Why so many build threads in the SPS forum?
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If I am understanding you correct you feel that there should not be pictures of tanks that have any non-SPS corals in that thread? If that is the case then I believe you misunderstood the purpose of that thread. I believe it was intended for people to show all kinds of tanks that are focused on SPS corals as the OP of that thread posted:
"Please post pics of all your sps tanks, nanos, big tanks,T5, MH, Zoevit anything systems. No matter how young or old the system."
Don't believe me? Look at post #4 where the OP posts pictures of his tank, I certainly see LPS clams an softies in there too.
maybe i misunderstood the title of all SPS tanks meaning tanks with only SPS and he actually means all tanks with SPS in it, however the ammount of macro shots of non SPS is still non conforming to the forum.
IMO SPS forum = SPS macro only not LPS and zoas etc.
BTW that is not his tank
IMO SPS forum = SPS macro only not LPS and zoas etc.
BTW that is not his tank
cshutchinson
New member
I enjoy reading the SPS specific builds here, especially from the more experienced SPS reefers who have clearly demonstrated their excellent husbandry skills. However, some of the build threads just seem out of place and are a distraction IMHO.
MechEng99
aka Reef'd Up
Well, I was going to stay away from the fire, but it seems fairly respectful debating, so I'll chime in. Hope it stays that way. :beachbum:
I've never appreciated build threads in the SPS forum because I got sick of seeing, as someone previous said, a 2x4 stand with an empty tank...with big plans that never went through. Yes, there are a TON of nice build threads with beautiful colonies, but that's not my point.
I have, what I hope to one day be a beautiful mature SPS-dominant tank, but I never posted the build with the respect for the forum in mind. Instead, I posted targeted questions (flow, lighting, etc).
May I suggest the best of both worlds? There's a SPS-Identification subforum, so why not add a "SPS Tank Build" subforum? This will help people looking for good working ideas to go for inspiration...and also keep good information on corals (that may only get 10 posts versus 100 for a build thread) from getting buried. (Credit goes to igot2gats for the idea of a sticky...I think they should go to a subforum, but whatever).
Just my $0.02
Hugs, puppies, and rainbows (aka, let's continue to play nice)
I've never appreciated build threads in the SPS forum because I got sick of seeing, as someone previous said, a 2x4 stand with an empty tank...with big plans that never went through. Yes, there are a TON of nice build threads with beautiful colonies, but that's not my point.
I have, what I hope to one day be a beautiful mature SPS-dominant tank, but I never posted the build with the respect for the forum in mind. Instead, I posted targeted questions (flow, lighting, etc).
May I suggest the best of both worlds? There's a SPS-Identification subforum, so why not add a "SPS Tank Build" subforum? This will help people looking for good working ideas to go for inspiration...and also keep good information on corals (that may only get 10 posts versus 100 for a build thread) from getting buried. (Credit goes to igot2gats for the idea of a sticky...I think they should go to a subforum, but whatever).
Just my $0.02
Hugs, puppies, and rainbows (aka, let's continue to play nice)
James404
I <3 Acros
I agree with this, I think it would be a great idea to have a subforum for SPS tank builds.
CleveYank
20 Years and Over
Mixed around a bit.
But I notice I see more folks complaining about their SPS than they are posting about their newest build thread.
Why is my tri-color brown?
Why are my monty's white?
or Please Help Alk went down to 5 in a day, will my stuff die?
LOL
Of course I think that the threads that are about chemistry sensitive issues that are specific impactors on the success or failure of an SPS specific reef tank that get moved to the chemistry forum makes less sense than leaving SPS build threads here when the same argument can be made that they are in the wrong category and should be in the builds areas.
If it's SPS dominent I'd want the yahoos that have the SPS chops down cold checking it and making sure I didn't go down a bad path on the build. Rather than have it in the catch all build area where the other yahoos maybe only half even understand the finesse points involved for a succcessful SPS dominent setup. Not sure there is a reason to complain about SPS dominent builds in the SPS forum.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
That observation is fine. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion or an observation.
And I actually agree that I would prefer not to see build threads of how to build a stand etc and then 6 months later the tank is for sale...but I DO want to see quality build threads...there are a few of these quality threads floating around from the likes of Denadai, Rodrigo and a few others.
Well done to everyone for keeping this debate respectful. :love2:
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reefsahoy
I can see thru you!
i like build threads because you can learn from others mistakes/ideas or make adjustments for your particular applications. i've used bulid threads from other sps reef keepers that i consider successful or like their particular system/aquascape. i'm sure most if not all sps reef keepers, new or experienced, came here and learned from other build threads when they first started, or building a new aquarium. i can understand that when you get more experienced you realize that most setups are copies of others that have already been built but i do check out other build threads to see if there's a new cutting idea never seen before that i can use on my setup, however inventions/ideas don't occur everyday. jus my .02 cents
Rodrigo_BG
New member
The major reason I come to SPS Keepers forum is to follow those build threads that we have here like Reef in the Sky, Sunny and Roberto. Moreover I think every SPS lover like to follow a SPS tank build thread to learn and share with it. So I believe those sps tanks are being shown in the right place. :lol2: Also we don't have a medium size tanks subforum here on RC do we? Only Large or Nano. Where should go the 40's, 50's, 60's gallons tanks? Maybe it's time to create one.
igot2gats
Deeeetroit Basketball!
fcmatt
Member
I am going to change my opinion a bit.
I think the SPS forum area is totally cluttered with many things that are barely related
to a specific discussion about SPS. I no longer wish to wade through it anymore.
7 tank build threads.
7 sticky threads taking prime real estate at the top.
A couple off topic threads for this area: example is the PH meter post
A SPS ID thread in the wrong area... should be in the sub forum
I am now finding it annoying. Instead of starting a new thread I will simply bump this
one to add my two cents. I wish the moderators would clean things up.
I think the SPS forum area is totally cluttered with many things that are barely related
to a specific discussion about SPS. I no longer wish to wade through it anymore.
7 tank build threads.
7 sticky threads taking prime real estate at the top.
A couple off topic threads for this area: example is the PH meter post
A SPS ID thread in the wrong area... should be in the sub forum
I am now finding it annoying. Instead of starting a new thread I will simply bump this
one to add my two cents. I wish the moderators would clean things up.
I like build threads here, as long as they are build threads for SPS tanks. No offense to any other tank build, but an SPS tank often requires (or at least has) much more/ better equipment than your average tank. This equipment in my opinion differentiates SPS tank builds enough from others that it warrants their place here.
danil
New member
I love build threads! In the same time I think SPS forum its NOT the place for them! I wouldn't mine to have one sticky for it... but in reality forum is getting cluttered with them. I would love to follow all these build threads in appropriate section and get to SPS forum specifically to read topics related to SPS corals.
250G
New member
Interesting timing for this thread............my new system has had water for 2 weeks and I was going to start a new thread shortly while it cycles!!! Or not.........
I can honestly say I don't follow that many build threads, and I really only visit this forum here on RC. As noted, most who visit here are interested in all things SPS related, lighting, water chemistry, flow, lighting, system design, it's a pretty specialized area so entire systems may be of use to some.
I was thinking of documenting my new system as I will be incorporating some new technology, some old, having a smaller system (hopefully stable), and I may even go only frags, documenting/photographing growth and color over time...what works for me what does not...
I can honestly say I don't follow that many build threads, and I really only visit this forum here on RC. As noted, most who visit here are interested in all things SPS related, lighting, water chemistry, flow, lighting, system design, it's a pretty specialized area so entire systems may be of use to some.
I was thinking of documenting my new system as I will be incorporating some new technology, some old, having a smaller system (hopefully stable), and I may even go only frags, documenting/photographing growth and color over time...what works for me what does not...
I say go for it 250G. I am very interested in build threads myself and love reading sps build threads. I think coming to the sps forum is the best place to read these. If there is a build thread forum then guess you'd have to break it down to nano, large, medium, sps, lps, zoa, then you gotta get into the combinations of all these things? If you break things down into a million different forums becomes more annoying to wade through a mass of forums. I like the current setup. If I log into sps it's because I'm interested in all things sps related. Not just builds, identifications, etc. I for one would really enjoy your build thread 250g, if you put it here, or large area (if it's a large tank) or the discussion area. All these areas would be appropriate forums. Best of luck.
defchild84
New member
Interesting timing for this thread indeed.... almost exactly one year has elapsed, and I see this thread has resurrected :lmao:
I have read this thread, post by post, and I would have to agree with... EVERYBODY. I see the good, and the bad, thus leading me to an understanding of both. I believe EVERYBODY has a valid point here. In my opinion, I firmly believe that MY frustration does not stem from wading through " build threads" , but rather... "bad threads" in general. I think we are all capable of deciding which ones these are. I think we have ALL seen them, and others, that make us hit the "back" button quickly, and wish we could be compensated for our lost time. But not quality "build threads". No. I enjoy the experience, the excitement, and look forward to seeing, and building vicariously through quality build threads to share the excitement, and the dreams through the builder, of trial and error to soak in as much knowledge as I possibly can. I thought that this was the core belief in this forum, further backed by people of similar thoughts and obsession. I then have to conclude, that then all threads, be it "build threads" or simple "good" questions in relation or showing correlation to SPS for the love of these beautiful, delicious sticks, belong here. THIS amazing forum is where I come to learn, and soak in valuable information from veterans, to perhaps a relatively new hobbyist who has stumbled into a new finding which I would have never known. YES, there are bad threads. However, I find it difficult to pinpoint, or point the finger at those who share their quality story of trial and error, and their joy and obsession- but rather to those who do not make use of the "search" button and ask a question asked a day or two prior. Or those who do not properly research and expect answers handed to them. Why are my sps brown when I use tapwater, and what do you mean I have to check my alk. and calcium threads are the culprit of our lost time, and valuable forum space, in my opinion. NOT, the build threads expressing the individual masterpiece of their vision, sweat and labor,sharing new ideas and findings as we walk and learn with them in their journey.
Sigh..... sorry all, for my pointless rants n rambles. Cheers.
I have read this thread, post by post, and I would have to agree with... EVERYBODY. I see the good, and the bad, thus leading me to an understanding of both. I believe EVERYBODY has a valid point here. In my opinion, I firmly believe that MY frustration does not stem from wading through " build threads" , but rather... "bad threads" in general. I think we are all capable of deciding which ones these are. I think we have ALL seen them, and others, that make us hit the "back" button quickly, and wish we could be compensated for our lost time. But not quality "build threads". No. I enjoy the experience, the excitement, and look forward to seeing, and building vicariously through quality build threads to share the excitement, and the dreams through the builder, of trial and error to soak in as much knowledge as I possibly can. I thought that this was the core belief in this forum, further backed by people of similar thoughts and obsession. I then have to conclude, that then all threads, be it "build threads" or simple "good" questions in relation or showing correlation to SPS for the love of these beautiful, delicious sticks, belong here. THIS amazing forum is where I come to learn, and soak in valuable information from veterans, to perhaps a relatively new hobbyist who has stumbled into a new finding which I would have never known. YES, there are bad threads. However, I find it difficult to pinpoint, or point the finger at those who share their quality story of trial and error, and their joy and obsession- but rather to those who do not make use of the "search" button and ask a question asked a day or two prior. Or those who do not properly research and expect answers handed to them. Why are my sps brown when I use tapwater, and what do you mean I have to check my alk. and calcium threads are the culprit of our lost time, and valuable forum space, in my opinion. NOT, the build threads expressing the individual masterpiece of their vision, sweat and labor,sharing new ideas and findings as we walk and learn with them in their journey.
Sigh..... sorry all, for my pointless rants n rambles. Cheers.
MammothReefer
Active member
if it wasn't for the build threads this forum would be at snails pace.. sps forum has slowed down a fair bit lately.
allsps40
New member
Dude I totally 100% agree with you. My 75g build thread is in the sps forums, I have a few lps and softies but my tank and love for the hobby is geared to sps. Build threads are a great way to get ideas, ask questions and see ending results a year or 2 down the road as many people continue to update the thread after the build is done.
