125g AGA!!! YIPPEE Getting my PUFFER!

Marie

You might have to venture out of the NORA section of reef central to get some better advice (no offense to the members here)--- you can drill holes in the back for returns or just run it over the top... add spray bars, etc....

For the size or number of the holes, really depends on the flow you want to run.... for holes in the back--- I would make a glass or acrlylic overflow box attached to the back of the tank (inside)--- there is a size calculator based on the flow you want to run on the home page of the site--- rather then run it to the bottom of the tank you will enclose the bulkhead(s) and add a dorso inside the box to quiet it down---

I post a help in designing thread in the lighting filtration and other equipment section or in Do It yourself-- I'm sure someone has done this before and you can pick their brain....

I'd decide on the flow you want to run for now then when you decide, ask for help in designing .... I personally like low flow (quiet and less bubble issues)--- I run less then 200 GPH through my sump from my 135 gallon tank... 3-5x tank volume is fairly popular but I know of some people that run massive flow through their sump---

You might even want to drill a couple holes for a closed loop too....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6951789#post6951789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Spuds725
Marie

You might have to venture out of the NORA section of reef central to get some better advice (no offense to the members here)---
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I know that there are at least 3 of us that have successful hole drilling experience.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6949374#post6949374 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MBuck
Thanks for the info Bill....I'm not sure about being spereated at birth, very good possibilty...my family has joked for 33yrs that I was adopted!!:rolleyes:

My Dad introduces me as his daughter then informs the person that I was adopted, and not to hold that against me!!! What a BRAT!

I will definitley buy the top rim before I fill it....as this was the only concern I had when I bought it. It is an AGA brand.....how do the holes drilled in the back glass work? Do I use a 45/90 degree piece of PVC to go to the sump, with some flex hose attached, or am I missing the point of drilling the back of the tank? How do I create a return for it if I drill the back...Just don't grasp the concept of this way of drilling?

I do not want to set this tank up withoput some type of internal "overflow" ....I am liking my cube WAAAAYYYY to much this way!:D

Thanks for the help everyone!! I am so excited to get this going, but want it to be right....

Would it be feasible to put that base rock in a couple rubbermaid totes, with a few chunks of LR....will it help with my cycling once I add it to the tank? I am thinking tank full of water by the end of the month....fish after a few more weeks....if params are good....
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Is the back of your tank drilled already?:confused:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6949374#post6949374 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MBuck

Would it be feasible to put that base rock in a couple rubbermaid totes, with a few chunks of LR....will it help with my cycling once I add it to the tank? I am thinking tank full of water by the end of the month....fish after a few more weeks....if params are good....
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That would probably move everything along-- I don't think it would hurt--- just make sure you maintain temp and circulation-- top off for evaporation... etc...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6952421#post6952421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dubbin1
I know that there are at least 3 of us that have successful hole drilling experience.
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I don't think she wants help drilling-- she wants design help-- skimmer box, location, size, flow, etc...

I have a good idea of how I would do it, but since I've never done it I don't feel comfortable giving advice on doing it (I can live with my mistakes but not making a mistake with someone elses tank-- thats why my above advice was so vague).... but if one or more of you do have some advice... give it ;)

... but back to my previous post.. the desired flow is the starting point...

On a somewhat related point.... does anyone want to rent or loan me a hole saw for 1" bulkheads--- I need to build my Refugiums--- I might just dremel the holes otherwise..

I'm planning a 29 gallon below tank fuge and a 20 gallon above tank one
 
You might have to venture out of the NORA section of reef central to get some better advice (no offense to the members here)--- you can drill holes in the back for returns or just run it over the top... add spray bars, etc....
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No offense taken. The only things I will comment on is what I personally know. The Dremel method will not work on the 125, it will have to be a hole saw. I just ordered one from http://www.richontools.com/catalog/c20_p4.html , a 1 3/4" saw cost $6.20 shipped. I'll see what the quality is and maybe order more. I intend to use it with a Milwaukee cordless 1/2" drill so I feel a little safer with all the water lubricant. Beyond that I don't think anybody has ever said "don't go anywhere else or we'll be mad".... ok maybe there was a little offense taken in that respect, but I think that's the whole point of a site like this... look for the best info you can find then go it or not. I would rather have somebody go verify what I have to say than for them to have a problem and come back and call me a butthole for giving them bad info.

Tim
 
On a somewhat related point.... does anyone want to rent or loan me a hole saw for 1" bulkheads--- I need to build my Refugiums--- I might just dremel the holes otherwise..
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Bill, Unless you have a different Dremel bit than the ones I used, I personally think you're better off ordering a hole saw.... hole quality will be better and the site I posted above won't break the budget. I think you need the 1 3/4" saw for 1" bulkheads....
Tim
 
thanks.. didn't realize they were that cheap... cheaper then diamond dremel bits I've seen.
 
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My point exactly. For 6 bucks it's worth a try. I spent the same for the Dremel bits I was using.:cool:
 
You hit the nail on the head Bill, maybe wqe really were seperated at birth!!:D

Give me your design idea, anybody...I will think it through, and decide what I think will work for me. Then it will be my mistake and no one elses!!

Pictures are good, or even a rough sketch... I am really after something simple.....I'm a helluva DIY girl, but I am no plumber!!!

Can't belive my cube doesn't leak!!! ( knocking on wood)


Thanks again everyone for your help...I brought all the rock home tonight, I think there's got to be well over 200lbs, will check it on the scale...gonna do some dry aquascaping!!

Tank will be home tomorrow, we had a broken brake rotor on my friends dually, so tank, and truck are at my brothers house!!

Gotta be up at 7:30, so will not be here long!!
 
Ok this is pretty rough and not to scale...

I personally would run dual overflows at either end of the tank-- I would design it so either overflow could handle ALL the flow incase one gets clogged with a snail or something.

The top image is a top view, the right is a side view, the middle is a front view-- the bottom is a close up side view showing the Durso and how it works--- the top of the tee has a cap with a hole or some other way to restrict/adjust air flow-- needed to quiet it down.

Each overflow would be a glass or acrylic box with 3 sides and a bottom an attached to the back of the tank... each would have a single drilled hole for a bulkhead and a Dorso set up like shown below-- once again.. I've never done this but have considered it (planned it in my head)... maybe my next one.

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The size of everything (box, piping, etc) depends on the desired flow.

HTH.. please get some feedback on this before you go this way--- I'll be mailing you a liability release agreement ;)

I kind of like something like this for a return

http://www.aquaria.info/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=48570

but it doesn't have to be too fancy
 
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Well thats how I was planning on doing mine. I'm still trying to decide on how big the overlfow boxes need to be.
 
I believe that is the lip length (skimming lip) of your box... so a 2" x 10" box (3 sided) should accomplish 14" (or 3" x 8" or 4" x 6")
 
What kind of flow do I need in a this tank? I am planning on FOWLR, and a few predators, wouldn't think I would need ALOT, would I?

Give me a number....

It will contain, starting out:

3-5" Lionfish
3-5" Dog faced Puffer
Smaal spotted snake eel, ( I'm going to take Dubbins:))
Possibly a foxface or large tang...
 
I'm a fan of low flow--- so I'm kind of prejudiced... advantage of low flow would be quieter, less microbubble problems, less power to run... I run under 200 GPH on my 135...

Advantage of higher flow would be helping to export nutrients for you... more "poop" will stay in your water collumn rather then settle in your substrate... if you include a filter sock in the sump loop you can export some that way (I just added a filter sock in my setup to help me export some that way)-- the puffer will eat your clean up crew (someone correct me if I'm wrong)-- so you might want to take this in consideration... 1000 GPH maybe.. alot probably depends on how big a sump you want to run... can't run a huge amount of flow though a small sump.

//edit// nice ... good find.

http://www.filterbag.com/items/PONG100P4P.html

these are the bags I bought-- got 10 for about $30 shipped
 
You're right Puffer will eat the cleanup crew, therefore, when I buy one, it will be to my benefit til they're gone, and will help keep his little teeth from growing too long!!:D

I punched up 200g flow on the calculator and the over flow box is going to be incredibly small that way....

I could use a larger box, and a smaller pipe for reduction, yes? Or a valve to control the flow?

I am thinking 2- 2" holes for overflow, and 2- 3/4" holes for returns....does this sound good?
 
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