Bubble blaster vs Askoll pumps?

If I mesh it would it be an excess? like something unnecessary which would translate on having to lower the pipe because of the extra boost, and afer all I would get the same skimmate as unmeshed? or I would get better results?
 
the mesh will give you more air draw-in = more bubble = better skimmate but its more work to mesh every time the mesh warn out.
 
Mesh increased my bb3000 from 30-35 to about 50scfh. I have been running it without the mesh lately b/c I think it is too much for the 200 body.
 
Because mesh is more unreliable, when the mesh starts to break down you lose your foam head lowers a bit and you lose the skimmate consistancy, pin wheels are like they said, set it and forget it, they do not break down over time and just WORK. And with the higher end pumps designed to draw massive air #'s with the pinwheels, there is no real reason to mesh them.
 
Because mesh is more unreliable, when the mesh starts to break down you lose your foam head lowers a bit and you lose the skimmate consistancy, pin wheels are like they said, set it and forget it, they do not break down over time and just WORK. And with the higher end pumps designed to draw massive air #'s with the pinwheels, there is no real reason to mesh them.

Exactly. Mesh is used as a crutch to get a pump to perform better. Most companies are "wanting" to get away from it from all the hassle of non starting pumps and the realiabilty issues they have to deal with helping customers make their skimmer work. There are some pinwheel/mesh combo's out there, but the mesh will still break down in time.
 
Well, you got me wondering. So when I cleaned the cup tonight I slipped the pump off the skimmer. Had to break out the big meter though.



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That is crazy. I get 70-80 from my 250A hooked to the skimmer how could there be that big of a diff?? I am going to disconnect it and see.

Ok, disconnected on of them and it is hitting 90ish. Connected back to the skimmer it is 80 - 82 sitting in 7 inches of water.
 
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That is crazy. I get 70-80 from my 250A hooked to the skimmer how could there be that big of a diff?? I am going to disconnect it and see.

Ok, disconnected on of them and it is hitting 90ish. Connected back to the skimmer it is 80 - 82 sitting in 7 inches of water.



Try moving your sump level to 8.5 inches.
 
vs 100 - 110 from the BB HY 5000 that we've seen in the videos?, do we have a winner yet?.

BTW, the alpha cone 250 replica will be ready in aprox 10 days.
 
vs 100 - 110 from the BB HY 5000 that we've seen in the videos?, do we have a winner yet?.

BTW, the alpha cone 250 replica will be ready in aprox 10 days.

Plancton, I think it will be a while, if ever, before we can declare a "winner". The askoll is tried and true and has been around far toooooo long, and the bb pumps are still VERY new. I barely have any rust on my bb3000 screws LOL

So far I would say they are both great, but I would have to give the edge to the Askoll based on experience and lack of problems. I would also conclude that the longer the BB's are running without issues, the closer the two pumps become.
 
Hopefully on topic here.
Which Askoll works the best running the factory pin wheel on a Octox 200. Does it need special fittings to attach it to the skimmer.
 
ok, for the last coupe of weeks i have been using just the bb3000 with mesh mod. overall i have grown to like it much more. the no start up problem, less noise, and it seem to make more bubbles know. water line is just under the blend of the msx200 and iam getting about 1in+ of dark skimmate a day in the cup.

scfh has not change only at 40-45scfh
 
ok, for the last coupe of weeks i have been using just the bb3000 with mesh mod. overall i have grown to like it much more. the no start up problem, less noise, and it seem to make more bubbles know. water line is just under the blend of the msx200 and iam getting about 1in+ of dark skimmate a day in the cup.

scfh has not change only at 40-45scfh

Are you saying that you are getting the same scfh stock and with the mesh mod?
 
tagging along...can't wait.....i am excited to see the results.

The SRO skimmers and these pumps seem awesome for the $$$!
 
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