Can birdsnest/millipora get red bugs?

[msuzuki126]

I have an acro in my system that clearly has red bugs. The only other two frags are a birdsnest, and milli. When I treat with interceptor, should I only treat the acro, or should I treat all the birdsnest and milli frags? I don't want to cause the others stress if it isn't necessary.

Thanks,
Matt

 

[newnano]

they are said to not like those but i had a buddy find some on a milli of his recently

 

[atzak]

I've seen milli's covered in red bugs, the birdnest should be fine, but you might as well treat the whole tank, unless you want to see the bugs again soon

 

[nine9d]

I agree. Treat everything while your at it.

 

[twon8]

a mille is an acro

 

[msuzuki126]

Yep, saw red bugs on the mille. I'm not treating the whole tank, I only have three SPS frags. Once I get some interceptor I'll treat the milli and acro in another small tank.

 

[gasman059]

ACROPORA MILLIPORA

 

[twon8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9309063#post9309063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gasman059
ACROPORA MILLIPORA

it's actually Acropora millepora

 

[newnano]

the problem is taking those corals out doesnt guarantee that all the bugs or eggs are on those corals. i would dose the whole tank. what do you have in there as far as inverts? if you follow the prescribed amount of interceptor shrimps could make it. crabs will bite the dust. i even had a few amphipods make it. red bug free though

 

[jay24k]

I would take em out if you can. You just need to keep them out for their known lifecycle. And I honestly can't remember how long. If you don't have crabs, fine dose the tank, but I wouldn't unless you need to. I knew of some people who had red bugs that I got corals from. I had a bad feeling it was going to creep up in my tank so I dosed my whole tank twice with a whole pill each time. I noticed both times algae creeped up for about 2 weeks. Also, even though everyone says it is reef safe, I had fish die both times. I did all the directions exactly too.

 

[msuzuki126]

Well when I get my hands on the interceptor, I'm NOT using it on the whole tank. I think that would be a waste because I only have a couple frags that I could simply treat in another QT for the time being. I realised milleporas were acros, but I just never heard of anyone having red bugs on their milles.

 

[arconom]

I also have to agree. Why risk it?







nine9d-I wonder why J is risking it?

 

[twon8]

ive used it in tank a few times with no ill effects, but if you only have two acro frags, by all means yank them out and qt them for the 5 days needed.

 

[twon8]

also, i have seen red bugs on mille's, but i had it out of the tank at the time otherwise i wouldn't have seen them

 

[newnano]

jay if you dosed a 180 gallon tank with a whole pill you didnt follow the directions at all. so i dont doubt you had issues.

i am just of the belief that if the bugs are in the tank there is no way they are all on the acros and no where else. if you brought them in on one frag and now other frags have them. how did they get there? i believe taking care of the whole tank at once and then qt'ing everything from that point will severly limit your chances of getting them again. thats just me.

 

[twon8]

i used more than half a pill in a 90 with success

the original poster only has two acros in the tank, so it is perfect for a qt treatment.

 

[msuzuki126]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9311679#post9311679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
i used more than half a pill in a 90 with success

the original poster only has two acros in the tank, so it is perfect for a qt treatment.

Thank you. That's what I was trying to get through.

 

[jay24k]

It has been shown no negative effects of up to 4X dosing. Considering my tank volume is over 220 gallons, one pill is not even 2X dose.

 

[twon8]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9311744#post9311744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by msuzuki126
Thank you. That's what I was trying to get through.

according to borneman red bugs cannot survive for more than 5 days without an acro host .

so here is a suggestion: just dose the interceptor in a bucket with a powerhead and the two frags for six hours, then watch for more red bugs over the next few days. if you see more, then think about setting up a qt or just treat again in a bucket. and keep repeating.

I'd be interested to see some results if you did it this way.

i figure even if a few rb's are remaining in the tank during initial treatment they will likely be few, and return to the acros within a few days.
then treating again will kill any of those. this would not allow time for them to reproduce in any measurable way.

imo interceptor has no negative effect on Acropora sp., so treating a few days in a row should have no ill effects.

 

[Satori]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9309421#post9309421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jay24k
Also, even though everyone says it is reef safe, I had fish die both times.

We have about the same system - 180 gallons, 220 total system gallons. I dosed 1 pill this past weekend, and I lost my almost 2 year old powder blue tang last night. I'm thinking the interceptor was the issue.