Difficult and Special Care Species List
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Peter Eichler
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Happy you found the info useful!
Peter Eichler
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Good to hear, the list is working as intended and hopefully this silly little list will help save hundreds or even thousands of fish in the long term. But,if it just saves a few it's still worth it
flamehawkfish
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hello
I think this is a great list, and agree with almost everything on it.
However, if you're going to put hawkfish on there (for being jumpers), it makes sense to include jawfish- especially blue-spot jawfish. IMO, Blue-spot jawfish are best left in the ocean, as they seem to always succumb to some kind of bacterial infection in aquaria.
Take care,
Flamehawk
I think this is a great list, and agree with almost everything on it.
However, if you're going to put hawkfish on there (for being jumpers), it makes sense to include jawfish- especially blue-spot jawfish. IMO, Blue-spot jawfish are best left in the ocean, as they seem to always succumb to some kind of bacterial infection in aquaria.
Take care,
Flamehawk
cortez marine
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Bluespot jawfish already have long records in captivity. Its just that many of them come from Northern Baja where they are collected and handled with little respect.
The long bag storage time, the bag rub on the tail and often the lips, the use of the wrong fishhook size, the failure to tamp down the barbs and cut off one of the trebles.....
All are reasons the fish may come in bad.
Baja South is a different culture of collectors and handlers.
In Indonesia and he Philippines, we have these kinds of issues X 300 species from 40 different collecting areas.!
The long bag storage time, the bag rub on the tail and often the lips, the use of the wrong fishhook size, the failure to tamp down the barbs and cut off one of the trebles.....
All are reasons the fish may come in bad.
Baja South is a different culture of collectors and handlers.
In Indonesia and he Philippines, we have these kinds of issues X 300 species from 40 different collecting areas.!
flamehawkfish
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Maybe so, but if you're going to warn reefers about hawkfish being jumpers, you have to put blue-spots on the list. I mean, it seems like every winter (when blue-spots become more available on the market), some unsuspecting reefer buys one, posts on Reefcentral, and two days later, mourns their loss b/c it went carpet-surfing...
cortez marine
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So there are people who buy fish without reading up on them. How do you warn people who dont read?
The jumpers are not a secret list!
Do hobbyists have to be specially warned about lionfish spines?
Sea apple poison? Carpet anemones sting?
There are special warnings. They are called media...Mags, books, web sites, google etc. etc.
The jumpers are not a secret list!
Do hobbyists have to be specially warned about lionfish spines?
Sea apple poison? Carpet anemones sting?
There are special warnings. They are called media...Mags, books, web sites, google etc. etc.
flamehawkfish
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Isn't that the point of this thread- to warn people about fish/critters that might present problems?
Peter Eichler
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Peter Eichler
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Thanks for the kind words! The list has been around in one form or another since the early Aqualink days.
Aquarist007
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What came first--this list or PaulB:lol::lol:
Threelittlefish
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I don't know what butterfly fish are doing on that list. I'm not denying that there are some difficult butterflies to keep, but I had 2 Double Saddle Butterflies and a Threadfin and they were some of the hardiest fish I have ever had. They ate everything I offered them with a passion from frozen shrimp, squid, and flake to Nori.
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Peter Eichler
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Happy to hear it helped you out!
Peter Eichler
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Butterfly fish as a group probably have more unsuitable and nearly impossible to keep fish than any other group of fish in the hobby... In fact it's mentioned as a group simply because listing all the unsuitable and difficult fish within Chaetodon and Chelmon would have made the list far longer than it already is.
andycrash77
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Thankyou Peter and others (humor and knowledge) for putting all the time into this thread. It is because of generous people like you that I believe all the difficult fish will one day be easier.
I notice that there are not a lot of people posting from Europe and the list might be viewed differently here. Perhaps being closer to the Indian Ocean helps.
I am certainly not an expert but my Anampses, Golden Angel and Cleaner Wrasse are all fat and growing well. Although live rock has killed my bank balance (It's brutal here. I'm SOO envious). My LFS is pretty good and said that its one supplier has good Cleaners and the others do not, possibly pointing to collection-shipping issues as stated above.
Education, study and a positive attitude are keys.
Thankyou again for your time,
andy
I notice that there are not a lot of people posting from Europe and the list might be viewed differently here. Perhaps being closer to the Indian Ocean helps.
I am certainly not an expert but my Anampses, Golden Angel and Cleaner Wrasse are all fat and growing well. Although live rock has killed my bank balance (It's brutal here. I'm SOO envious). My LFS is pretty good and said that its one supplier has good Cleaners and the others do not, possibly pointing to collection-shipping issues as stated above.
Education, study and a positive attitude are keys.
Thankyou again for your time,
andy
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