29g setup

That would be fabulous cherubfish pair :)

I'm guess that it eats film algae. It is still residing on the back glass which does have a light film over it. The algea film is not noticable unless I'm right up at the tank looking for it. If that's what it eats, I'll let it grow....unless it gets out of control then I'll clean a little at a time.

I can't wait to see what your book says Cherub :)
 
Korrine said:
That would be fabulous cherubfish pair :)

I can't wait to see what your book says Cherub :)
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It doesn't say anything in particular about Fromia monilis (which I believe is what yours is), but in general for the group Asteriods:

"Fodder for hungery starfish commonly includes: algae, mulm (organic film and bacteria slime), sponges, coral tissue, mollusks, bryozoans, tunicates (ascidians/sea squirts), plankton (for filter-feeders), other echinoderms, and other various micro-organisms. Please know that most seastars will ultimately starve in aquariums, however slow it might be, if they are not deliberately fed.

Seastars can often be trained to migrate daily to a feeding spot if the aquarists is diligent and timely in feeding schedule."

Hope This Helps (HTH) ;)
 
Thanks for the info :) Maybe I'll try a sheet of nori and see if it seems to take it? It has moved some but is still on the back wall. I just watch and let it be. For the most part, I'm a hands off person :)

On another note, my firefish ate yesterday when I fed the tank!!!
 
Thanks. I already have 2 :)

I'm planning on moving this tank in the next month or so and will employ an overflow box and add a sump (probably a 10g) underneath. The sump is mostly to hide my heater and help me eliminate bubbles made by my skimmer as well as pull proteins off the water's surface for the skimmer to process. I'm looking extensively at Live Reef due to recommendations from my thread:

When I move my undrilled 29g I want to add a sump. I'm thinking of an overflow box to accomplish this. Which model/brand would you use? Why?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16484273#post16484273
 
ahh I still have hair algea(you can see it on page 8 in the photos of my new inhabitants). Can't kick it and it's driving me nuts. I know my water is good since I'm using my own now and I only feed maybe 4 x a week. Keeping up on my 4g water changes and I can't beat it.
I'm thinking of employing a yellow eye kole tang to help. I can move it to my 75g after it's set up for awhile.
ps. Firefish looking good and eating well..pellets too. Starfish is looking well and still climbing on the back glass.
 
Korrine said:
ahh I still have hair algea(you can see it on page 8 in the photos of my new inhabitants). Can't kick it and it's driving me nuts. I know my water is good since I'm using my own now and I only feed maybe 4 x a week. Keeping up on my 4g water changes and I can't beat it.
I'm thinking of employing a yellow eye kole tang to help. I can move it to my 75g after it's set up for awhile.
ps. Firefish looking good and eating well..pellets too. Starfish is looking well and still climbing on the back glass.
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A Kole tang in a 29 gallon tank is not a good idea in my opinion. I would recommend trying a Lettuce Sea Slug (Nudibranch). They aren't very expensive and have done well for me over the years in keeping hair algae in check.
 
Chuck,

From bluezoo
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD height=20>Other Common Names</TD></TR><TR><TD>Lettuce Nudibranch, Green Lettuce Nudibranch </TD></TR><TR><TD height=10></TD></TR><TR><TD height=20>Description</TD></TR><TR><TD>Often noted as an algae eater, this animal is often purchased and added to the home aquarium to control nuisance hair algae. The Lettuce Slug doesn’t eat hair algae, however, they eat bryopsis. Bryopsis is a noxious weed that can take over a large aquarium in a very short time choking out corals. Few fish will eat it and even fewer invertebrates will eat it.
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Now I'll look and be sure it's HA and not bryopsis.

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Can I make a big suggestion Stop adding anything. If you haven't noticed your trend yet I'm surprised. Spend money things die spend money things die so on and so forth. Stop adding ANYTHING LIVING until your tank balances. Money can buy lots of equipment and lights and fish but it cannot buy time and patience. Your tank is on a roller coaster of destruction and until you hit the brakes it will continue. I can't believe no one else has not said this yet but please stop. You don't need any fish or other living object to throw in your tank because you have hair algae. First check your mag levels, Hair algae is commonly a problem in tanks with high or low Magnesium levels, this is the same with the red algae you had problems with before. Look into the chemistry forum for how to maintain algae threw proper chemical care, as well as the 48 Blackout method. Also you need to not add any fish or anything new until the disease has a chance to die out. Also it is unknown what the starfish eats, but it is suggested they only get added to large tanks because in nano's they tend to starve to death. I don't mean to sound harsh or anything, but this is a common mistake and one I've made myself. Take a break from adding anything new, and try these steps for the algea and other problems
1. Look into the magnesium, calcium, and alk levels and read in the chemistry forums how to use these to rid bad algea.
2. Put something over your tank, and go pitch black for 48 hours straight once every 3 months.
3. Adjust the height of your MH and the photo period you expose your tank for.

By balancing these things you will start to see great results for your tank. Also in a 29 Gallon Wrasses are going to die because of lack of swimming room. Gobies are a good idea, but similar one's can fight, and the bleeny will attack fish similar in shape such as your gobbies so be careful with that. for 29 Gallons 4 fish is a good amount especially with the amount of rock and corals you'll have. With our nano tanks proper selection of fish and corals is the most important aspect of responsible reef-keeping.
 
ok you're right, I do need a mag test. I do have all the other basics, except mag. Everything is always fine except ph is usually a tad low(even Randy Holmes Farley says 7.8-7.9 is fine as long as it's consistent). I use Reef Crystals salt mix and out of mixing box levels are on the low end mixing at 1.025 or 1.026 using a refractometer. I do plan on dosing my water change water and when I do a wc it'll add this stuff in. Over a period of time it will balance itself out. I've already read Randy Holmes Farley in Reefkeeping Chemistry and also his links in his articles that take you to Advanced Aquarius. I've been thinking about a mag test kit for awhile, but I can't buy Salifert here. I don't want to pay shipping for one item. I just started considering getting some dosing things to adjust as needed once I have the mag test kit. So as $$ allows (I'm going to court over my oldest son battling visitation so he doesn't get beat up by his aggressive mentally deranged brother every other weekend..oh yea and that's $250 hr.)


Maybe I haven't mentioned it in this thread, but my wrasse(which is recommended for a bigger tank) is going into my 75 Aggressive Reef.

And I already read about the starfish thoroughly(from one of my Saltwater Bibles), I know it could die. I don't clean the back of the tank anymore because it seems to be eating off it. I'm letting that be.

Dude you sounded like an all out attack.







Anyway more photos (since what thread is good w/out photos).

Here's my star

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A hermit

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And my wrasse (notice the darn snail in the skimmer out put instead of working on the rocks :spin2:)

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For the star:

Orange Marble Starfish (Fromia monilis): boldly appealing and amongst the most appropriate species for marine aquarium systems that lack big predators such as Triggerfishes and large crustaceans.
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-Wetwebmedia.com

That's why I chose this over the poor linkia's that are usually doomed from the beginning and need gigantic tanks :)
 
Sorry it wasn't an attack, I missed that you had a 75 that the fish was transferring to, I guess I'm old school were you wait for everything to balance out for months and then you start adding fish and corals. It's also hard to remind ourselves to stop if we have a problem because the hobby is so enjoyable it's sad when we have to wait to add in the things we love. Sometimes it's nice to have a accidentally stern sounding :spin1: person to remind us that taking a step back and taking a breather ultimately will give us the greatests tanks keep up the good work though.


p.s. I'm jealous of your goby shrimp by the way :lol2:
 
nice thread!!! love the tank. I agree 250 mh XM 20k is the best.( without actinic ) I have a very similar tank about 4 mo. old. and cant wait to see what happens. what type of fish is your new one? cheers
 

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tprize,
I added my yasha's w/the pistol a month after I started my tank(added in April). I didn't add any other fish for a long while after that. June 25th and it was picasso clownfish any my zoa's.. I added my first coral at the tail end of June (almost 4 months after it started). Clown goby and cleaner shrimp July 1st (impulse purchase b/c it was free shipping). Potter's angel in September (6 months after the tank started) and these are to keep to begin with. It succumbed to crypt :( My melanurus wrasse was added to DT in November. November (8 months after tank start up) I added my 5 peppermint shrimp and my first lps...candy cane :) My arabian in January. I killed that myself. I didn't realize it would eat my shrimps. I caught it and put in a bucket w/rock, sw and powerhead. Powerhead was to strong for the amount of water, I'm sure. It was stuck to it the next morning. End of January I added my fire fish, starfish, turbo snail, yellow rose goby, cerith snails. That's it. I certainly have not rushed it. As far as water quality, it can't be that bad b/c my SPS still seems to be thriving. They are the hardest corals more sensitive to things that aren't right and will brown out, loose color or RTN. I have a green slimer and a blue tort. The next time I order dry goods a mag test will be coming in that order.



Sazama,
You sure have a lot in there for it being 4 months old :) I don't have that much coral n stuff and mine is 12 months old next month. It looks great, though!!

My new fish is a goby Stonogobiops nematodes(Yellow Rose Goby ). Haven't seen him since I added him, but my rocks are full of holes for him to hide in. I hope my emerald crab didn't eat him.
 
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