27 clowns in the same tank 27 months~Thread of the Month

Just sat here and read this thread from page one. Very awesome read, I appreciate you posting not only the successful pretty pics and stories, but also the challenges you faced. Nice to read a bit about what went wrong, especially as someone new to the hobby, only reading the success stories makes it a lot harder when things go wrong.

I do have a question I don't believe I've seen asked before. The original clowns were all from the same clutch, and they bred. I haven't read much on fish breeding, but wouldn't breeding fish that are basically brother/sister cause potential genetic issues?
 
Just sat here and read this thread from page one. Very awesome read, I appreciate you posting not only the successful pretty pics and stories, but also the challenges you faced. Nice to read a bit about what went wrong, especially as someone new to the hobby, only reading the success stories makes it a lot harder when things go wrong.

I do have a question I don't believe I've seen asked before. The original clowns were all from the same clutch, and they bred. I haven't read much on fish breeding, but wouldn't breeding fish that are basically brother/sister cause potential genetic issues?

That is correct sir. Ten points for you! Some others here will chime in about how you won't see genetic deformities for 7-8 generations, etc., but no one can say with a straight face that even one instance of inbreeding is not, at least incrementally, bad for the gene pool.
 
I do have a few clowns with incomplete gill plate coverings. I don't know if I have more than usual though, and they would normally be culled before selling.
 
I found this by accident, and am glad I did. Congrats! I'm doing the same with a 100g and 20+ Bali aquarich clownfish thats going on 3 months...
 
haha! Yes, I caught it right as you see it in the picture. I was going to keep it as a pet in another tank, but it was already dead or died of shock when I grabbed it.


Was it dead or just the empty shell from a mold?

That is correct sir. Ten points for you! Some others here will chime in about how you won't see genetic deformities for 7-8 generations, etc., but no one can say with a straight face that even one instance of inbreeding is not, at least incrementally, bad for the gene pool.
The issue is that you usually don't have the lineage of tankbred clowns. They may have been inbred for quite some generation by the time you get them.
 
Fresh empty crab shells will look like a dead crab. Often you can only tell the difference if you look inside to see whether it's empty or contains meat.
 
Smell it. Did it smell foul?
We did not smell it. I hate dead things. It did look like a whole crab.... We left it on the counter in a small tank and it didn't move for many hours, so it was disposed of. It did have some weight, but it was hard to tell as I was using the super long heavy grabbers. The anemone with all the missing tentacles looks slightly better. Definitely not worse.

Now every time we look in the tank, we're peering around for a hiding crab.
 
After reading this entire thread I fell very inspired now. Thanks Mona for all of the updates over the years. I have been thinking about a big 150+ gallon tank sometime in the future and my wife has always wanted more then 2 clownfish in the tank so this gives me a bunch of great ideas. Thank you
 
After reading this entire thread I fell very inspired now. Thanks Mona for all of the updates over the years. I have been thinking about a big 150+ gallon tank sometime in the future and my wife has always wanted more then 2 clownfish in the tank so this gives me a bunch of great ideas. Thank you

Thanks, Be sure to check out the videos by Bulk Reef Supply on their "harem" tank. They did a great job of summarizing best practices for multiple clowns in the same tank.
https://youtu.be/gs1s-9JoVhY
 
Hello there! I haven't posted in over a year now. Just wanted to say thanks for not giving up on this thread or your tank. I am looking to start this in the next year and am impressed that more than one person has tried this with success now. Any chance we can get another tank shot? Those are always my favorite. What type of lights are you using now? I saw you switched some stuff over to LEDs and I was wondering how that worked/turned out for you?
 
Hello there! I haven't posted in over a year now. Just wanted to say thanks for not giving up on this thread or your tank. I am looking to start this in the next year and am impressed that more than one person has tried this with success now. Any chance we can get another tank shot? Those are always my favorite. What type of lights are you using now? I saw you switched some stuff over to LEDs and I was wondering how that worked/turned out for you?


Thank you for your kind words. I switched back to the three 400 watt metal halides. XM 20K. No VHO but a little blue from the Kessil 360W. Not very satisfied with running only LED's The tank was cleaner with less/no nuisance algaes but the corals did not do as well with colors being less vibrant. My anemones are looking better with the crab out of the tank and switching back to the halides:
 
Been reading this on and off for the last couple of days, excellent pictures and videos.
Thank you for sharing :D
 
Just wanted to say thanks for not giving up on this thread or your tank. I am looking to start this in the next year and am impressed that more than one person has tried this with success now.

??? I think you may have been confused about something? Keeping dozens of juvenile clowns (particularly tank-raised) in a large tank is not unusual - you can go to any public aquarium in the world and see the same thing. I can show you photos from the wild of fields of BTA's with tons of clowns in them.

I wouldn't try the same thing with adult pairs in a smaller tank...

I think that is where people run into trouble. They introduce three or four clowns into a small tank with a single anemone - and wonder why two end up getting killed. 30 tank-raised juveniles in a tank at the same time? No problem. In fact, the MORE you add - the less chance for trouble. Confusion through profusion.
 
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??? I think you may have been confused about something? Keeping dozens of juvenile clowns (particularly tank-raised) in a large tank is not unusual - you can go to any public aquarium in the world and see the same thing. I can show you photos from the wild of fields of BTA's with tons of clowns in them.

I wouldn't try the same thing with adult pairs in a smaller tank...

I think that is where people run into trouble. They introduce three or four clowns into a small tank with a single anemone - and wonder why two end up getting killed. 30 tank-raised juveniles in a tank at the same time? No problem. In fact, the MORE you add - the less chance for trouble. Confusion through profusion.

great info! thanks.. do you know if this is true for other types clowns? (not maroons).

Clowns are so beautiful and easy to care for... I might just sell all my fish and get a tank full of clowns someday
 
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