Daniel's RSM 250 SPS tank
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DiscusHeckel
Acropora Gardener
Daniel,
Thanks for the explanation. I have now a clear idea about the circumstances that affected your corals. I have never used a probiotic salt, but bacteria will quickly multiply if you do not use a fresh salt mix quickly.
I hope your corals will pick up quickly from this point onwards. Bacteria based methodologies can be unforgiven at times, especially they depend on efficient skimming to remove excess bacteria. In this contact, power outage cannot have helped.
Thanks for the explanation. I have now a clear idea about the circumstances that affected your corals. I have never used a probiotic salt, but bacteria will quickly multiply if you do not use a fresh salt mix quickly.
I hope your corals will pick up quickly from this point onwards. Bacteria based methodologies can be unforgiven at times, especially they depend on efficient skimming to remove excess bacteria. In this contact, power outage cannot have helped.
nemodan
New member
Some numbers:
Salinity 1026
Alk ~ 8 dkh ( I like to measure always at around 9-10 pm) now is early
Ca 450 ppm
PO4 0.09 ppm. ......HIGH !!!
NO3 10 ppm. ........TOO HIGH! !!!
This week I will feed every other day and will see what happens with that PO4 and NO3 .
That's all folks! !
Daniel
Salinity 1026
Alk ~ 8 dkh ( I like to measure always at around 9-10 pm) now is early
Ca 450 ppm
PO4 0.09 ppm. ......HIGH !!!
NO3 10 ppm. ........TOO HIGH! !!!
This week I will feed every other day and will see what happens with that PO4 and NO3 .
That's all folks! !
Daniel
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
So sorry. The tank was stunning with really good acro colouration. It's really sad to see this happening. I hope things get better. I had a similar "crash" a couple of years ago. The only way I saved some of my corals was to put them in a friends system (after dipping and confirming no pests etc) and restart. Hopefully it wont be anything like. that...I was losing SPS/LPS etc. So my situation was worse.
Keep things stable and rinse frozen foods before feeding where possible and keep up the water changes. Good luck.
Keep things stable and rinse frozen foods before feeding where possible and keep up the water changes. Good luck.
DiscusHeckel
Acropora Gardener
Why does Daniel need to do that? If it is due PO4, rinsing will have very minimal impact, if at all. Mathematics of it was justified by RHF a while ago on this forum.
sahin
Ultimate Reefer
Recommended by Mike Palleta. I'm aware of the RHF article but I guess when trying to keep PO4 low, and without having to revert to using GFO, depending on how much frozen foods one feeds and the amount of PO4 in the food it could have an impact. I guess my idea behind it is that when a tank is in decline, running chemical filtration doesnt always help the situation...I try and rely on water changes a lot more, but keeping the fish well fed helps.
nemodan
New member
Thanks guys for such nice discussions.
A year ago , when I have a real crash due to high nutrients I started the fuge and Matrix. I feed every other day until all started to work and P / N went to acceptable levels.
Colors started to pop, the system was in equilibrium, I got more fish, feed more and all was doing well. Until I broke that equilibrium with my salt change plus my bad luck...BLA bla. As I posted a couple of posts behind.
I belive that having now less corals, and the ones alive, that are not growing a lot (some yes, others not at all), I started acumulating P & N . At least the not used portion related to the corals.
I belive the fuge still does his job. Macros grow like weeds. About Matrix , I am not sure how I can validate if they have or not reduced their bacteria population. But I started last week seeding again Probidio. As I did a year ago.
So, my strategy, for this week, will be to repeat what I did after my previous crash...... reduce the feeding.
This week I will not be traveling, so I will have an oportunity to measure P and N frequently and see what happens with my feed,reduction.
Thank you for comments........ what do you think about my rationale ?
Best
Daniek
A year ago , when I have a real crash due to high nutrients I started the fuge and Matrix. I feed every other day until all started to work and P / N went to acceptable levels.
Colors started to pop, the system was in equilibrium, I got more fish, feed more and all was doing well. Until I broke that equilibrium with my salt change plus my bad luck...BLA bla. As I posted a couple of posts behind.
I belive that having now less corals, and the ones alive, that are not growing a lot (some yes, others not at all), I started acumulating P & N . At least the not used portion related to the corals.
I belive the fuge still does his job. Macros grow like weeds. About Matrix , I am not sure how I can validate if they have or not reduced their bacteria population. But I started last week seeding again Probidio. As I did a year ago.
So, my strategy, for this week, will be to repeat what I did after my previous crash...... reduce the feeding.
This week I will not be traveling, so I will have an oportunity to measure P and N frequently and see what happens with my feed,reduction.
Thank you for comments........ what do you think about my rationale ?
Best
Daniek
nemodan
New member
Rational sounds ok, but I don't like reduced feeding for the fishes. Maybe reduce daily feeding but don't skip days? Regardless, good luck!
We need pictures of the test acro.
Tomorrow. I wanted to give some "recovery time" after the dipping.
Give me a week as I did before (feeding other day) and let me see if there is any change.
Today I didn't feed. Tomorrow afternoon I will report here the P and N levels. Let's see if there is any change.
Best
Daniel
Daniel
I've just read thru this whole thread and I am amazed at your coral whisperer skills.
I had a chalice collection that was high end and things were going great. Then a new salt came out called bio-actif. I used it and I lost every single coral. It crashed my nutrient levels because I didn't understand what was going on. My N and P went to zero.
I say go back to doing what you did when your tank was in perfect condition and DONT CHANGE ANYTHING.
You have proved you can run an awesome tank. It's when you tried to change that salt that issues started. I did the same thing. Never again.
Ur tank is very inspirational and I thank you for showing us all how you do it. I've learned a ton from this thread..... Respect.
I've just read thru this whole thread and I am amazed at your coral whisperer skills.
I had a chalice collection that was high end and things were going great. Then a new salt came out called bio-actif. I used it and I lost every single coral. It crashed my nutrient levels because I didn't understand what was going on. My N and P went to zero.
I say go back to doing what you did when your tank was in perfect condition and DONT CHANGE ANYTHING.
You have proved you can run an awesome tank. It's when you tried to change that salt that issues started. I did the same thing. Never again.
Ur tank is very inspirational and I thank you for showing us all how you do it. I've learned a ton from this thread..... Respect.
