What have you done with your tank lately?
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Tradewinds
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I heard about people having a taste for skimmate, but never thought the stories were true. :eek2:
Mr D smack
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You've been around here long enough to to know that most stories around here are true :blown:
bradleym
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Got a calcium reactor for the tank. After much frustration, I think it I starting pay off. Chunked a couple colonies of monti cap and made some room as well as frags. And yesterday I bought myself a broken heart, on a 1 to 2 month time delay:
The odds of survival are basically zero, but I just can't help myself with certain animals, and these are definitely one of them. You should see the way it fans out to feed at night! I definitely need a better camera for night shots.
The odds of survival are basically zero, but I just can't help myself with certain animals, and these are definitely one of them. You should see the way it fans out to feed at night! I definitely need a better camera for night shots.
smoothdog
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I had a green one long ago when a LFS convinced me that they had kept several of them long term in tanks that were maintained by the store without any special care. BS. I hope it goes well for you Bradley, but my experience was arms falling off one by one starting after about a month. Took about 3 mo for it to slowly starve to death. This is one of those animals that shouldn't even be sold and makes the hobby look bad.
bradleym
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I am going to take some lessons learned from here:
http://www.reefsmagazine.com/forum/...journey-crinoid-keeping-michael-lukaczyn.html
So far I only have phyto and selcon, but I will be dropping by SS tomorrow for a couple other items. I did a 30g water change tonight, and plan to repeat this weekly to allow for a higher feeding frequency.
bradleym
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I had one just like this about 3 years ago. It took 2 months to figure out some things it would react to, and by then the water was too dirty, and there weren't enough arms left to sustain it. I don't expect this to go any better, but I can't help but try.
kegogut
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Ive recently gotten a new skimmer for the 60. a reef octopus xp1000. Its taking a bit to dial it in but its pulling so much gunk out of the tank already its amazing.
Also started the sulfur reactor on the 120 in an attempt to get the nitrates down. Had to redo the plumbing on it so that the gasses would work their way out of the effluent out instead of building up by the recirc pump. Hopefully it will fix my No3 problem. If it does I may put one on the 60.
Also started the sulfur reactor on the 120 in an attempt to get the nitrates down. Had to redo the plumbing on it so that the gasses would work their way out of the effluent out instead of building up by the recirc pump. Hopefully it will fix my No3 problem. If it does I may put one on the 60.
That is a shame that the LFS actually requested this animalReally just looking to make a buck<img src="http://www.reefcentral.com/images/chimp_shaking_head.gif"/>
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I've seen crinoids at a certain LFS on multiple occasions. I'm boycotting the place on principle. If an advanced customer has a tank setup for non-photosynthetics than special order them one. Keeping a creature you know your store's systems can't even support just because it looks cool and brings in customers is irresponsible.
Its one thing if you actually have a plan to keep the creature alive long-term or if you're an advanced hobbyist and have a realistic new method to experiment with. Attempting to spot feed a crinoid in a traditional reef tank has been tried thousands if not tens of thousands of times, it doesn't work. The hobbyist in the article you posted has a tank set up specifically for NPS and performs 25% WCs twice a week.
BTW, I've seen crinoids feeding at night in the wild. Its amazing but you would be very surprised to see the plankton density that supports them. Heavy would be an understatement.
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bradleym
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That is a shame that the LFS actually requested this animal
Wow... Sorry I mentioned it. I didn't realize trying a difficult specimen like this one would be so offensive. Thanks to all the well-wishers, and it won't come up again.
kegogut
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Dont listen to the haters Brad. I know you'll try to keep the animal alive as best you can. Good luck with it and I wanna hear how it turns out.
If noone tried the difficult animals then we wouldnt be able to keep 1/2 the animals we do. It would be awesome if you can keep it alive.
Again,good luck with it!
Brad, you can't expect to say something like this and think it won't get a rise out of folks on this board...
Almost everyone who's in this hobby has tried to keep something they weren't adequately prepared for. In the early days I unknowingly attempted to keep several different filter feeders: NPS gorgonians, sponges, those pretty flame scallops, etc. I killed them all, not to mention many other creatures during my 20+ year adventure in this hobby. We all kill stuff... and the wild caught stuff we don't kill is essentially dead from an ecological standpoint. However, I fundamentally cannot endorse the conscious needless killing of marine creatures. Not only is it irresponsible but it places a bad image on our hobby. If you know the result will likely be death but you decide to buy a creature anyway, IMO you're actions are on par with Chinese folks who keep those live turtle keychains. Do keep us posted though.
We'd also save the lives of about 99.99% of them as well. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I don't have any problem trying new things but repeating the same mistakes of others is just irresponsible.
bradleym
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Finally got my refugium cleaned and my calcium reactor working right at 2am. Rewarded for my efforts by a flood at 5am... I fixed the plumbing issues, but still don't know what tripped the GFI which is what started the flood. Taking some some time tonight to gut the whole stand and start fresh.
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