Martini5788
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That was my plan, to get all my fish as small as I can. I really really like the idea of a harem of flame Angels.
Clownfish pair for semi aggressive fowlr recommend
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That was my plan, to get all my fish as small as I can. I really really like the idea of a harem of flame Angels.
Aggressive in marine fish usually relates to tank size and level of crowding. I keep damsels, which don't grow large, but which take a lot of room. With enough room, and with 'spire' type rock structures to claim, they don't bother their tankmates, just squabble and flash among themselves. Is a lionfish aggressive, when he swallows a tankmate? No---just hungry. If you have fighting as opposed to eating each other, frequently the problem is just plain 'room' and 'territory.' In a 210, you should be able to keep quite a few fish territorially happy unless you go for super-large fish.
Dkuhlmann
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I think it is just diet and water condition. You are really doing well if you can keep Orchid Dottyback and Royal Gramma coloration the same as newly catch ones. I use mixture of food, both multiple flakes foods and multiple frozen food. Essentially everything I can get my little hands on. I often fish them fresh fish roe also. We eat a lot of seafood. My family know that any roe we get, the fish tank gets it.
Ah now I understand, you're talking when first caught I've only seen a few that were probably that nice in my 55 years of life. But I think I know what you mean.
Martini5788
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Does anyone have a picture of the coloration that you are talking about?
ThRoewer
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My fridmani purpled up a lot since I got them. Originally they had a much lighter purple, but now they have a very deep purple that is kind of iridescent when you look at them from the top (or the direction the light comes from).
It is really hard to capture that on camera.
My grammas also have very vibrant colors - you see it best when the sun shines into the tank in the evening.
As for the angels:
The only indicators of angel males reverting back to females were observed on Genicanthus angels and were to my knowledge only based on coloration which may be misleading.
I know that most other angels undergo significant physiological changes when turning male, including body shape: the males of many species stretch significantly and especially with regals the opercular spine more than doubles in length. Those changes are most likely irreversible, especially on fully grown adults. So I don't think that once male they can go back to female.
The easiest way to get pairs is to start with small juveniles. Ideally they should all differ a little in size so that the hacking order is clear from the start.
It is really hard to capture that on camera.
My grammas also have very vibrant colors - you see it best when the sun shines into the tank in the evening.
As for the angels:
The only indicators of angel males reverting back to females were observed on Genicanthus angels and were to my knowledge only based on coloration which may be misleading.
I know that most other angels undergo significant physiological changes when turning male, including body shape: the males of many species stretch significantly and especially with regals the opercular spine more than doubles in length. Those changes are most likely irreversible, especially on fully grown adults. So I don't think that once male they can go back to female.
The easiest way to get pairs is to start with small juveniles. Ideally they should all differ a little in size so that the hacking order is clear from the start.
Martini5788
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Everything that I have read about flame Angels says to absolutely not keep them together. I will do some research on it. Back to the clowns, I really really like the black clarkiis. Where do people usually order specialty clarkiis online?
Martini5788
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ThRoewer
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Don't believe what you read in outdated books or websites about pairing up reef fish.
You can keep all and every angel as a pair or in harems groups.
I've paired all kinds of dwarf angels and also a couple of large. It isn't really difficult.
I just put two small marine bettas together in a 10 gallon tank and they are doing fine. In time they will become a pair.
You can easily do the same with angels.
OrionN
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If you want two then get two. You can add more females later or add them all at once. The 4 I have in my tank I added one at a time
Martini5788
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Wonderful info in this thread! Thanks so much guys!
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