Bubble king 400 ext. VS Deltec AP 1004

[hahnmeister]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9297531#post9297531 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by REEFER714
H&S did not built that skimmer body. My friend Loc01 did it for me. he also mod his 1262 with messwheel and it work very well.

Hey... wanna make/get another meshwheel for an eheim 1262? Ive been looking into using that thing for something new since I took it offline a few months ago.

 

[Jar*Head]

Why don't you send your pump my way and i will do the mod for you. Will send it back with the Light rail cool?

Did you just compare my BK to a pinto?

 

[Jar*Head]

Honestly, i was going to sell my BK and use the money to buy 3-4 BM 250 and line it up inside of my 80g sump, i know for sure it will out performed my BK400 anyday

 

[hahnmeister]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9298932#post9298932 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by REEFER714
Why don't you send your pump my way and i will do the mod for you. Will send it back with the Light rail cool?

Did you just compare my BK to a pinto?

Lol. Do you have pics of how its made or anything? If anything, I can just order the impeller and have it sent to you for modding.

Lol... BK=pinto... no Seaclowns are pintos... or more like Chevy Vegas. The BK is the more refined Porche one of the two, the BM is the Dodge Viper (better analogy than a camaro because it represents little refinement and control but rather excessive horsepower to overcome lagging performance in other categories).

 

[Jar*Head]

I'll get you some pic. We just finish modified the 1260 messwheel into ER 8-3. If you ask Stryker_587 he is the owner of that skimmer.

 

[mavgi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9299084#post9299084 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by REEFER714
I'll get you some pic. We just finish modified the 1260 messwheel into ER 8-3. If you ask Stryker_587 he is the owner of that skimmer.

we make the mod LOC01 ?

did someone measure after the mod the pump watt ?

did you know how much air the pump pull after the mod ?

i like to see it to .

 

[Jar*Head]

Yes, Loc01 did the mod. I provide the equipment. He doesn't have the meter to measure killowat. But he did test the air intake. 1260 on meshwheel getting around 15-16 LPM

 

[mavgi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9299254#post9299254 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by REEFER714
Yes, Loc01 did the mod. I provide the equipment. He doesn't have the meter to measure killowat. But he did test the air intake. 1260 on meshwheel getting around 15-16 LPM

the pump pull 15-16 LPM it's not big different but as i know the foam should be better , tell to LOC to measure the watt very important . send to him my best regards

hahnmeister

in 2 month we will see the external BM .

Oliver online in the reefgeek forum ......... you can see again the new post and understand why i am say all the time that this company always perform better and quick then other one

 

[Jar*Head]

mavgi, I will past the word to Loc.

 

[hahnmeister]

15-16lpm? Nice. 32some scfh. That would be a good match for my new tank.

REEFER714, got my Gualala from FedEx today... wow... how did you ever give this thing up? Its perfect? Just what I needed. Pretty compact too.

 

[TandN]

no i dont have room in my sump 4 both but BUT i can replace my bk for it for a couple of months so that theres enough time to tweak it right and let it run. my waterlevel in my sump is 9" which is recommended for my bk whats urs @?

 

[mavgi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9299746#post9299746 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tanya72806
no i dont have room in my sump 4 both but BUT i can replace my bk for it for a couple of months so that theres enough time to tweak it right and let it run. my waterlevel in my sump is 9" which is recommended for my bk whats urs @?

the water level is not the problem (we can handle this) the main things is that i want both to skim together and then we can see what skimmer perform better this way we get real compare between those 2 skimmer.

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9299688#post9299688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hahnmeister
15-16lpm? Nice. 32some scfh. That would be a good match for my new tank.

REEFER714, got my Gualala from FedEx today... wow... how did you ever give this thing up? Its perfect? Just what I needed. Pretty compact too.

I'm into something else totally different than the Gualala . Your is going back and forth, mine going in the circle. I like the Gualala too but it doesn't work well for my tank. I may go back to it later after i upgrade to 6x3x2.

 

[TandN]

I dont think that would work properly since one would get more nutrients before the other one would. having one run then the other using the same regimine I believe would give a better proceptive JMHO

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9300194#post9300194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tanya72806
I dont think that would work properly since one would get more nutrients before the other one would. having one run then the other using the same regimine I believe would give a better proceptive JMHO

I totally agree with Tanya. I used to run 2 ER 6-2+ in my sump and one will pull more than the other. even though i have them side by side.

The best way to do is have 1 run for a week and take picture of the skimmate also with the amount of skimmate being collected for the week. then run the other for a week also take picture. Post it up on here and we as reefer will do the judgement.

Or find a tank big enough to fit two skimmer inside, add some old water from the tank along with skimmate, have it mix for 24 then place the two skimmer inside and turn it on at the same time.

Honestly, what are you guy trying to prove? I don't care if someone say their ER or seaclone better than my BK. It is all personal reference.

 

[Vollekanne]

@Hahnmeister

FWIW, Klaus told me that ATI stole the design in a way from F-M. The designer, who contacted Klaus in the process for approval and such on the F-M designs, was not involved with the ATIs. I forget the exact details...

I follow your posts very interested, because you are a person, that spend a lot of time to understand how the technique works.
On the other hand you should know, that there are different parties in Germany, that fight each other. If I read your statement about the history of ATI, I know which party gave you the informations.
I would be better to hear both sides of the story and you will wonder, what is going on behind the scenes.
Don`t get me wrong, I don`t want to offend you, but you appear as an instrument of one party. I believe, that you don`t even know it.
It`s not good because I like your way to talk (post) about technical things

Regards

Vollekanne

btw. Yes, I belong to the other party! That`s why I know what I`m talking about.

 

[TandN]

Im not tring to prove anythin but he mentioned he wanted to knowand if I say no looks like im trying to hide something to be honest

 

[Jar*Head]

I know what you mean.

 

[mavgi]

REEFER714 & tanya72806:

i didn't said that someone try to hide something and maybe it's misunderstanding . i suggest to this compare to get real result
i believe the BM250 perform better then BK250 maybe i am wrong but just when we put both for test we can be sure about that.

IMO the best way is to put both skimmer in big sump and let them run and not as you said.

hahnmeister :
it's ok you can call to the BM250 dodge , camro or even scooter

but meantime i didn't saw any skimmer in this size and price that can perform like this skimmer .

 

[hahnmeister]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9300286#post9300286 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vollekanne
@Hahnmeister



I follow your posts very interested, because you are a person, that spend a lot of time to understand how the technique works.
On the other hand you should know, that there are different parties in Germany, that fight each other. If I read your statement about the history of ATI, I know which party gave you the informations.
I would be better to hear both sides of the story and you will wonder, what is going on behind the scenes.
Don`t get me wrong, I don`t want to offend you, but you appear as an instrument of one party. I believe, that you don`t even know it.
It`s not good because I like your way to talk (post) about technical things

Regards

Vollekanne

btw. Yes, I belong to the other party! That`s why I know what I`m talking about.

The things that Klaus told me were fact, not just heresay of conjecture. Bankrupt is bankrupt... no 2 ways to look at that. I dont want to get into it here though, as I truly believe that if what is said is the case, then Oliver has that much more motivation to be that much better than the rest. There is nothing wrong with failure. If anything, the performance of ATI's more recent products is proof of that. Those ATI powermodules and bulbs make a few other's jealous, Im sure.

Its funny how its a taboo thing to do here at RC, but in other forums where ATI and Royal are both sponsors, the Germans seem to encourage the the open rivalry. And, FWIW, I know that for Oliver and Klaus to duke it out here (not that they would really want to, but if they did) would require them to both speak much better English.