lived here in Downey since High school. Went to school with one of the guys from Metallica.
 
i am trying bp pellets know and i just ordered some warner pellets so i can try them both but bp only been running for 2 days so nothing to report yet wish me luck with both thank s
 
Both?

Both?

thenewone said:
i am trying bp pellets know and i just ordered some warner pellets so i can try them both but bp only been running for 2 days so nothing to report yet wish me luck with both thank s
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If you do that how are you going to know which pellet is more effective??? Espically when there is such a price difference in the products. Personally i would want to know which one is working better and do them seperatly. JMO
Bill:)
 
Bill and this thread have convinced me to give this a try. Will try to order some today. Will add it to my existing Dual BRS reactor in place of the GFO. Sadly I just replaced the GFO ... on the plus side I am out of GFO and was about to order more.
 
Just got my 500 mL yesterday. Set up w/BRS reactor and a MJ1200. Seem to be tumbling nicely even though it is not necessary. I will take a few pics so I have a before. N&P both reading zero, but it's because I have a sump full of HA/Chaeto/Caulerpa that I harvest. I am pretty bad about updates, but I will try and post a couple before pics and maybe update every couple weeks or if something interesting happens.

Just to provide some background: I feed about a pea sized nugget of Rods every other day mixed with about the same amount of ESV spray dried phyto. On the odd days, I do Reef Chili with the ESV. I probably miss 2 days a week. I have 2 false percs, a pygmy angel, a rusty goby, some small hitcher blenny, and 3 chromis. Inverts: 1 Pep shrimp, 6 or 7 serpent stars, 3 large mexican turbos, 50-100 random snails, a wennerae mantis, 50 or so blue leg hermits, gorgs, nems, LPS, a few SPS, bunch of zoas/rics, sea apple.

I have had an ongoing (about a year) small HA problem in the DT and a major problem in the sump lol. I am sure it is because of the small particulate foods I feed, but I like all my filter feeders... I would love to get rid of the HA, but am concerned that it will also halt my macros in the sump, but that is not a bad trade-off. Anyway, look for a few pics later.
 
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If you find the thread of Instant Ocean version Randy says that Shapelock and Friendly Plastic can be used. From reading there is either a bunch of plastic with carbon that can be used or the patent does not hold up some how. You can actually find the plastic fairly cheap if you dig long enough.
 
Any suggestions on a good reactor for the WM EcoBAK pellets. My volume is 1L (200 gal). Thanks!

Should the media do a medium or light tumble in the reactor?
 
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bertoni said:
I agree that the PhosBan reactors aren't the highest quality reactors, but they do work. The newer ones with the screw-on top are a lot more convenient than the older ones. I don't think they hold 500 ml, though, more like 300-400, but you could check on that.
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Has anybody checked on this yet? I've been using my Phosban 150 (screw-on cap) for about 1-1/2 years with no problems, so this is what I would use. Just need to know if it will hold the needed 500 ml.

I'm going back and forth between this and starting vodka dosing. The GFO alone is starting to loose the battle, so I'm leaning towards one of these now. I can get the vodka fairly cheap and dose this to see if this does the trick. If it does, I assume that I can switch to the pellets. But if my reactor doesn't hold the needed 500 ml, then I may have to stay with vodka.
 
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